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I don´t see any reason whatsoever to look at gays, whether Armenian or not in a different manner.

 

I have seen gays behave badly, towards the same and the other sex. Same applies to straight people. Why should we be bothered with someones sexuality if it doesn´t affect us ? What if someone is a fetishist, a far more common paraphylia, is he also not Armenian ?

 

Ararat, the AGBU magazine had an issue on Armenian lesbians once. Quite interesting. So did AIM, with a sad side to the story. Well, live and let live. We have far more important issues to be concerned with.

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And if you read the letters to AIM the following months, you'd find that there was pretty much uproar for publishing such a stupid article. How can we worry ourselves with other things if our culture is allowing liberalizing influences into itself?
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Boghos! Youre back! Godd too see you, where have you been all this time?

 

quote:
Originally posted by Boghos:

 

What if someone is a fetishist,

 


 

Fetishists. That is now something that is plain old weird.. Are they the people that like stepping on slugs? Can you IMAGINE if there are any armenian fetishists?

 

I can just see it now....Old Armenian couples keeping little fetishist shops in the alleys of Glendale!

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Well Nvard it seems you are confused Armenians has always had very similar morals traditions etc. with other caucasian people... All the values within the family, brotherhood, respect to elders etc.... And mentality is very similar... You are right we belong to different ethnic groups but we are all the children of the mountaines of the Caucasus... ) The problems in the Caucasus are mainly caused by extarnal powers and i personally believe if we all sit around the table we can solve our problems alone. BTW Georgians are not muslims and they belong to the main Caucasian Group.

 

Anyways, i don't want to argue with you. For God's sake you are an Armenian girl he he

 

About gays: there is one thing: They are very good designers : )

 

BTW There is a project is going to be out very soon about the Caucasus. Big money invested into it. All republics and states included. Me and other 3 armenian guys are in charge of spreading it in Armenia

 

 

Artur

May God bring piece to the lands of the Greater and Lesser CauCaSuS!

 

[This message has been edited by Artur (edited February 12, 2001).]

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Reading all these posts I realised that I do not completely agree with any one of you guys, but rather my viewpoint is a mixture of everything that has been mentioned.

 

First of all I think some people are born gay (SOME) and others choose the gay lifestyle (MOST). Now, I think the ones who flaunt it the most are the ones who have chosen to live a homosexual (or bi-sexual) lifestyle. I have my own theory as to why people choose this lifestyle (which still needs to be tested and will not be expressed here).

 

I am strongly against gay-bashing and do not tollerate people who engage in such activities (I am not talking about a joke here and there). I've encountered people who were homosexuals AND wonderful human beings (I do wish more people would be as human as them). What right did I have to judge them or teach them how to live? I choose to "Live and let live."

 

One thing that I do have a problem with is "homoexual public display of affection." Since I beleive that homosexuality is also learned I don't feel like children should be exposed to it so bluntly. No matter how much they hear about it, it should not be thrown in their faces like that. In my oppinion it affects their psychological nature in a negative way (i.e. confusion).

 

So my only concern is that - children.

 

A

 

PS. Also, I don't think gay marriages should be legal. It just does not make sence to me.

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You know, I know of a few gay armenians who would love a juicy bite of Artur and Tigrannes' soujoukh....

I think both Artur and Tigrannes might be masking their own sexual confusion under the guise of religious homophobia.

But then again, that's just my professional opinion...

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That's what all you damned homos say. If we hate you, it's because we're secretly one of you blah blah blah. Do you ever hear someone calling a Nazi a closet Jew? HELL NO. This is why fags disgust me.
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DoC, coming to this forum and and the first thing you do is entering Gay discussion defending them and plus having gay mates... That is scary man... what do you do with them, hang out??? :) Anyways there is one saying: Talk less it is good for you! Don't forget that most of the troubles come from talking too much... :) But lets call it just warning :))

 

 

AA

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quote:
Originally posted by Kazza:
Boghos! Youre back! Godd too see you, where have you been all this time?

Fetishists. That is now something that is plain old weird.. Are they the people that like stepping on slugs? Can you IMAGINE if there are any armenian fetishists?

I can just see it now....Old Armenian couples keeping little fetishist shops in the alleys of Glendale!



Dear Kazza,

I have been lurking, mostly. But also quite involved with professional matters. My sabbatical was cut short, hence less time here. I promise to be more involved.

I noticed a few changes in the boards and feel they are for the better.

Thanks for the warm reception.
Boghos
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Yes everyone,

It was a joke. I know I'm new here, but I'll just let you know up front that I'm all about sarcasm. Sorry if I stepped on any toes. Oh and by the way, I'm very straight and consider myself a fairly open minded person. I accept all of God's people as they are, and feel that life's too short to dwell on such petty issues.

the DoC

p.s. A little advice, if a gay person breathes on you, make sure to cover your mouth. Being gay is infectious you know. Oh and by the way, I hear they heavily recruit in the armenian population. ;p

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It's impossible to be 'part Jewish'. Judaism is a religion, either you are a Jew or you aren't. You can, however, be part Israeli. It could also be argued that Hitler may have had ancestors who were Jewish. Then again, my ancestors (and everyone's here) were at one point in time pagans. Doesn't make us part pagan now, does it?
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Hi fives doc! You are new buddy!

