Sip Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Love is something that can't be controlled, it just happens. Again, I disagree. It has to be something you are open to and looking for (in the context of a long term relationship). If you want to talk about lust and attraction, sure those you can't control... not even I can control those urges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Moving along - my take on this is that women sometimes b*tch too much about men dumping them. O.K., there are *sshole guys, but please, what's with the trend of generalisation???! That all men are pigs means that your sons will be pigs too. So think about it. Okay, I agree on this... Some women b*tch about men dumping them. They need to move on with their lives, and stay strong. But that doesn't mean all women are guilty. Just like not all men are pigs, but most are . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 (edited) Okay, I agree on this... Some women b*tch about men dumping them. They need to move on with their lives, and stay strong. But that doesn't mean all women are guilty. Just like not all men are pigs, but most are . O.K, so you're saying that MOST men are pigs, but only SOME women are b*tchy (about men dumping them)? What if I said it was the other way around? Edited February 14, 2004 by den_wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Again, I disagree. It has to be something you are open to and looking for (in the context of a long term relationship). If you want to talk about lust and attraction, sure those you can't control... not even I can control those urges. And again, I disagree with you. Lust and attraction is the core base for a long term relationship. You can't have a long term relationship without that. What would you do if your feeling got stronger for the girl, would you just dump her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 O.K, so you're saying that MOST men are pigs, but only SOME women are b*tchy (about men dumping them)? What if I said it was the other way around? Come on wolf, please stop nit picking. We both agree on this, and you know this as well as I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 And again, I disagree with you. Lust and attraction is the core base for a long term relationship. You can't have a long term relationship without that. I don't understand what you are disagreeing with there as I totally agree with you on that.    What would you do if your feeling got stronger for the girl, would you just dump her? My feelings won't get stronger if I am not looking for anything more ... if I am not open to pursuing a long term relationship. The feelings get stronger through the process of getting closer to that person ... as part of opening up ... as part of the relationship itself. All I am saying is that it just doesn't happen over night and it doesn't happen by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Come on wolf, please stop nit picking. We both agree on this, and you know this as well as I. What.. now I'm nit picking??? there is a huge difference between SOME and MOST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 My feelings won't get stronger if I am not looking for anything more ... if I am not open to pursuing a long term relationship. The feelings get stronger through the process of getting closer to that person ... as part of opening up ... as part of the relationship itself. All I am saying is that it just doesn't happen over night and it doesn't happen by itself. I agree, a long term relationship isn't developed over night. Yes, the feelings does get stronger over time. But love isn't something you could control, far from it. Unless you dump the girl once you start develping this feelings, which is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 What.. now I'm nit picking??? there is a huge difference between SOME and MOST. Okay, MOST men are pigs... and MOST women are b*tchy and complain when it comes to guys dumping them. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Okay, MOST men are pigs... and MOST women are b*tchy and complain when it comes to guys dumping them. Better? Why not the complete opposite of what was initially said? My point being, women are biased against men when they are hurt. And while in that position or situation, refrain from making generalisations, because there's nothing worse than being considered an idiot for making such statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 And while in that position or situation, refrain from making generalisations, because there's nothing worse than being considered an idiot for making such statements. my take on this is that women sometimes b*tch too much about men dumping them. You just said, "women" b*tch about men duping them and not some women. So are you calling yourself an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I don't think they're "clueless" Thoth jan. It's just they haven't found the right girl yet. I guaranty both Domino and Sip will change the're minds once they find that special individual. So what happens - they find the "right" girl - what then? She'll want notning to dow ith them - guarenteed..I mean talk of falling in laps & such - it just doesnt happen that way...they will be all ga ga perhaps and she'll say "later" as they havent learned the first thing about treating a lady right...thats my take on it anyway...could be wrong - sure - but I'd be willing to lay odds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 "Relationships" are entirely overrated. It's too much like a chore. 4 syllables of something I don't want and by the time I say it, I'm already breaking sweat. I have a relationship with my co-worker, with my co-students, with my boss, with a friend, not with someone I'm supposed to love. "Relationship" these days has come to mean something like a chore. Relationships are annoying, plainly put. The saying that "nothing is free" is quite true. Relationships cost more than the house you will buy or the girl you will get drunk for a one night stand. Time, money, nerves, effort, must all be shoved into one person. For what? If the person is your true love, then it is all worth it. True enough. But half of these people that have "relationship problems" blaming the other sex, actually haven't figured themselves out. Whatever happened to my "Friends with privelages" thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Well, first off, I said, Some women b*tch about men dumping them. And well, some women do. In fact, most women do, but in order that I wouldn't generalise it and be too harsh on the women who were exceptions, I said "some". It is reality, not generalisation. I have not seen a woman who has not played the part of the victim when the relationship has been broken off, instead of acting maturely, they act childishly, whining and b*tching, like it's the guys' fault all the time. Most of them happen to be feminists, too. And I am beginning to be convinced that this is not a coincidence. A lot of men are dumped by women, and I have NEVER EVER seen a man b*tch about it and claim that all women are b*tches. That is what I have a problem with. Perhaps I did not make myself clear enough in the previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 "Relationships" are entirely overrated. It's too much like a chore. 