sev-mard Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 But I prefer the whole package. A bit more resistance and anchorage. Yeess....way to bring the thunder here Stormy, I like the cut of your jib~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 More recent research, however, has questioned the benefit of the procedure. Uncircumcised boys, the research shows, have only a slightly higher rate of infection and disease than circumcised boys. Now the AAP has declared in its March issue of the journal Pediatrics, "What medical benefits [circumcision] does have do not warrant the AAP to recommend routine newborn circumcision." "It appears most people can lead a healthy life without having to have it done," Dr. Jack Swanson, a member of the AAP's Task Force on Circumcision, tells WebMD. "All the studies did show a benefit to having circumcision, but the benefits were not great." Next thing to do would be to discover the hot water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 imo uncircumcised is just gross and disgusting!! (sorry to those who are not!)...it's the truth!! it's just...uhhhhhh....it's like women who don't keep "theirs" clean and shaven, i am beginning to suspect this!!... that in some cultures women just let it grow and men...well, they need to "take off the hat"...sorry/bad joke!! that last part! i know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Bruin, I think you and Khodja would make a great aesthetic couple. He - circumsized rifle and you - clean shaved holster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Bruin, I think you and Khodja would make a great aesthetic couple. He - circumsized rifle and you - clean shaved holster thank you! "we" are lucky to have your blessings.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 My ex for all her maddening controlling ways "inherited" from her Lebanese Armenian parents was extremely clean in this regard. I really appreciated this, having had some very unclean girlfriends before her. One of the more beauiful odars who literally walked out of our mutual residence together to shack up with and later marry the famous attorney of a famous person was at times clean in this regard and at other times not. I can tell you an unshaved woman is a turn off.My Dad was not circumcized and would state sometimes that if he didn't keep it clean that it would smell down there. I agree with you hyebruin on all points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Hagarag, it will smell if you don't take shower frequently which I know for many Jews and Moslems during certain periods of the year is an offense. Moslems and Jews (like you) are not the most hygienic people in the world. In Europe we take shower (same is in Armenia), and do not cut off parts of our bodies to please somebody or to save some precious time by not taking a shower. As to women being clean....wrong again. Some shaved "holsters" are equally smelly as non-shaved, but that is totally different issue. Shaving among women (I mean total shaving:) is only popular among Moslem women (Koran says so) and porno stars. BTW in Europe one of the ways to tell weather someone is Christian, Jew or Moslem is by figuring out weather he is circumcised or not.Back in the Army we had few Jews and Moslems and they were extremely embarrassed to take shower with the rest of the soldiers. ---Edited by Sip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 As to women being clean....wrong again. Some shaved "holsters" are equally smelly as non-shaved, but that is totally different issue. Shaving among women (I mean total shaving:) is only popular among Moslem women (Koran says so) and porno stars. hmmm, let's see could this type of stereotypical attitude towards the female body contribute to some of the not so liberal "armenian ways" in regards to sex? let's not go there! don't want to open that nasty can of worms! ---all i can say is that personal hygiene is an individual matter and no religion or culture should play a part in it as far as "regulating" what people should and should not do with their bodies or with their partners!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Here you go again with the "Moshe" comments. I was not referring to woen being totally shaved, just cleanliness. And if I was truly a Jew, then why was my Dad uncircumcized? Your brain remains in the ROA and in Europe. You do not understand or want to understand American ways. My Dad came here, quickly learned the American ways, changed his name, left his Armenian Catholic roots and became a Pochcagan. When we had to take showers after our track and field events in high school and college, it was the uncircumcized athletes who were embarassed by the look of their manhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 This is what I'm saying. I, for example cannot tolerate ladies with UNshaved legs. Makes me think that I'm in Praque 1981. If one keeps high standarts of hyigine, then all b/s requirements from all kinds of books are not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Moshe, count me out. I'm not going to learn the American ways no matter what. The opposite is more likely. Americans will learn my ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Hey gams, your a champ - LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Gams, You are such a typical Armenian, pigheaded to the MAX. You remind me of my ex-wife. I will DEFINITELY marry an odar next time around as I am clearly more of the "America" portion of my "handle" than the "Hye" portion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Pighead!!! I love it. It is better than being ....OK let me think of a proper term...yes... ostracized In this forum I have learnt that there are black Armenians, circumsized Armenians, even American-Armenians, and I still 'm priviliged to call myself Armenian PS: Accel you are right. We are the Champions. Screw them all!