ara baliozian Posted February 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Friday, February 14, 2003*****************************Gourgen Mahari: "A nuisance is the kind of person who wakes you up to tell you you can go to sleep."*Overheard: "I love my fellow Armenians; I hate only those I know."*Our political parties are for participation and involvement but against free speech, which is like saying 2+2=22.*At one time both anti-Semitism and fascism were popular and respectable.They are so no longer. As a result, fewer people are now willing toidentify themselves as fascists and anti-Semites. But that doesn't meantheir number has changed.*Asked to identify the 100 best books in world literature, Oscar Wilde is said to have replied: "I can't. I have only written 5."*I learned a new word today: ignoranus: an ignoramus who is also "where the sun don't shine."*To paraphrase Sartre: "Hell is other Armenians."*Where the majority is silent, any fool may think the majority is on his side.*A historical fact that may not be in our favor may not be enemy propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ara baliozian:Wednesday, February 12, 2003********************************To support a corrupt regime has nothing do with patriotism and everything to do with treason and betrayal. *Is there a difference between a corrupt Turkish regime and a corrupt Armenian regime? None whatever. I agree, but what if the alternative of the corrupt regime is another corrupt regime? So, there is no regime really to support. Not supporting anyone is not patriotism either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Saturday, February 15, 2003*******************************A fanatic is one who thinks: "Since I have truth on my side, I don't have to stand on ceremony." More often than not, however, what he has on his side is not the truth but a lie, and not just a lie but a Big Lie, and not even his Big Lie but someone else’s.*And when a fanatic speaks of standing on ceremony what he means is civilization and what he ignores is that the alternative to civilization is barbarism.*As for truth: it is not something you can own like real estate or capital, but an endless search.*A dialogue is not a clash of egos, that’s because when egos clash what follows is verbal massacre.*This has been said before but it bears repeating: Of the many forms of cowardice, the worse is fear of free speech.*A warning: Do not enter an Armenian discussion forum on the internet after breakfast, lunch, or dinner: you may lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 HOMILY*********************In our context the words honesty and solidarity might as well be synonymous. Because if we are honest we shall have to admit that divisions or tribalism has been the main source of all our problems. It follows, as night follows day, that solidarity is the only honest solution. Having said that I will be accused of further dividing the community between those who are for solidarity and those who are against it. What we have here is a typical Catch-22 situation: You are either for or against solidarity. If you are for solidarity you are also against it because you further divide an already divided community. But not quite. As far as I know no Armenian in his right mind is against solidarity. Which is where honesty comes in. Because if we are honest we shall have to admit that when our dividers (namely bosses and bishops) say they are for solidarity, what they really mean is solidarity on their own terms, which can only be realized by the unconditional surrender of the opposition – which, as everyone can guess, will never happen. What has a far better chance to happen is solidarity by means of dialogue and compromise – two honest but also quintessentially unArmenian concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Monday, February 17, 2003**********************************To those who say the United States is the source of all evil, I say: The world was a mess long before America was discovered. And to those who say Israel is the source of all evil, I ask: Do you really think the world was a better place when Jews were oppressed, enslaved, exploited, persecuted, diasporized, ghettoized, pogromized, and systematically exterminated like vermin?*Since I don't feel the need the defend a fictionalized record of infallibility, I don't mind admitting error. If you think you will feel better by asserting every word I have published so far is a lie and every single one of your own pronouncements bears the imprimatur of papal infallibility, I say, by all means, be my guest. I for one will not contradict you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Tuesday, February 18, 2003******************************A pessimist is born on the day he undertakes a project driven by optimism.*A hundred years ago our partisans challenged the might of the Ottoman Empire. Today our academics are afraid to challenge the might of our partisans. Obviously, progress cannot be said to be our most important product.