nellie Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 i got into an argument with a few of my guy friends today over this topic. so i'm really interested, "why do women change their last names when they get married?" isn't this just another form of ownership, the man becomes the sole proprietor of his wife? to me, this is insane. my husband shouldn't expect me to change my last name, my entire identity, and take on his. what's wrong with my own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 it has never been a problem for me if the women changes her last names when they get married or not. Kids staf Movses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul bunyan Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 How does changing your last name causethe loss of identity? "a rose by any other name smells the same" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 My wife has chosen to keep her maiden name - doesn't bother me in the least. My position - who am I to impose my name on someone else? Actually she has said she would change it if I really wanted her too - but it is a non-issue for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 My ex-wife did not change her name when we were married. She did not change it for her first husband either. Her name was her identity and she was proud of it and her parents' accomplishments. I had NO problem with that. The problem was how she and her family approached my surname and my family background. Although my Armenian surname was associated with great works, that was not the surname we went by. She and her family were not at all concerned with the history of MY family. I was considered beneath them despite my family's glorious past. So, what is critical is not whether your wife will change her name or not but whether there is atwo-way respect for one another's family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul bunyan Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Hmmm, I always thought that when a woman married it was a legal requirement that she charge her name. I have heard that its alot easier legalwise, that is forwifes and children to collect insurance monies and the husband's property.if the wife gives up her last name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 My mother kept her last name boodaghian, i assume because its apart of her identity just like her first name and why should she take on her husbands lastname? [ May 10, 2002, 03:32 PM: Message edited by: koko ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 I think people make too much fuss about names ... they don't really mean anything anymore. Before they used to represents clans and stuff I guess. I am perfectly happy being known as a number ... as long as it can be proven that it is unique If two people get married, we may have to take their corresponding numbers and find the Least Common Multiple or something like that. Maybe even multiply it by a specific prime number to make it trully unique. Of course for Armenians, we'll just add 'ian' to the end. So to answer the question, I don't think names are too important as long as each individual has a unique identifier. [ May 10, 2002, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Sip ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 quote: If two people get married, we may have to take their corresponding numbers and find the Least Common Multiple or something like that. Maybe even multiply it by a specific prime number to make it trully unique. Of course for Armenians, we'll just add 'ian' to the end. And after this, I am accused of bringing math on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anshnork Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Even when women keep their maiden names when they marry, their children tend to use their father's last name. How would the men feel if their children took on their wife's name instead of theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 To clarify, if I were the father, I wouldn't feel any different than if they used "my" last name. I think Thoth also said the same thing (i.e. doesn't matter which name is used). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sip:To clarify, if I were the father, I wouldn't feel any different than if they used "my" last name. I think Thoth also said the same thing (i.e. doesn't matter which name is used).agreed - no big deal....though they do have my last name - my wife never requested otherwise and I think we just assumed they would have my name - though again I am/would always be open to some other way - perhaps even a complete new name altogether. I do like that they have my name however - but I could not easily be worked into a frenzy if someone suggested something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 Sip, Thoth, try to explain that to Hagarag who puts too much attention on "family values", last name. and he is the liberal one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie Posted May 13, 2002 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sip:If two people get married, we may have to take their corresponding numbers and find the Least Common Multiple or something like that. Maybe even multiply it by a specific prime number to make it trully unique. Of course for Armenians, we'll just add 'ian' to the end.perhaps the most interesting response i've ever gotten!! Doesn't sound bad at all, Sip. nellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Glad to be of service! I knew there was a reason for taking high school math and algebra all those years (my teachers were telling me that I would need them but I didn't really believe them ... I thought just having 1's and 0's is enough!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I think this is a very interesting subject to revisit. I don't understand why guys make a huge deal about women keeping their maiden name. What do you guys think about this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I am perfectly happy being known as a num ... hmmm ... nevermind. I guess I already said that. Holy old topic Batman!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 i could care less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) I think this is a very interesting subject to revisit. I don't understand why guys make a huge deal about women keeping their maiden name. What do you guys think about this? If we're going to ask this question, then we should also ask why offspring must inherit the father's last name? Imagine the length of last names if both the mother's and father's last names were kept: + After 2 generations, each last name would consist of 4 names. + After 10 generations (~300 years), each last name would consist of 1024 names! (1024 == 2^10) + After 20 generations (~600 years), each last name would consist of 1,000,000 names! (~ 2^20) So it's a practical issue. But in places like the U.S. where women are also professionals then this issue is coming up. At large corporations, it's not uncommon to find hyphenated last names on women, particularly women who are middle managers (and other high-visibility positions)... In the rest of the world where most women don't have to work, this is a non-issue and women gladly take on the name of their husbands (who wouldn't? your husband's enabling you to not work, and what's taking on his last name?)... Edited July 5, 2007 by Shahan Araradian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 In the rest of the world where most women don't have to work ... "Don't have to work"? Don't you mean "aren't allowed to work"? Also kind of strange that you split the world into "places like US" and "the rest". Shahan, I often wonder about your rather strange perception of the world. Even in places like China, Japan, Iran, and India that are not much like "the US" women work... and not just because they "have" to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I am perfectly happy being known as a num ... hmmm ... nevermind. I guess I already said that. Holy old topic Batman!!! Sorry I wasn't around then, just wanted to open it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I guess it's up to the woman,she sould have control over her own name...that being said,I don't understand why a woman would want a different last name then her children,which is what I've seen with woman not changing their names after they marry...now that I don't get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Maral, I agree with you. In this case I know that I'll follow my mom's footsteps. When she married she knew she wanted to create a great family. So, she changed her last name to my dad's. We all have the same last name. She thought and still thinks that all family members should have the same last name. And she could've been picky and not changed, as she was already famous in our city by her paternal last name as an outstanding pedagogue. And her own mom hadn't changed her last name. But my mom did. And I think I will too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I know of several Barsgahye women who didnt' change their last name after they married...any reason for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I know of several Barsgahye women who didnt' change their last name after they married...any reason for this? most hayastantsis don't... at least in armenia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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