Arpa Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Does this sound "alien/odar/otar"? Has anyone seen this name used? Probably not, since it is stated below that it has fallen out of use. OTAR From Turkish otar "pasture" i.e. "shepherd" which was used till XIX c. In Georgia it is still in use. The corresponding surname is Otaryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaheet Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hi people, Arsen it comes from greek: male, man viril. And Karen is iranian origin. Vazken is a diminutive of "frog" persian too... Zaven it means: helper, assistant (persian). Khoren: small sun, persian too. I never heared Arine but Ari or Arin; Ari: Brave, Fearless; and Arin probably "Ariun" (Blood). Suren: Strong, Powerful. It's Pahlavi. Papgen it means father (persian) About the termination "-uhi" let me check it, I have a interenting articule (in armenian) about it... --------- Shirag. images/smiles/converted/icon_cool.gif What about Nejdeh and Vrezh? I know "Vrezh" means "revenge" (it's my father's name)(sometimes spelled Vrej)- what about Nejdeh? Also, do you know the origin of Harand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaheet Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 does anyone know what do names Astghik and Anahit mean??? i defenatly do not consider them to be weird names!!! Asghtrik (my great-aunt's name) means roughly the same as Esther: star Anahit was the ancient Persian/Armenian version of Astarte/Ashtoreth/Aphrodite. The goddess of love and fertility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaheet Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 es forumn imn e, es thredn imn e, thredum topic, topicum anun, es ov e yekel tiratsel takun. -------------------- BA?!?! -------------------- Et yes em yes savarnel Ko forumin diratsel Kisher-tsereg ser adzel Siro ashugh em tartsel images/smiles/converted/wobble.gif images/smiles/converted/wobble.gif images/smiles/converted/wobble.gif Ok...I'm embarrassed to ask but I'll ask anyway...could somebody translate? I caught about four words, maybe five... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaheet Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 my great-grandfathers name was Movses - Moses - he was born in Waqef - (Village in MusaLer) - just like any Musalertsy my great-grandfather also had a Nick name, most of the time nick name was used in the Village instead of the name, like Ftuzents Fsoo, Yabanjui Manuk, my great-grandfathers Nick name was Chlder Musa ( Crazy Musa-Movses ), when giving surnames, for some crazy reason the person who was documenting the names, have used my great-grandfathers Nick name us our new surnames, Chlderyan ( Like G@joyan in ARmenian ) , we have changed our surname in Armenia, To Movsisyan, just like many other Armenians who did not need a turkish element in their surnames. My great-great-grandfather was Popik Simonik (Barefoot Simon) since he never wore shoes, apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaheet Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 and Ambakum in the Armenian. In Septuagint and Vulgate (whatever the hell they mean) the name is Ambacum. And The Septuagint is the oldest translation of the Old Testament extant. It's a translation into Greek. "Septuagint" refers to "seventy"- it is traditionally believed that there were seventy translators. The Septuagint is the text that the Christian Church originally used for its Old Testament- the Orthodox Church still uses it. It would not surprise me if the Grabar text of the Old Testament was translated from the Septuagint. The Vulgate is the Latin Vulgate, translated from the Greek Septuagint into the commonly used Latin of the day (400s, I believe) by St. Jerome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Both Arsen and Karen are pagan Persian names. After Iran became Muslim this names simply disapeared. But they became very common in Armenia because of the Persian-Armenian cultural ties during the pagan ages. style_images/master/snapback.png According to the following website: http://www.excessories.org/bonnefete/prenoms/a/arsene.html "Arsene" is from the Greek "arsenias" - viril - and "arsenios" - male! "Arsene" is also used in France. The famous Arsene Lupin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artur8188 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 hay you musalertsi, ask your papik if he knows gioumbalyan family. and neverd what does that mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 hay you musalertsi, ask your papik if he knows gioumbalyan family. and neverd what does that mean. style_images/master/snapback.png it will be looong tiem till i see him but will PM you wan i do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Ok - so, I recently ran across a very strange surname (by NA standards anyway). "Klitorian", or I guess pertaining to the family of 'Klitor" - is there something to the obvious phonetic similarity with the latin "clitoris"? Could someone actually be named after a female erogenous zone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 their grandpa must have either been the village gigolo or an OBGYN specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 their grandpa must have either been the village gigolo or an OBGYN specialist. style_images/master/snapback.png vay Azat I have come across many wired Armenian sernames, like Bozikian Dzvakerian Shanporikian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Shanporikian style_images/master/snapback.png That's the best one yet! Just imagine an English person with a name like Dogsbellyson! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 (edited) Arsen is also used in Chechnya, Dagestan, and Kabardino-Balkaria, as far as I know! It seems to be a pan-Caucasian name. I think there is a consensus that it's Persian-derived? BTW, I like that name. Question: Who can tell me what the meaning of 'iants' or 'yants' is as the ending of an Armenian surname? Someone once told me it was indicative of nobility. Is this true? style_images/master/snapback.png Arsen or Arsenio has Latin/Greek roots, the last name Sanchez is derived from that name, same goes with Armenians calling Sanch to some Arsens. Edited September 20, 2005 by kakachik77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 ok... make up your mind people... Arsen... is it persian or greek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Arsen is Indo-Persian, but nothing beats 'Klitorian'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 ok... make up your mind people... Arsen... is it persian or greek? style_images/master/snapback.png The following is from here, Thanks MosJan; http://armenian.name/index.php?a=term&d=1&t=309 ARSEN From Greek arsen which means "strong', "manly"(Latin Arsenius, French Arsene, Russian Arseniy etc.). It is in use now as well as the corresponding surname Arsenyan. No matter where one looks it points to Greek. Many entries of Arsenius, St. Arsenius etc. Some will direct us to Arsenic, that highly poisonous metal. My dictionary says it is from the Greek word “arsenikus” meaning strong, masculine. And when I looked up “arsenal” which is explained as a storage of weapons. Even if the source attributes it to Greek it stops there, yet one can see the connection of “strong” as an arsenal is a fortified stronghold. I was also pleasantly surprised where the dictionary says the word is used by the Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, English etc. it also includes Armenian. Who can tell if the Greeks took it from Persian or visa versa?? It is all “Greek to me” anyway! :) BTW. The Arm. Encycl. has Arsen simply as an entry for Arsenic., and it does say that it is derived from the Geek to mean "arnakan, ouzhegh". Here is a bonus for you the Armenian word for Asenic is "mkndegh"/մկնդեղ i.e. mouse drug/poison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Ok - so, I recently ran across a very strange surname (by NA standards anyway). "Klitorian", or I guess pertaining to the family of 'Klitor" - is there something to the obvious phonetic similarity with the latin "clitoris"? Could someone actually be named after a female erogenous zone?? style_images/master/snapback.png Vava: You're just making it up. Right? Or else you're a big jester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Vava: You're just making it up. Right? Or else you're a big jester. style_images/master/snapback.png No no! She's real! Her first name is Arsineh (which fits in perfectly with this thread ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Lendrosh, Leninian Droshag. Levon Abrahamian claims that the original version was Lentrosh, Lenin, Tortsky, Shahumian. After the Trotsky-Stalin schism it was changed to Lendrosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karapet Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Սողոմոն , Թորգոմ, Պողոս Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 կարապետ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 կարապետ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 (edited) Պողոս Edited October 10, 2006 by Boghos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 կարապետ... :) Karapet, carapet, garabed means camel driver, oughtapan/ուղտապան,oughtapah/ուղտապահ, caravan master. Or, if you would rather- mule driver, jorepan/ջորեպան. See his picture here; http://camelphotos.com/GraphicsP7/BactrianPacking.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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