*Speaking of repeating myself: What else can you say to a self-satisfied nonentity or a loud-mouth bigot except "Don't be one!"And speaking of repetition: If you call a racist a racist, he will call you a racist and having done so he will be convinced he is not one. Am I implying only racists, bigots and nonentities accuse me of repeating myself? Implying? Hell no! Asserting? Damn right!!*The Jews have many more reasons to hate the world than the other way around.*In the words of the celebrated Turkish poet Pilaf Dolma Bey – or was it the Ottoman statesman Rahat Lokhoum *****? -- "Avoid your enemy’s tongue as you would avoid a jackass’s hind quarters or a cobra’s fangs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sip: quote:Originally posted by ara baliozian:... In the words of the celebrated Turkish poet Pilaf Dolma Bey ...smilies/drool.gif I know him well! Good one smilies/thumbup.gifThat's right, very tasty poet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ara baliozian:... In the words of the celebrated Turkish poet Pilaf Dolma Bey ... I know him well! Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Wednesday, February 19, 2003*********************************It’s all a matter of selection and emphasis. If we select and emphasize the negative, no one – be it a person, tribe, nation or culture – can escape universal hatred. No, not even God. There was a medieval heresy of Armenian origin that stated the world as we know and experience it is a creation not of God but of the Devil. This heresy acquired so many converts that they became powerful enough to challenge the might of kingdoms of empires. *Our prejudices are invisible only to us and to those who share them. Nothing comes more easily to an anti-Semite than hatred of Jews. *During the Soviet era, Soviet pundits and propagandists had enough facts in their favor to deceive millions into believing capitalism was the source of all evil and not all their dupes were gullible fools; some were shrewd intellectuals, philosophers, and Nobelists. *What happened to medieval heresies, the Soviets and the Nazis? History buried them…but not quite. Prejudices don't die, they acquire new labels. anti-Americanism and anti-Zionism happen to be in fashion these days. As for heresies: there are many more strange religious cults today than there were in the Middle Ages. To some born-agains, even the Catholic Church is a sinister heresy. And who knows: history may yet prove them right.Nothing evil ever dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sasun: quote:Originally posted by ara baliozian:Wednesday, February 12, 2003********************************To support a corrupt regime has nothing do with patriotism and everything to do with treason and betrayal. *Is there a difference between a corrupt Turkish regime and a corrupt Armenian regime? None whatever. I agree, but what if the alternative of the corrupt regime is another corrupt regime? So, there is no regime really to support. Not supporting anyone is not patriotism either.if the regime is corrupt, we must oppose it. Under Nazi occupation, all patriotic Frenchmen resisted the regime. Those who collaborated were later tried, found guilty, and hanged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 You are quite ignorant of french history so please do not spread your ignorance. Most of those you qualify as french "patriots" were in fact communists. As for the true patriots such as De Gaulle, "freedom-caring" americans tried to get rid of them for they did not serve their purpose and imperialistic ends.  Your simplistic and manichaean views on history are quite disconcerting to say the least. Encore un autre sommet d'hypocrisie politique : la manière dont se pratiquent les "procès des criminels de guerre". Depuis des millénaires qu'il y a des guerres, elles ont toujours été entachées, dans les deux camps en conflit, par des crimes et des injustices... Mais, lors du premier procès de ce type, celui des nationaux-socialistes allemands, à Nuremberg, nous avons vu siéger sur la haute estrade, en arbitres immaculés, les responsables d'une justice qui, durant ces années-là , envoya à la torture, au poteau d'exécution ou à la mort lente, dans son propre pays, des dizaines de millions de vies innocentes.Et si l'on fait la distinction entre la mort des militaires, toujours inévitable au cours d'une guerre, et le massacre en masse des populations civiles, quel nom donner à ceux qui brûlèrent en quelques minutes, dans la seule ville d'Hiroshima, 140 000 paisibles habitants, en prétendant se justifier, dans une formule ahurissante, par le souci de "conserver en vie leurs soldats" ? Mais ce président-là et son entourage ne furent pas traduits en jugement, ils s'éteignirent au contraire avec une auréole d'honorables vainqueurs. Et quel nom donner... à ceux qui, la victoire étant déjà assurée, envoyèrent, deux jours et deux nuits durant, des armadas aériennes brûler la magnifique ville de Dresde, toute civile et bourrée de paisibles réfugiés ?En notre siècle qui connaît un tel épanouissement de la pensée juridique, comment ne pas voir que les lois internationales pondérées qui châtieraient équitablement les criminels, indépendamment -indépendamment ! - de la défaite ou de la victoire de leur camp, ces lois ne sont pas encore fabriquées, pas encore reconnues par l'ensemble de l'humanité ?  (Alexandre Soljénitsyne, déclaration faite en 1994, à l'occasion du bicentenaire de la guerre de vendée). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ara baliozian: quote:Originally posted by Sasun: quote:Originally posted by ara baliozian:Wednesday, February 12, 2003********************************To support a corrupt regime has nothing do with patriotism and everything to do with treason and betrayal. *Is there a difference between a corrupt Turkish regime and a corrupt Armenian regime? None whatever. I agree, but what if the alternative of the corrupt regime is another corrupt regime? So, there is no regime really to support. Not supporting anyone is not patriotism either.if the regime is corrupt, we must oppose it. Under Nazi occupation, all patriotic Frenchmen resisted the regime. Those who collaborated were later tried, found guilty, and hanged!I didn't mean foreign occupational regime. In general, we have to be specific. We have the example of Armenia as of today. The government is currupt undoubtedly. However, any other possible gov't would be equally or more corrupt. It is our common heritage and comes from the corruptness of general people. So if you keep opposing all of them outright that doesn't change anything towards the common good. Opposing can lead to a revolution or other catastropies. It all depends how one opposes.On the other hand, if you support the good things that the gov't does, that would be patriotic. This kind of support shouldn't be unconditional. We should also oppose the curruptness at the same time. In my opinion, the key is to find balance and progress in balance. Simply opposing is easy and doesn't do good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Sasun, I fully agree with you. Actually, is it possible to point out a non-corrupt regime in history (once propaganda has been put aside)? Very few examples come to mind for perfection is not a property of human nature. Ara Baliozan may well be the exception that confirms the rule.  [ February 21, 2003, 01:09 AM: Message edited by: axel ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 Axel, I think the reason is, most politicians are people who tend to power and like to exercise power. They may or may not think about the people. By nature politics and government are corrupt for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Thursday, February 20, 2003*******************************The only lesson some of us appear to have learned from the experience of World War II is that a genocidal hatred of Jews is morally justified. It is worth remembering that Hitler too learned an important lesson from the experience of World War I: namely, that he could get away with genocide. *I once had an old German neighbor who believed Hitler was alive somewhere in South America. I am not sure about that. But I am sure of this: his ideas are very much alive; and both Sultan Abdulhamid II and Talaat continue to have their share of fans among Turks and Turcophiles today.*If Bush is Hitler then Saddam must be either Franklin Delano Roosevelt or Churchill. Perhaps even better than both because he enjoys 100% support by his people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Friday, February 21, 2003******************************There is a type of Armenian who pretends to love Arabs but I suspect the only thing he loves about them is their mantras DEATH TO JEWS and DEATH TO THE USA. This suspicion becomes certainty when this same Armenian adopts a pro-Saddam stance. What drives him to be pro-Saddam, he will explain, is not ignorance or indifference to tyranny and related atrocities, but tolerance and charity pure and simple. But you can tell he engages in double-talk because both his charity and tolerance evaporate when it comes to Jews and Americans; and he is so blinded by his bias that he cannot see any inconsistency between his professed tolerance and visceral anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism. The only way to explain this type of aberration (or Saddamized Armenian) is to say that Armenians are brought up (make it, brainwashed) to believe they are smart, perhaps even smarter than anyone else; and driven by this flattering assessment of their IQ, they think they can utter nonsense with impunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Saturday, February 22, 2003*****************************What is infinitely more shameful than military defeat is passive and cowardly acceptance of tyranny.*A tyrant, a liar, a crook, a charlatan – they all live on edge because at any moment they may be exposed….*The dishonest man cannot help being dishonest when it comes assessing his own qualities.*By adopting a noncritical stance towards himself, the dishonest man condemns himself to gradual decline and degeneration.*It is safe to assume that all dishonest men are also stupid if only because they overestimate their own intelligence to the same degree that they underestimate everyone else’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Sunday, February 23, 2003******************************HOMILY #123==========================Corrupt regimes exist because the naïve identify it with the people and ultimately with patriotism; the opportunist exploits it to his advantage; the coward is to afraid to rock the boat; the ignorant doesn't know any better; the unprincipled will say yes to anything, including treason and betrayal; the unemployed and hungry will adapt to any situation that will grant him a minimum-wage job, and the vain will be flattered into subservience with an empty title, even a handshake and an adjective.