 

Come with me and Pilafhead and we can hang around in the pub. Tigrannes, your'e our jan, you can come too..! Hopefully bellthecat, Farsisteve and the girls will join us too..

 

 

 

[This message has been edited by Kazza (edited February 14, 2001).]

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Welcome DoC! What's the name mean? I wasn't sure if you were someone else under a fake-fake name! I posted pro-gay stuff under another name before just to stir the pot, so I thought someone else might too.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kazza:
oh Artur Jan, please don't get mad:: )) I was only messin'!:: )) we know you are as straight as they come..


Kazza my first reaction was to write a reply something like "Bad jokes, Kazza"... but you know me that i can't argue with an armenian girl...


Happy valentine's day for all you girls!



[This message has been edited by Artur (edited February 15, 2001).]
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Pilafhead,

Thanks for the welcome! I was actually trying to stir the pot a bit myself. Seems like it worked....

As for the nickname, well it's kind of a long story. Just a nickname that's stuck with me for a long time.

the DoC

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  • 7 months later...
quote:
Originally posted by Artur:
??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Kazza i can't believe that you opened this kind of topic.......

All gays should be put to death!!!!!! That's my thought and what my religion supports!!!

And this organisation Of gays and lesbians... Pilafhead it is sad... i can't believe there aren't people who complain about it...

Kazza, gays in Armenia are put to prison if police find them... and no lawayers are agreed to defend them... i support this... and i personally think that there should be punishment without any court... direct...

Those gay armenians, about 99.9% of them live in the US... and for me they are not armenians... so we can not count them...

All of them nomatter who they are where they are.... are shame of our nation... may God punish them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In Azerbaijan they passed the law of rights given to gays... and now police cannot do much against them...

It is just big shame, thats what it is... Shame


Artur
P.S. Leviticus 20:12-14: If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death(!!!!!); their blood will be on their own heads.





bravo artur! i couldent have said it better
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quote:
Originally posted by Nvard:
You know what,Artur...you're too extreme.
when you speak about christianity(which means love & tolerance ) why do you say that gays should be put to death?They do exist - deal with it! They are people just like you.If you were educated enough you would know that they are not gay just because they want to - they are born gay!
Speaking about Armenian gays..Yeah it does sound weird but as long as they are hayrenaser - who cares??We are a small nation so we shouldn't reject other Armenians.This won't benefit our nation.
Personally, I don't care about gays (hope my future husbant won't feel gay one day...lol.then I'll hate them..lol..)

By the way,as a Memeber of EC,Armenia did pass the law you hate

you know what,I'm SICK of your attempts to make Armenia and Armenians a part of the Caucasus brotherhood!We don't belong there!
If you were educated enough,again,you would know why.
Why don't you make your post more reasonable?!



i disagree!

i say the world would be a better place with out gays, an that we should put those sick minded child melasters to DEATH!
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Funny, my religion proscribes that anyone who calls for someone to be put to death - shall be put to death! (Imagine what type of person could call for such - a true menace to society and good values...I can surely see why spome advocate tyhat this type be purged...) Luckily for you - I have a mind of my own - and compassion for others and don't believe I should be passing judgement on to others just because they are different from myself...

 

 

And just what is the compelling rational to put someone to death because of love for or an act of love with another human being (even if perhaps we find such an act etc disagreeable?) I myself detest gum cheewing - it drives me up the wall - it disgusts me to no end - should I be advocating that gume chewers be killed (or at the very least have their jaws wired shut...just because it disagrees with my particualr morailty/orientation)?

 

quote:
Originally posted by Artur:

??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

Kazza i can't believe that you opened this kind of topic.......

 

All gays should be put to death!!!!!! That's my thought and what my religion supports!!!

 

And this organisation Of gays and lesbians... Pilafhead it is sad... i can't believe there aren't people who complain about it...

 

Kazza, gays in Armenia are put to prison if police find them... and no lawayers are agreed to defend them... i support this... and i personally think that there should be punishment without any court... direct...

 

Those gay armenians, about 99.9% of them live in the US... and for me they are not armenians... so we can not count them...

 

All of them nomatter who they are where they are.... are shame of our nation... may God punish them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In Azerbaijan they passed the law of rights given to gays... and now police cannot do much against them...

 

It is just big shame, thats what it is... Shame

 

 

Artur

P.S. Leviticus 20:12-14: If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death(!!!!!); their blood will be on their own heads.

 


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Those of you who proscribe death for homosexuals are creating a worldwide brigade of a second front for the Azeris. I guess that you are hell-bent on alienating one more group. Travelling in liberal, pro-environment circles, I was attacked when I revealed that I was Armenian. And some Armenians attacked me for being a progressive.
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