TELETHON TELL- A- LIE-A-THON

[Arpa]

TELETHON or TELL-A-LIE-A-THON

How long must this FRAUDULANT FARCE go on?

How long must WE be the DONORS and THEY the BEGGARS?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chapman/5749505/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/155609..._56bca3b45a.jpg

How about, now that they have mehmet’s guarantee of open bordres and prosperity? They be the “donors” and we the “recipients”?

It has been over 20 years of this farce. There was a time I would be angry when some of my American born Armenian friends would grumble, saying- “ Our churches are in deficit, we are closing one school after another…Is it not time Yerevan hold ‘telethons’ and subsidize us“? They must have been wiser than I.

It is that time of year again, when every diasporan Armenian, all the way avanakistan to zulustan will hold telethons to raise monies for Yerevan Province. Many will deny Halloween costumes for their children, others, specially those America will forego that “bird” and instead donate their hard earned pennies, denying their children Christmas toys and new shoes.

Less than two weeks ago Mr. Serge was touring the Diaspora wearing a helmet http://www.bulletproofme.com/new%20downloa...MICH-Helmet.JPG to deflect verbal and possibly physical missiles TELLING-A-LIE. And, today he replaces the “helmet” with a “hat in hand/tin cup” http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/t/tin_cup.asp

once again begging for the Diaspora’s “lumas”, all the way from Rumania to Russia. Where was he for the past few years when TELETHONS were being held year after year, while THEY were lowering their pants to mehmet? Did not those “diasporan telethoning suckers” deserve to know what was going on behind closed doors? When all those hard earned pennies of the Diaspora were lining the pockets of the bureaucrats with not even a penny of it reaching the poor people?

How many diasporas sleep in luxury hotels night after night? When is the last time he slept on a straw /խշտեակmattress? I did. In the most luxurious hotel of the time, Hotel Armenia #1.

http://www.armenianow.com/?action=viewArti...258&lng=eng

http://www.armenianow.com/images/uploadedimages/ai418601.jpg

When the Diaspora was sticking to their “guns”, they were selling us “lock, stock and barrel”.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/P217.jpg

Observe that the cliché comes from the description of a musket, where in time the “stock, lock and barrel” have been reversed . (See what Sir Walter Scott wrote. Left to right, the stock is the wooden part, the lock is the mechanism and the barrel is the metal pipe.

Lock, stock, and barrel is a merism used predominantly in the United Kingdom and North America meaning 'all', 'total', 'everything'.

The term itself may derive from the components of a musket[citation needed]: the 'lock' being the firing mechanism, 'stock' being the wooden butt-end of the gun, and 'barrel' being the cylindrical component, concurring 'all' the components of the gun. Another interpretation could be business related: i.e., one would own "the lock" as in the building, stock as in the stock exchange, investments, etc., and "barrel" as in all inventory,

History

The term was first recorded in the letters of Sir Walter Scott in 1817, in the line "Like the High-landman's gun, she wants stock, lock, and barrel, to put her into repair".[citation needed] It is, however, thought that this term evolved into a popular saying some years before in England

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[Z'areh]

Not a penny until the people of Armenia has at least a semblance of having a say in who gets elected, and have some hope of electing a parliamentarian that talks on their behalf.

 

If that does not change and Armenia continues to be governed by successive "all-national den of thieves" parties , then no money raised anywhere will ever make a difference.

 

If that is what Armenians in Armenia wish then that is what they get. Nothing!

 

Yesterday I heard the views, if you can call them "views", of an individual called Tsarukian, who heads a so-called party with an ideology of stealing from the public, the man couldn't even muster up an ability to be put together a single comprehensive sentence, he even could not understand a simple question posed to him. Let this ex- arm-wrestling champion who has managed to get elected and is now part of the government, give some of his millions to the All Armenian fund.

 

I am giving nothing this year. ziltch!

 

Imagine how much the President can contribute if he didn't loose so much in gambling in European casinos.

 

god-damn bullshitters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Arpa]

Not a penny

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I am giving nothing this year. ziltch!

 

Imagine how much the President can contribute if he didn't loose so much in gambling in European casinos.

 

god-damn bullshitters.

Right!!!