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 In this forum I have learnt that there are black Armenians, I mean I have a lot of Armenians friends but I'm not a black Armenian.........could I be so lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Sev-mard, He is not speaking of you. He is speaking of the famous Hughes brothers and of all the black Armenians from Ethiopia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Oh I know, i'm just making a joke. The topic was getting heated between you all. Thanks though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 (edited) Wow...all these comments...pretty wild... Well I'm very typical of males born in the USA these past I don't know 40-50 years maybe (don't know when the practice came widely into vogue)...and thus am circumscised...and also after much discussion/debate we decided to have our two boys cut as well (the docs wouldn't let me participate/view which I thought was a pretty primitive attitude..they said too many folks get upset..etc). Anyway there are pros and cons (from many aspects)...but I'm happy with the decision (for me/my boys) as I do think hygeine is better - even if perhaps a non-issue if you are properly attentive etc. I can also see why it would be more apealing to gals (particualrly those such as hyebruin...with such sensibilities)...but perhaps Stormy also has a good point (but is it just the point that matters? LOL....perhaps a poll is in order eh? LOL (literally? LOL) Recently I heard a guy on the radio talking about having been circumsised as an adult (ouch!)....he claims that sex is much better for him now - that he has added feeling etc (though could be a problem for many guys eh? WHo have trouble enough with that sort of thing [happens to the best of course...just don't want it to happen all the time...and good to be blessed with swift recovery etc if it does...also an incentive to learn other "skills" perhaps less dependent on a full mast condition...(this was not my incentive for developing such however...LOL)...anyway - yeah - someone should put together a Pole poll! LOL (for ladies only to answer of course) And I'd be interested if there is any correlation on the shaven- unshaven issue (for gals...guys? hm - LOL) - with the High Heel and other female adornment and such issue. That is if there is a correlation between those who perfer au natural in make-up/ferfume/casual dress (and to not shave/alter etc) versus those who like to augment/modify etc for the benefit of guys/others etc or for whatever reasons...maybe coments could do here...(versus a poll...not sure how to do one to do the issue justice..). And do folks see just shaving as the equivilant of such things as heels, make-up, tattos or what have you..or is it a lesser action etc? Edited November 12, 2003 by THOTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Recently I heard a guy on the radio talking about having been circumsised as an adult (ouch!)....he claims that sex is much better for him now - that he has added feeling etc (though could be a problem for many guys eh? I've heard that uncircumsiced guys have more sensation because of all the 'original' parts and the friction caused by said parts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 (edited) Yeah Sev mard - I've heard that one too...but in the end i think its 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other type of thing...and I've rarely heard any guy complaining so much regardless...LOL Edited November 12, 2003 by THOTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Sev-mard, He is not speaking of you. He is speaking of the famous Hughes brothers and of all the black Armenians from Ethiopia. Listen Jehud, I know some Armenians from Ethiopia who are as white as first snow. Why I have the feeling that you always confuse the forums. The black (semitic) Jews from Ethiopia were few years ago rescued to Tel Aviv, when the war broke out in Erithrea. HeLLO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Here is the sad part of whole this circumcised business. What the bloody turk, by the means of bloody jatagan, didn't achieve in six centuries, Uncle Sam did it. The turk, wanted you to be as turk as he was. The turk, wanted you to be circumcised, the turk wanted you to become Moslem, the turk wanted you to forget your language, your culture, your glorious past, your philosophers, scientists, men of honor and grace. The turk, wanted you to give up your faith, your dreams and become servant of his administration.All of this was achieved in less then 100 years by Uncle Sam. He wanted you to dream about your wooden house, your American car, your blond wife, your credit cards and the fake feeling that you are better than others. Uncle Sam ordered his doctors to circumcise you, to become enlightened protestant, to become more American than he is, instead of building a stone mansion for the generations to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 (edited) This topic should be filed under the "Dark Humor" section. And in that spirit ... I propose that we come up with a list of unnecessary body parts with the view to correct what the evolution forgot to delete. I mean, most people use either the right or left part of their brains. I can see an oportunity to reduce brain cancer by a whopping 50% by a widescale targeted lobotomy campaign. Do we really need two lungs? Take one out, and voila, you just reduced the probability of anything going wrong with your lung(s) by 50%. Men that are uninterested in sex, due to old age for example, should have all the now-irrelevant gear taken out as a preventative measure. Oh the possibilities. One of the kidneys? Ear lobes? Do we really need two eyes? Can't we have a normal life with one eye? Having two instead of one just doubles your chances that something may go wrong with your eye(s). And I didn't even begin to enumarate the implications for weight loss. How about heart health? Less organs to feed, less blood to pump. Surely a longer, healthier, and more enjoyable life. This evolution thing sure has left a lot of baggage around. Yeah, it's obvious that we are smarter than nature. It's time to take action. Edited November 12, 2003 by Twilight Bark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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America-Hye Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Listen Gams, there ARE Armenians from Ethiopia that are ges-oo-ges. I know a few. I am not that stupid to confuse them with Falashas. You really have blinders on, fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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