cenaphakan Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 what do you know about this man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Cenephakan - I must insist - you first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadArmo Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Daha ermeni var mi burda? http://home.earthlink.net/~artsakh/_images/ataturk.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 quote:Originally posted by cenaphakan:what do you know about this manWasn't he a big-shot turkish general during World War I? I think he is a big turkish hero of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wh00t Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 quote:Originally posted by MadArmo:Daha ermeni var mi burda? http://home.earthlink.net/~artsakh/_images/ataturk.jpgHehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted October 30, 2002 Report Share Posted October 30, 2002 Just big turkish ***hole! Every rule has an exeption. Turkish rules have no exeption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Anatolia had sacrificed its all but the later generations gave Turkey with their own hands to Israel, USrael and UKrael... Atatürk would commit suicide if he had woken up and learnt the situation of TR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Caucasian I see nothing wrong you being patriotic and gave you credit for wanting to spend time in an Armenia forum however practicing objectivity towards your heroes requires you to let your patriotism subside and your humanity increase or objectivity. You have probably been told many great things about Ataturk however for Armenians and Greeks and other Anatolia minorities view him as a butcher, murderer of thousands of innocent people. You probably know these horrific acts if not then simply do a five min google search and you will find plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Sorry the above is intended for cenaphakan who started this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 (edited) "Daha ermeni var mi burda" writes above the picture means "are there more armenians here?" in English Edited August 30, 2003 by Caucasian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Listen Hasan, this is Armenian forum. Since I don't read turkish, f..... you too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Gams, I hate to have to say this to you, but please chill out... Caucasian, it would be nice if you would post in a language that is accessible to all. Many of us here don't speak Turkish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Daha ermeni var burdaIn fact it is kind of nice of Caucasian to state that.It is in a way an acknowledgement if you will.It is a statement in reply to the question above under the picture of that one eyed butcher, "koer moskof". The turks called him that as an insult based on the fact he was not native Turkish but a donmeh, they called him the "blind Rusian". The question is; Is there Armenians left yet?And Cuacasian' reply is "Yes there is Armenians left"!!If Caucasian can stay long enough he will have to answer; "No there are no Turks left"!!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 I suspect that Caucasian has a deep dark secret in his closet.Would it be that he knows his Armenian ancestry and is trying too hard to convince himself that Kemal slogan; "Ne mutlu turk um deyene" (Blessed are those who profess to be Turks). Even in his sermonettes about the virtues of Islam one could sense a bit of hesitation and doubt.Is he a Circassian/Cherkez or a Laz. i.e. a minority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Arpa, I will write something for you to translate in2 English Ermeni var, sen ne forumu zannediyorsun ki burayi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caucasian Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 I don't find that slogan democratic, too. And "Ne yazik Turkum diyene". Find the English or Armenian meaning yourself. Why not democratic? Because there are Caucasians, Kurds, and many more minorities. Did you know something called "student's adjuration" (from 1st until 9th class) ends with "Ne mutlu..." and "Varligim Tutk varligina armagan olsun - My being is a present to Turkish being". What is that? If Greeks invase Turkey and control the education, will the students shout as "My being is a present to Hellenic being"??? I don't like the Turkish fascism. They call Kurds "Mountain Turks" or call the Northern Caucasians "completely Turkic" or use "what happy is the i'm turkish sayer" I am a non-Turkish and non-Armenian man in Turkey(some of you still insist on not understanding) but I don't have a minority status acording to the organic law (Everyone born in Turkey or has a relationship with T.R. is a Turk. Minority status is valid for non-Muslims). They did it like this because they knew the peace coulnd't be supplied (because of the similarity of Turkey to UN as ethnicity). I AM AGAINST GOVERNMENT'S FASCISTIC STRUCTURE AND I CAN CRITISIZE TURKISH GOVERNMENT EVEN IN AN ARMENIAN FORUM.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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