Let's see how many pennies, cut away from their "starving" mouths will the Diaspora, aka "cash cow"/apoush kov" ** donate this year. Now that, after so many years of the campaign by mehmet to alienate the Diaspora from the Homeland had failed, and now all of a sudden with the stroke of a pen of the so called "protocols" we have done the job for mehmet.

Yes, Zareh, not even a fart(h)ing*** of mine either

** http://www.dailyyonder.com/files/u2/cow-udder510.jpg

*** Farthing=1/4 of a penny.

http://www.theshopmuseum.org/USERIMAGES/fa...g%5B1%5D(1).jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farthing_(British_coin)

 

 

 

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[Arpa]

Tell -a- lie- a -thon?

No.

Tell- a- few-more-lies- a- thon.

No pre-conditions? Then what do these lies mean?

#4. No compromise on the so called Kars Treaty, "territorial integrity".

#3. No compromise on Artsakh.

#2. No so called “historical commission”.

And the biggest of them all…Remember this?

#1. “I WILL NOT ATTEND THE FOOTBALL MATCH UNLESS THE BORDER IS OPENED”!!!

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[Anoushik]

I'm curious. Do any of you have relatives, friends, or close acquaintances in Armenia that you have kept in touch with over the past 10 years?

[Z'areh]

I'm curious. Do any of you have relatives, friends, or close acquaintances in Armenia that you have kept in touch with over the past 10 years?

 

What would be your view if I say yes.

 

What would be your view if I say no.

 

[Anoushik]

What would be your view if I say yes.

 

What would be your view if I say no.

Well, I am aware that most relatives that we have in Armenia are not, and have never been, happy or accepting of their living standards there. But throughout the years, through conversations and being updated of their lives one cannot deny the fact that progress has been made, albeit slowly. I was just curious to know if you have made similar observations? We are talking about pure objective observations (which is very hard to do, I know).

 

Example of progress:

-moving to better location/town/city

-moving to a better home

-going to college (my cousin is studying in the medical school on full scholarship, solely based on his grades and talents, and we have no connection to authority)

-getting a job

-opening business/operating business

-planning for the future

 

These are things that simply were not conceived of 10, 15 years ago. I am not living in dreamland and thinking that things are very good in Armenia; that is simply not true. But we cannot deny the fact that despite the circumstances (and we all know what they are) progress has been made.

[Azat]

Well, I am aware that most relatives that we have in Armenia are not, and have never been, happy or accepting of their living standards there. But throughout the years, through conversations and being updated of their lives one cannot deny the fact that progress has been made, albeit slowly. I was just curious to know if you have made similar observations? We are talking about pure objective observations (which is very hard to do, I know).

 

Example of progress:

-moving to better location/town/city

-moving to a better home

-going to college (my cousin is studying in the medical school on full scholarship, solely based on his grades and talents, and we have no connection to authority)

-getting a job

-opening business/operating business

-planning for the future

 

These are things that simply were not conceived of 10, 15 years ago. I am not living in dreamland and thinking that things are very good in Armenia; that is simply not true. But we cannot deny the fact that despite the circumstances (and we all know what they are) progress has been made.

 

 

AMEN. thank you Anushik jan. Everything you said is very very true

 

[Arpa]

Dear Anushik and Azat, I did not quite follow your logic.

Yes Yerevan is not the one even 10 or 15 ago, a cause for celebration. At my first visit we aere advised to bring flashlights and lots of fresh batteries, I’m glad we did. At the time people were standing in line at te one bakery on Amirian street, Abovian street was in shambles, more hungry stray dogs than people, now both streets are lined with high fashion chic boutiques. At night the city was in total darkness, all street lights were out, not even lights out of windows. I remember one night we were walking from a point to the hotel in total darkness, the streets were totally abandoned, we being the only fools walking, the flashlights came handy, even then we were walking like blind people feeling the ground with our feet lest we fall into an abysmal** pothole. To corroborate your comments, during my latest visit the city would be lit like a Christmas tree when the lights would be seen all the way to Ararat.