4 syllables of something I don't want and by the time I say it, I'm already breaking sweat. I have a relationship with my co-worker, with my co-students, with my boss, with a friend, not with someone I'm supposed to love. "Relationship" these days has come to mean something like a chore. Relationships are annoying, plainly put. The saying that "nothing is free" is quite true. Relationships cost more than the house you will buy or the girl you will get drunk for a one night stand. Time, money, nerves, effort, must all be shoved into one person. For what? If the person is your true love, then it is all worth it. True enough. But half of these people that have "relationship problems" blaming the other sex, actually haven't figured themselves out. Whatever happened to my "Friends with privelages" thread? Well girls....isn't he just someone to love eh? most sad...(and again clueless..what can i say...i know that i over use it...but it rings so true...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Well girls....isn't he just someone to love eh? most sad...(and again clueless..what can i say...i know that i over use it...but it rings so true...) Oh no, the feminist man wants to make a comment about a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 (edited) Oh no, the feminist man wants to make a comment about a man. Don't pretend to talk about something you know nothing about - being a real man. Edited February 14, 2004 by THOTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Don't pretend to talk about something you know nothing about - being a real man. I'm not pretending. As a failure in being a man, you're a success. Once again you had to drag this thread off topic by your snubs at me. You just can't stomach my presence can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Moving along - my take on this is that women sometimes b*tch too much about men dumping them. Nope, I dont see some on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den_wolf Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Nope, I dont see some on there. Mmhmmm... dear me.. I am talking about context, not semantics. My context was clear, that some women b*tched too much about it. That I repeated it more than once is a good explanation as to why I forgot to put it in.  THOTH, you're very annoying, trust me. Heck, I can even prove it. Mmmm.. Stop pretending to be a wise*ss.  Let's see, shall we: you two are equally clueless about love and relationships but yeah - your all (basically) wrong most sad...(and again clueless..what can i say  Keep it up, buddy! You're one step away from winning the god of wisdom award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I'm not pretending. As a failure in being a man, you're a success. Once again you had to drag this thread off topic by your snubs at me. You just can't stomach my presence can you? I admit - I find your presence on this board highly annoying. And that you would claim that I post useless garbage on various threads or am the one going at you (thats a laugh)...seems to me the last few days you haven't been able to kkep from taking swipes at me - and I have deliberatly not done so regarding yourself. So be it. Yes - your a rodent - or generally just a pest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Yes den what can I say...I find yoru persepctive on things to be very boringly narrow. yoru quite a one trick pony...but stray form your amusing and clever little "proofs" and its clear the very many areas in which you are lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I admit - I find your presence on this board highly annoying. And that you would claim that I post useless garbage on various threads or am the one going at you (thats a laugh)...seems to me the last few days you haven't been able to kkep from taking swipes at me - and I have deliberatly not done so regarding yourself. So be it. Yes - your a rodent - or generally just a pest... What are you talking about? It's been you all this time that has responded to me, and follows me in my threads and takes snubs at me because you just admitted you find my presence annoying. We can go back to any of my threads and read the content and see who made the insults first and who took the thread off topic first. It has been you the whole time. You are acting like a woman. Stop bitching. It's not becoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Come on wolf, please stop nit picking. We both agree on this, and you know this as well as I. I agree, stop picking phrases where u can tell us not to generalise! We will speak in general terms often, and most of the time it is understood who the issue is with. And if need clarification, we have mostly been good at stating that also.. But you go into every thread and keep repeating for us not to generalis, if we were in some room perpetually debating onf phylisophical issues, then we can cut the generalizations and accuse of generalising. But, please u say it everywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Why not the complete opposite of what was initially said? My point being, women are biased against men when they are hurt. And while in that position or situation, refrain from making generalisations, because there's nothing worse than being considered an idiot for making such statements. Den, is it not enough for you to contradict yourself all over the place, now you have to call people idiots.. **yeah we know you didnt "direct" it, but im not stupid, nor are the people u are calling idiots** i suggest you take a few years off of philosophy, and stop making yourself smarter than you r! And, dont call anyone an idiot.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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