*During the Soviet era I was personally acquainted with a high-ranking dedicated Tashnak who after a brief visit to the Homeland, where he was given an official reception, returned a staunch Communist.*I am not judging anyone. Once upon a time I too have been naïve, opportunistic, cowardly, unprincipled, ignorant, vain and hungry…and may the Good Lord (if He exists) have mercy on my soul (if I have one). Amen. Let us pray…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Monday, February 24, 2003*******************************Mankind may be divided into those who are not afraid to think new thoughts and those who prefer to recycle old crap.*To be unaware of one’s good qualities: that indeed is true humility.*I have learned nothing from my critics and my guess is they have learned nothing from me except perhaps that dishing it out is not always a one-way street.*If we consider the number of failed marriages we shall have to conclude that feminine intuition is a myth.*"Since I have killed no one, I am innocent." I wonder, did Hitler ever kill anyone with his bare hands?*I shall not suffer an eclipse because I never experienced a sunrise.*Unlike some of my critics, I don't know everything, I don't understand everything, and it is not my ambition to be infallible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Tuesday, February 25, 2003*****************************When asked to explain why she became a follower of Ernst Zundel (a notorious Canadian anti-Semite, holocaust denier, and a wanted man in Germany) a woman replied: "I was eighteen – confused – and he flattered me into thinking I was better."*What is valuable in an Armenian, or for that matter in a Turk, Arab, or Jew is not that which identifies him as a member of a tribe, nation or race (that way lies war and massacre) but that which defines him as a human being and a member of the human family (that way lies peace and brotherhood; also civilization and progress).*To say anti-Americanism and anti-Israelism are okay but anti-Arabism or Saddamism are not is to imply that fascism is in and democracy out.*Readers who accuse me of hating Armenians should ask themselves once in a while, "What is it exactly that makes me lovable?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 quote:You are quite ignorant of french history so please do not spread your ignorance. Most of those you qualify as french "patriots" were in fact communists. As for the true patriots such as De Gaulle, "freedom-caring" americans tried to get rid of them for they did not serve their purpose and imperialistic ends.i am afraid there are some wild generalities here but it is my impression that you are so infatuated with your own views and expertise that are not open to counter-arguments. quote:Your simplistic and manichaean views on history are quite disconcerting to say the least. Encore un autre sommet d'hypocrisie politique : there is some degree of hypocrisiy in all human actions and political policies. And the worst criminals have been the ideologues and the religious fanatics.  quote:a manière dont se pratiquent les "procès des criminels de guerre". Depuis des millénaires qu'il y a des guerres, elles ont toujours été entachées, dans les deux camps en conflit, par des crimes et des injustices... Mais, lors du premier procès de ce type, celui des nationaux-socialistes allemands, à Nuremberg, nous avons vu siéger sur la haute estrade, en arbitres immaculés, les responsables d'une justice qui, durant ces années-là , envoya à la torture, au poteau d'exécution ou à la mort lente, dans son propre pays, des dizaines de millions de vies innocentes.Et si l'on fait la distinction entre la mort des militaires, toujours inévitable au cours d'une guerre, et le massacre en masse des populations civiles, quel nom donner à ceux qui brûlèrent en quelques minutes, dans la seule ville d'Hiroshima, 140 000 paisibles habitants, en prétendant se justifier, dans une formule ahurissante, par le souci de "conserver en vie leurs soldats" Bin Laden too justifies his crimes by evoking Hiroshima.And Hitler justified his by asking the well-know rhetorical question: "Who remembers the Armenians?" quote: ? Mais ce président-là et son entourage ne furent pas  traduits en jugement, ils s'éteignirent au contraire avec une auréole d'honorables vainqueurs. Et quel nom donner... à ceux qui, la victoire étant déjà assurée, envoyèrent, deux jours et deux nuits durant, des armadas aériennes brûler la magnifique ville de Dresde, toute civile et bourrée de paisibles réfugiés ?En notre siècle qui connaît un tel épanouissement de la pensée juridique, comment ne pas voir que les lois internationales pondérées qui châtieraient équitablement les criminels, indépendamment -indépendamment ! - de la défaite ou de la victoire de leur camp, ces lois ne sont pas encore  fabriquées, pas encore reconnues par l'ensemble de l'humanité ? (Alexandre Soljénitsyne, déclaration faite en 1994, à l'occasion du  bicentenaire de la guerre de vendée). Solzhenitsyn has had his share of critics too. But here i go again arguing with someone who knows and understand everything....Sorry, i didn't mean to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Dear Ara, quote:i am afraid there are some wild generalities here but it is my impression that you are so infatuated with your own views and expertise that are not open to counter-arguments.On the contrary, I am open to any counter-arguments but I'd like to see those based on valid historical facts and not "wild generalities" as you put it . An intellectual or writer has an immense responsibility with respect to his readers and has to be rigorous in his judgements. Do you realize the nefarious consequences of false ideas being propagated in society? Isn't that what the twentieth century with all its atrocities is all about? Lies and deception. Minor alterations of the truth result in complete untruths being spread. Isn't that perspective horrifying when you think about it? I personaly do not participate in discussions of topics I am not familiar with. That is why when I speak, people get the impression I am infatuated with my views because usually I have enough knowledge to defend my point and I tend to stick to it, unless faced with solid arguments. On the other hand, when I am ignorant or not at ease with a particular topic, I choose to remain silent. quote:Bin Laden too justifies his crimes by evoking Hiroshima.And Hitler justified his by asking the well-know rhetorical question: "Who remembers the Armenians?"I wonder whether you actually understand french. This text is not about justifying any crime. On the contrary it is about condemning all of them including those hypocritically committed in the name of freedom... It is about asking for equal justice for both the victors and the losers. You raised the issue of war crime trials. Soljenitsyne makes the observation that no tribunal was setup for the ones who destroyed Hiroshima and Dresden. And he notes that international laws that would condemn criminals on both sides have not yet been defined. Can you possibly disagree with him, in all honesty? [ February 25, 2003, 11:09 PM: Message edited by: axel ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Wednesday, February 26, 2003*******************************Never argue with someone whose spirit of contradiction exceeds his IQ.*At the beginning was the word; at the end hooligans.*Mumbo jumbo is not conducive to dialogue.*To describe is not to explain and to explain is not to justify. If we say, Armenians are good and Turks bad, we must also explain what is it exactly that makes them good or bad? What are the motivating factors? And even more to the point: Who does the assessing and what is it exactly that motivates him to assess?*The more you plan and the more sure you are of the outcome, the more you increase the probability of disappointing and failure. That’s because, very much like an Armenian, reality has a highly developed spirit of contradiction.*I write for people who hate to read. Result: even those who hate me read me.*I am not critical of Armenians, only of charlatans and bloodsuckers some of whom identify themselves as Armenian.*It is not smart to assess oneself as smart.*You cannot flatter a smart man by calling him smart. It is different with a fool.*It is written: "Politics makes strange bedfellows." It is also written: "If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas."*Trying to change reality without understanding it is like feeding a tiger salads in the hope he will survive as a vegetarian; or reasoning with a barbarian in the hope he will behave in a civilized manner (some say this is exactly what we tried to do a hundred years ago in the Ottoman Empire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Thursday, February 27, 2003*******************************In a letter to the editor in our local paper I read the following: "For ever ‘axis of evil’ there is also an ‘axis of weasels’ that use weasel words to misrepresent their self-interest as altruism."*Once you choose the path of ignorance you will become an addict who will need increasingly larger doses.*Whether we like it or not we all bear the scars of Ottoman inhumanity and Armenian incompetence.*A Chinese proverb that I just made up: "If you have the brain of a rat, do not entertain the ambitions of a dragon."*Never judge an Armenian by his critics or brown-nosers.*To utter nonsense, to be a fanatic, to act stupid: these things have nothing to do with patriotism.*Why is it that after a man assesses himself as smart he feels fully authorized to act stupid?*Overheard on the radio this morning: "Lose your mind and come to your senses." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by nairi:... Formal education, regardless of its nationality, is there to systematically brainwash us. I hope you know that.Hmmm ... next thing you're going to tell me that "Grade Point Average" is not a sign of intelligence and that standardized tests are biased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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