However my point above was totally overlooked. This is not to say that all this happened with the Diasporan “telethon” pennies. If Mr. Sargisian and Ms. Hakobian spend a little less for their “tourism” and sleeping in posh hotels, eined and dined at extravagant caviar and filet mignon dinner parties….when more than half the people are “living”? in so called houses with windows covered with cardboard…the wind entering in one window and out the other…

It is even eerier to see what we wrote exactly one year ago Oct. 28,2008

How long will this ՄԻ ՔԻՉ ՓՈՂ ՈՒՂԱՐԿԷ continue?;

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18808

And as to “helmets and hats”, here is a cartoon that tells like it is.

http://www.blackcommentator.com/57/57_cart...billion_pf.html

 

**See the meaning of "abyss" in the language section. Why was Ethiopia was formerly known as Abyssinia/ՀԱՊԷՇԻՍՏԱՆ?

Edited October 29, 2009 by Arpa

[Azat]

Arpa I have said it before that Im against the telethon as well... I just am not a big fan of a country begging for money... however one cannot overlook the improvements that have been made.

 

Ans I have to say that we think that it all because of diaspora money and all that but reality is that we make a very little difference. its mostly in house growth...

[Arpa]

Once again my main message is being manipulated and corrupted.

Yes dear Azat, I understand you.

Did we not talk about “farthing” one quarter of a penny.?

Yes, the diaspora may have contributed less than a “farthing”, keeping the rest of the “dollars” in their back pockets “vorik dramabanak”, but how can one confuse the “heart of the diaspora” with their “dramabanak of the vorik”?

I have contributed to those so called “telethons” even when I can’t afford to buy underwear to cover my own “vorik” when the likes Mr. Sagisian and company are wearing Italian made suits.

When they are “spitting in the face”

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=13533&hl=spit

 

[Anoushik]

Arpa and Azat, we don't really know how the progress came about, if it was truly because of diaspora money, or because of just the residents themselves, or a combination of both, or us sending money to individual relatives and them spending it, etc... We can't dwell on what ifs. The important thing is that the country bloomed. And can we really deny that a hospital, a school, a street, got renovated with the donation money? Even if just one school improved because of Armenia-Fund, then I'm all for the telethon.

 

Azat, I don't see it as a country begging for money. I see it as a group of people - who are supposedly so homesick as to write poetry and music about their homesickness and desire to see their homeland exist and thrive - help, and in the process feel good about themselves that they helped. So, those of you who don't want to do that, it's fine. But don't prevent others from doing it.

 

[Arpa]

Arpa and Azat, we don't really know how the progress came about, if it was truly because of diaspora

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Azat, I don't see it as a country begging for money. I see it as a group of people - who are supposedly so homesick as to write poetry and music about their homesickness and desire to see their homeland exist and thrive - help, and in the process feel good about themselves that they helped. So, those of you who don't want to do that, it's fine. But don't prevent others from doing it.

Yes Sirounik Anushik.

Remember this "homesickness/nostalgia"? Substitute "Kilikia with'kilijan/Dilijan Kanaker".

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18737&hl=kilikia

Why do Diasporan ARMENIANS need to pay $100.00 for entry visa and $90.00 for an exit?

What is the definition of "ëxtortion"? Why is it that diasporans must pay $200.00 for bedbug infested hotel room that in America go for $20.00 a night? What is the definition of a "dreamful ïdealistic idiot"?

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[Anoushik]

The what should we do, dear Arpa, give up?

[Arpa]

The what should we do, dear Arpa, give up?

How about STOP LYING AND BEGGING.

When Dodi Gago can buy a Bulgarian company for 25 million Euros

http://hetq.am/en/economy/19910/

Why are we still holding telethons?

 

 

[Azat]

Arpa and Azat, we don't really know how the progress came about, if it was truly because of diaspora money, or because of just the residents themselves, or a combination of both, or us sending money to individual relatives and them spending it, etc... We can't dwell on what ifs. The important thing is that the country bloomed. And can we really deny that a hospital, a school, a street, got renovated with the donation money? Even if just one school improved because of Armenia-Fund, then I'm all for the telethon.

 

Azat, I don't see it as a country begging for money. I see it as a group of people - who are supposedly so homesick as to write poetry and music about their homesickness and desire to see their homeland exist and thrive - help, and in the process feel good about themselves that they helped. So, those of you who don't want to do that, it's fine. But don't prevent others from doing it.

 

I have to disagree with the comment that its not a country begging. Which is my biggest issue with the telethon. When the president of the country talks about it, the face of the country, its the country begging.

 

To be honest i dont know of any other country holding a telethon.

[Arpa]

I have to disagree with the comment that its not a country begging. Which is my biggest issue with the telethon. When the president of the country talks about it, the face of the country, its the country begging.

