THOTH Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I find it fnny that it is the chauvanist who are crying the blues and calling for equal time/consideration etc ...and funny that its likely these very same guys are without a vclue how to properly trat alady...come on now...embarrasing I should think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Hey, just ask each other to be Valetines already......'oh anoush this, kurik jan that...' shes been my valentine since i met her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Awww, khandoom em....... I got my valantine already, glad to see you got yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLOWJAMZ22 Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 WELL I DONT TTTTTTTTTTTTT :fyou: :fyou: :fyou: :fyou: :fyou: :fyou: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 St. Valentine Armenian Style http://www.armenianow.com/2004/february06/features/salt/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLOWJAMZ22 Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 St. Valentine Armenian Style http://www.armenianow.com/2004/february06/features/salt/ i mma try that i want a man now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 From the Institute for War and Peace - ARMENIA: CHURCH ATTACKS "PSEUDO-RELIGIOUS" FESTIVALS Young Armenians are mixing up pagan, Christian and Western love festivals - and the church is not impressed. By Karine Ter-Saakian in Yerevan Jumping over fires, eating salty cakes and sending cards with hearts on them: young Armenian sweethearts are likely to be doing all of these things over the coming days. With three festivals falling within a few days of each other, including the increasingly popular international lovers' date St Valentine's Day, Armenians themselves often mix up old and new customs. To some, this is all part of the country opening up to the outside world; others, especially the church, strongly disapprove. On February 13, fires are lit all over Armenia for pairs of sweethearts and newly married couples to jump over. This original way of celebrating the Candlemas Day in Armenia is over 1700 years old and many people confuse it with St Sargis' Day, commemorating a fourth century martyr and supposed patron of love, a few days earlier. And since the rest of the world celebrates February 14 as St Valentine's Day, Armenia follows suit. "I really love Valentine's Day and always get presents," said Lusine, 20. "And if we don't know what holiday the Armenian [Apostolic] Church is observing on this day, then it is the Church's fault." The Armenian Apostolic Church takes a far from indulgent view of this, seeing it as a sign that Armenians are turning away from religion. "We have an extremely negative attitude towards all these pseudo-religious holidays that came to Armenia from the West," said Father Vahram Melikian press secretary for the Armenian church. "They bring nothing but harm." Fr Vahram said the Armenian church - traditionally said to have been founded in 301 AD - had always been with its people and helped them preserve their identity. He said that priests do take part in many popular rituals that are obviously pre-Christian and pagan, such as animal sacrifices, jumping over a fire on Candlemas Day and blessing the vine grapes on the Day of Blessed Virgin. "But St Valentine's Day should not be observed in Armenia - we have enough of our own holidays that are much more ancient than this obscure story of some lover," said Fr Vahram. St Sargis' Day is always celebrated on the first Friday of February. He was an early Christian warrior who was martyred on January 31, 363. Armenian folk tradition had it that he had abducted his beloved and then married her, making him a patron saint for lovers. On the Friday before St Sargis' Day, young people traditionally eat salty biscuits before going to bed, and whomever they see in their dream bringing them water will marry them. They can also put a plate with flour in it in front of their house, and if in the morning they can find a horseshoe print on a plate that means that St Sargis came over and gave his blessing. The commercial importance of the week between St Sargis' and St Valentine's Day is assured. This week is already seeing a lively trade in the shops for small souvenirs, "Sargis" and Valentine cards and cosmetics. "From February 7 to February 15, we sell more of everything - from expensive cosmetics to postcards," said a shop assistant in Hayastan, one of the largest shops in Yerevan. "Sometimes we even have to close shop later than usual. This year we've had a lot of corporate orders - when large companies and banks purchased gifts for all their staff." The day also gets a large share of weddings and engagement ceremonies because, according to the Armenian church calendar, a week after the Candlemas Day comes the Shrovetide, and then the beginning of Lent. "They say if you get married on February 13 or 14, the marriage will be a happy one," said a young Yerevan resident, Artur. "And you can't get married during Lent as the Church forbids it. Although I doubt that my parents were unhappy - no one observed any church canons during the Soviet times at all, and everything was fine." "Last year, at night I made a horseshoe print by the door of the girl I love, and then she kept telling everyone that she was visited by the saint," said Samvel. "And only then she agreed to go out with me. I did tell her the truth later, though. So all these days are just a tribute to conventions and traditions. I personally don't care whether it's Sargis or Valentine, as long as my beloved is with me." The dispute between church and young people exposes some contradictions about what young Armenians think about their traditions. Although Armenia prides itself on being the "oldest Christian nation in the world", church attendance is relatively low and knowledge of church practices and teachings is patchy after years of communist rule. Most Armenians now go to church for baptisms and weddings, and they appear to be doing so more for the sake of tradition than out of faith. Few couples, as prescribed, come to the altar after a week of fasting and prayer. The Church now considers even such seemingly innocent rituals as sending Valentine cards to be undermining its authority. Father Aram Mailian, who teaches theology, said, "It starts with innocent greetings and cards, then comes joining a sect and that's it - the person is lost for the Armenian church." Even the head of the Church Catholicos Garegin II has expressed his concern. "Overall I think that recently the church has interfered into our lives way too much, and before you know it they'll make us fast and declare you a bad Armenian if you refuse," countered Armine, manager of a Yerevan supermarket. "A holy place is never empty," deputy minister of culture Karine Khodikian told IWPR. "The Armenian church failed to explain in good time which saint should be given preference, and it is to blame for the fact that our young people send each other Valentines instead of Sargises. But I think not all is lost, and the Church can still repair its omission. In any event, I believe that everyone should do what they feel is right. You can't achieve anything by forbidding things - you can only make it worse." Karine Ter-Saakian is a reporter for the Respublika Armeina newspaper in Yerevan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 St Sargis' Day is always celebrated on the first Friday of February. He was an early Christian warrior who was martyred on January 31, 363. Armenian folk tradition had it that he had abducted his beloved and then married her, making him a patron saint for lovers. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... St. Sargis is the patron saint of Karabagh young men? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... St. Sargis is the patron saint of Karabagh young men? Though abduction has nothing to do with love, it is to do with the possesion of property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Though abduction has nothing to do with love, it is to do with the possesion of property. Who says the "abducted" wasn't consenting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 shes been my valentine since i met her http://www.angelfire.com/az2/lepconnie/lep2/lepcon.jpg Me thinks you're not tellin' the truth here lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 I was waiting for so long For Valentines Day to come Everyone told me to be strong Hold on, and don't shed a tear Through the darkness and good times I knew I'd make it through And the world thought I had it all But I was waiting for Valentines Day Hush, now Valentines Day is so close Oh, it's almost blinding me I can't believe, this day is approching so fast Let the rain come down and wash away my tears Let it fill my soul and drown my fears Let it shatter the walls for a new sun The Valentines Day has come Where it was dark now there's light Where there was pain now there's joy Where there was weakness I found my strength All in the eyes of the Valentines Day The Valentines Day has come Good Day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 http://www.angelfire.com/az2/lepconnie/vidcaps/lep2/lep59.JPG "Will you stop with them poems and be me valentine?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 lmao!!! what have you guys been babblin about? only been gone for a day and a 1/2!! ~~~ gevo jan, you're my valentine too love ya sirun jan ~~~however, applications are still bein accepted!! hmmmm..always room for more dwarves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Me thinks you're not tellin' the truth here lad. why do u think that mouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 "Will you stop with them poems and be me valentine?" Bounce baby out the door I aint gonna be your valentine Bounce baby out the door Get up and move Dont make me act a fool! Just bounce baby out the door I aint gon' take this no more you know i aint a fool Said you're going with your boys today and "Don't worry cause I'll be home late," But I know you're cheatin' out there, creepin,' You've been freakin' babe. So let me tell you how it's going to be. And you can ask as much as you want. But I aint gonna be your valentine You know this is what I did! I called your pager and your two-way boy but no response. Start looking and i found you in some other women's arms. Don't try to front boy cause I saw you there with my own eyes. Just get your stuff boy cause I'm tired of hearing all your lies!! I aint gonna be your valentine Bounce baby out the door Get up and move Dont make me act a fool! Just bounce baby out the door I aint gon' take this no more Good Day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 ~~~however, applications are still bein accepted!! hmmmm..always room for more dwarves... are they now...! and just how many can you handle? ..and si this all at once or in sucession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 You tell 'em Archer...one gal with soem (man) sense around here..in an otherwise (very) sensible bunch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 aye aye aye..id rather celebrate holloween and friday the 13th today...and great Valentines day is tomorrow actually....its cliche-ness makes me want to barf....but the rest is cute.... the terendez thing sounds fun though....im going to be going to one on saturday...well se how that goes...and im invited to a valentines day party hmmmm i really dont want to go....seems to PINK for me...theyre gonna have pink decorations everywhere...reminds me of pepto bismol...now im really gonna barf!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 "Will you stop with them poems and be me valentine?" methinks a good lil mouse needs a kitty with sharp claws for rough play? no?? after all only a purrin' kitty (meowww) can appreciate the long tail of a mouse!! easier to catch one and spin around that way!! ~~~ aahhh who give's a rat's ass (no pun!!! hehe) about valentine's when the suspense and horror of friday the 13th is present???!!!! always room for lovin...but nothin like 'freddy friday'...haaaaaaa!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Well what can I say, snow white was never know for her wisdom when it came to making decisions for her (long term) best interests...sure mouse play can entertain for a time...but eventually a princess must think of princes and realize that rodents are in general a dirty lot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nvard Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Happy Valentine's Day everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Happy Valentine's Day everyone now it's time for me to go find that special gift for my wife lady’s any suggestion ??/ remember it’s not only valentines + it’s her birth day Ohhhh boy I’m in trouble now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Happy Valentine's Day everyone now it's time for me to go find that special gift for my wife lady’s any suggestion ??/ remember it’s not only valentines + it’s her birth day Ohhhh boy I’m in trouble now Busted. I suggest you visit the Superstition thread and ask some of us superstitious folks for a nice prayer. On a side note, you can go to a flower shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 methinks a good lil mouse needs a kitty with sharp claws for rough play? no?? after all only a purrin' kitty (meowww) can appreciate the long tail of a mouse!! easier to catch one and spin around that way!! ~~~ aahhh who give's a rat's ass (no pun!!! hehe) about valentine's when the suspense and horror of friday the 13th is present???!!!! always room for lovin...but nothin like 'freddy friday'...haaaaaaa!!!!!! Well, them kitties really enjoy my tail, especially when they are choking. Are you a kitty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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