Varduhi Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 hey everyone i would like to know what you think about converting from one Religion to another? and WHY SOME PEOPLE CONVERT FROM ONE RELIGION TO ANOTHER? I think its act to betrayal toward your own faith wich i think is very disrespectful and WRONG. Plus i think if you even you hate or cant stand your own religion it doesnt mean you have to change it. I think if someone hates their own religion then, they should stop believing to their religion. BUT IT DOESNT MEAND YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR OWN FAITH. This is what i think but we all have different point of view on this topic. bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Dear Vartuhi Why do we need “religion” in general?????I think the world would have been a better place in one can believe in him/her self first rather then someone’s fiction of imagination.Most recently I have learned that pop star Madonna has converted into Judaism, now I don’t think converting to some religion will make you a better person or a human being!! will it? No, it makes you look like you are running from your self.Instead we should believe our selfs, to one another, nature, and nature of things.For me there is no graither religion then to believe one another. If Jesus could have paid us a visit, I have no doubt he would have run right back, seeing what a mess we have created. Won’t you agree?? Best wishes, peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Everyone must decide these things for themselves. Who is anyone to say that another is wrong in their choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 quote:Most recently I have learned that pop star Madonna has converted into JudaismYes, I suspected so, since that tatoo on her right arm looked like three hebrew letters, clearly seen in her latest video "Die another day". Does anyone know what the three hebrew letters mean or stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Got the answer, u guys might find it interesting too: quote:Madonna's tattoo on her arm says 'LAV' in Hebrew letters. 'LAV' in Hebrew means “not”- representing the 10 commandments “shall not…” The tattoo represents all her sins. It’s a mark, like the Mark of Cain. The leather band she wraps around her left arm 7 times is called 'Tefillin' (or phylacteries). Every Jewish man who reaches the age of 13 and a day has to put them on every morning during the Morning Prayer. It is important to stress that only men put them on, men and Madonna that is… In the video there’s a struggle between the White Madonna and the Black Madonna- good vs. evil (just to get the point through that it is a James Bond theme song..). The Black Madonna seems much stronger in the beginning- but once she puts on the 'Tefillin' and thereby cleans her sole, the White Madonna takes over. The White Madonna kills the Black Madonna right when the executioners turn the electric chair on. Her executioners walk in and see that she managed to escape from the electric chair. She got to a certain spiritual level in which she didn’t need to be punished anymore- her sole was clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 Didn't know whether to post this in religion or humour...but I think it says something concerning taking our religion too seriously... Dateline: Arkansas City, Arkansas - 11/20/2002 (THIS WOULD BE IN A CATEGORY WAY BEYOND 'RIPLEY'SBELIEVE IT OR NOT! SEE IF YOU AGREE...RON) ASSOCIATED PRESSA Little Rock woman was killed yesterday after leaping through her moving car's sun roof during an incident best described as "a mistaken rapture" by dozens of eye witnesses. Thirteen other people were injured after a twenty-car pile up resulted from people trying to avoid hittingthe woman who was apparently convinced that the rapture was occurring when she saw twelve people floating up into the air, and then passed a man on the side of the road who she claimed was Jesus. "She started screaming "He's back, He's back" and climbed right out of the sunroof and jumped off the roof of the car," said Everet Williams, husband of 28-year-old Georgann Williams who was pronounced dead at the scene. "I was slowing down but she wouldn't wait till I stopped," Williams said. She thought the rapture was happening and was convinced that Jesus was gonna lift her up into the sky," he went on to say. "This is the strangest thing I've seen since I've been on the force," said Paul Madison, first trooper on the scene. Madison questioned the man wholooked like Jesus and discovered that he was dressed up as Jesus and was on his way to a toga costume party when the tarp covering the bed ofhis pickup truck came loose and released twelve blow up sex dolls filled with helium which floated up into the air. Ernie Jenkins, 32, of Fort Smith, who's been told by several of his friends that he looks like Jesus, pulled over and lifted his arms into the air in frustration, and said "Come back here," just as the Williams' car passed him, and Mrs. Williams was sure that it was Jesus liftingpeople up into the sky as they passed by him, according to her husband, who says his wife loved Jesus more than anything else. When asked forcomments about the twelve sex dolls, Jenkins replied "This is all just too weird for me. I never expected anything like this to happen." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 If someone changes religion that means the old religion was not satisfying. That also means (hopefully) the convert has found something really needed and fulfilling. So that's a good thing. On the other hand, no religion is perfect, and all major religions are good enough for spiritual development. So if someone has voluntarily converted from one major religion to another he/she was not spiritual in the old religion otherwise would have found what was needed. By major religions I mean Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism, Islam, Judaism (probably Sikh and others also, hope I am not missing anything else, there could be others). If one is really religious in any of these religions it would be hard to convert without having the feeling of betrayal. It is really not a good thing IMO, although, it goes without saying that everyone has the right to freely choose any belief system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 If someone changes religion that means the old religion was not satisfying. Sometimes "satisfying" in the sense that he or she couldn't marry the other person and thus ... bham, change religion and all is solved. It's suddenly OK for the two to get it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 By the way, THOTH I just saw the story ... ROFLMFAO!!!!! That's tooooo funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 As far as I am concerned the only people who convert willingly without coercion or force are thos who still believe there is magic in religion. And when they can't see that magic in their own religion or become disillusioned for a variety of reasons such as ehen God does not answer their prayers the way they want Him to they look for that mgic in other religions.Same gobbledigook, maybe in another language, but still the same. Also, many return when they realize there is no magic there either.My main defense when they knock on my door to convert is; "I have religion up to here, I don't need any more nonsense". As Armenians we have had too much religion already, it is their turn now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Sometimes "satisfying" in the sense that he or she couldn't marry the other person and thus ... bham, change religion and all is solved. It's suddenly OK for the two to get it on Yeah, I didn't think about that . That could also happen I guess there is neither gain nor loss in this type of conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Knight Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Madonna is into kaballah, some perverted jewish spiritual ritualistic religion, not mainstream judaism. I used to be an atheist, even though I was raised a Protestant but these days i'm rediscovering my Christian roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 What if a Christian marries into a Jewish family. Do you think it's possible to practice both religions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 What if a Christian marries into a Jewish family. Do you think it's possible to practice both religions. I never heard of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I never heard of that happening. I have, and they celebrate both holidays, equally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I have, and they celebrate both holidays, equally... Oh, that? I wish we all had to celebrate the holidays of all big and small religions, we would have many days off I understood your question differently. Other than the holidays, can they really practice both religions? I mean, can a Jew worship Christ and still be a Jew? Or a Christian get a circumstision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Oh, that? I wish we all had to celebrate the holidays of all big and small religions, we would have many days off We all wish that, I mean, can a Jew worship Christ and still be a Jew? Or a Christian get a circumstision?I see what you mean now, oops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arad9 Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 I think people believe because they think what they believe is the truth, if you reliaze what you believe is wrong then why not change?many christians who have real difficult time with moral problems in their life choose to become athiest so they don't feel responsible for their decisions and can't carry the burden of sin for there actions. when these people try to knock on my door and tell me and my kids that it's ok for you to do whatever you want and there are no consequences for their actions. i would tell them i've had it up to here with this nonsense.I think one of the great successess Turkey has acomplished is to have the Armenians disbelieve and discredit the Armenian Church. Teutonic Knight what is your christian root Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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