 

To be honest i dont know of any other country holding a telethon.

Azat, you must have been reading my mind.

When I was writing the above post, all those thoughts were dancing in my head. I was thinking of all the ethnic groups in America, you name them. Yes they have at times held “telethons” when the need was there, the Irish come to mind, who during the “troubles” would hold fundraisings, mostly to buy weapons and some welfare. Look at them now. Who is funding whom? Ireland is one of the most prosperous countries not only in Europe but the world.

Look who is funding the anti_Armenian campaigns, and where it is coming from. Is the furkish diaspora subsidizing ankara or…?. Do you think the Irish diaspora would still support them if they were fleeing the country. See the reports about “Armenia has lost 1 million (1/3) of its population during these 20 years“, and they are still fleeing, to shovel gold on the streets of Glendale. If they only knew that the Glendalians work 20 hours a day, seven days a week sometimes holding 3 jobs, they don’t have khorvats and oghi parties 3 times a day. Azat and Azatouhi, be they in Glendale or Galveston sleep only 3 hours every 3 days.

In the aftermath of the disaster, be they natural (earthquake)or man made (war), many disporans wished they could adopt those orphaned one year olds and take them out of the misery. I personally was opposed to taking anyone out, except maybe for a short stay for special need, and there seemed to be perhaps an unwritten law against taking people out , rather “sponsor a child” programs were established. And now, those one year olds of yesteryear are 20 something, they are fleeing the country like rats in a sinking ship. The whole idea if telethons was to assist the country, to rebuild the infrastucture, rebuild the schools, subsidize the teachers, rebuild the hospitals subsidize the healthcare workers, rebuild the churches… and so on. Who built the St. Illuminator Cathedral in Yerevan?

Now, it seems the telethon funds are being used by those 20 somethings to obtain a passport and buy a visa to…. You name the country, including that hellhole to “west(Armenia?)”.

I can tell many stories about begging “hat in hand”** , but I will spare us, maybe some other time.

Shall we continue to hold telethons until the entire country is vacated except, maybe for a few bureaucrats and mafiosi???

Speaking of “begging”. For the last 100 years we have been begging to mehmet “please, please, please acknowledge your sinful crimes”, and now we are once again begging to “please, please, please open the borders , we’ll give you anything you want”!!!

** To show that this "mendicantism"*** is not a new phnomenon, some day I will tell you what about the “scandals” in Syria and Lebanon in 60’s when we first saw the National Ensembles of Song and Dance. I wonder if Yervant remembers those days.

*** Some day I will write about the origins of words like "mendicant" and «մուրացկան»

Edited October 30, 2009 by Arpa

[Em]

How about STOP LYING AND BEGGING.

When Dodi Gago can buy a Bulgarian company for 25 million Euros

http://hetq.am/en/economy/19910/

Why are we still holding telethons?

 

Not just a water bottling company but also Western Armenia.

 

 

Will Gagik Tsarukian buy Western Armenia?

«A1Plus.am», 04:37 pm | Today | Politics

 

"If Gagik Tsarukian wishes, he will buy the whole Western Armenia," member of the Propserous Armenia Party (BHK) Naira Zohrabian told A1+ during today's parliamentary briefing.

 

A1+ wondered whether Turkey's concerns that Armenians might buy Turkish lands after the Armenian-Turkish frontier opening were grounded.

 

Asked whether the Armenian leadership strives to return Western Armenia, ARF-Dashnaktsutiun Leader Vahan Hovhannisian said: "As such, the authorities can, but our authorities cannot. Besides, Turkish laws will not allow Armenian businessmen to buy lands; hence our oligarch-deputies cannot easily go to Turkey and buy lands."

 

BHK Secretary Aram Safarian says three years ago a leading Turkish automobile company announced a tender. Russia-based Armenian businessman Ruben Vardanian expressed readiness to purchase the company for 2 milliard dollars. Turkey's Safety Council immediately called a special sitting and decided not to sell the company to the Armenian businessman as it might endanger the country's national security.

 

Further on, Mr. Safarian recalled another example. "In the 80s a U.S.-based Armenian businessman reportedly bought a hotel in Van. After the local Turks learnt who the potential buyer was, they made him leave the area. I am confident that if any company is put up for sale in Armenia, the National Security Council and political forces will convene serious discussions on the deal. I am convinced that Armenia's legislative field needs further improvement to be able to compete with a stronger economy like Turkey's," says Aram Safarian.

 

Leader of the Republican faction Galust Sahakian announced that "our lands will be finally returned to their real owners."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.a1plus.am/en/politics/2009/10/3...tional-assembly

[Arpa]

Dear EM, we love you.

I think your post best belongs under the Subject Topic of Humor-Comedistan.

[Arpa]

Azat, you must have been reading my mind.

When I was writing ...

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** To show that this "mendicantism"*** is not a new phnomenon, some day I will tell you what about the “scandals” in Syria and Lebanon in 60’s when we first saw the National Ensembles of Song and Dance. I wonder if Yervant remembers those days.

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As promised, here is the story of that “scandal”.

After so may years of Leninism and Stalinism, several years after the latter’s death, in the early sixties Yerevan decided to show the Diaspora their cultural achievements. Mind you, this was also a propaganda campaign to neutralize the so called “Dashnak” Diaspora, and it was the incubation of the so called “Armenia-Diaspora Friendship Committee”. (See the “Ministry of Diaspora” of late).

The first exports were not “tufa stone”or Tsirani hiut” but the National Song and Dance Ensemble under the direction of Tatul Altunian. They were so nostalgically welcomed, with 90 year olds to suckling babies filling the theaters, dancing and weeping with nostalgia at times. All the hugs and kisses, all the nostalgic tears could have re-filled the Lake Sevan.

Not so much in Aleppo, but in Beirut, the artists and performers were invited into the houses, wined and dined as they had never seen before. They were also invited into the stores of the Armenian artisans and merchants, be they shoe stores, clothing stores, goldsmiths jewelers or watchmakers. Every where they went they were wined and dined, shoed** and clothed, adorned with gold and silver, given Longines and Rolexes.

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The story gets ugly so I'll stop here...

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Edited October 31, 2009 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Edit: I don't know why many of the below site graphics will not open. Will try agian when I repost it under Comedistan.

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[Azat]

As promised, here is the story of that “scandal”.

After so may years of Leninism and Stalinism, several years after the latter’s death, in the early sixties Yerevan decided to show the Diaspora their cultural achievements. Mind you, this was also a propaganda campaign to neutralize the so called “Dashnak” Diaspora, and it was the incubation of the so called “Armenia-Diaspora Friendship Committee”. (See the “Ministry of Diaspora” of late).

The first exports were not “tufa stone”or Tsirani hiut” but the National Song and Dance Ensemble under the direction of Tatul Altunian. They were so nostalgically welcomed, with 90 year olds to suckling babies filling the theaters, dancing and weeping with nostalgia at times. All the hugs and kisses, all the nostalgic tears could have re-filled the Lake Sevan.

Not so much in Aleppo, but in Beirut, the artists and performers were invited into the houses, wined and dined as they had never seen before. They were also invited into the stores of the Armenian artisans and merchants, be they shoe stores, clothing stores, goldsmiths jewelers or watchmakers. Every where they went they were wined and dined, shoed** and clothed, adorned with gold and silver, given Longines and Rolexes.

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The story gets ugly so I'll stop here...

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Arpa, in the 70s what did we call a symphony returning back to Armenia after a tour of foreign countries?

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Trio.

 

[Arpa]

Arpa, in the 70s what did we call a symphony returning back to Armenia after a tour of foreign countries?

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Trio.

You mean "touristo"? Not to mention the "troika" of "tsaristan (ras-Putin,) turkistan (mehmet) and (aliev) tataristan".

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[Arpa]

Of all the years this year there was hardly any reference and frenzy to the Telethon here at HyForum.

How many here watched, participated and contributed?

See that this year the fund was 55% lower than the year before..

Is it a general fatigue, disenchantment, an awakening after the initial giddy inebriated dream, when, after so many years and so many hard earned dollars and drams, more than half the population are still living in steel “domiks“and in so called houses with no glass windows and crumbling walls, while all those lumas and pennies are lining the pockets of a few oligarch administrators? Or is it that the Diaspora (read Dashnak) is finally realizing that they are taken for stupid “cash cows” with its “big dzidziks” running dry, specially with a global recession and the shrinking Dollar? Whish is the MOTHER- Land and which the “genocided” and orphaned CHILDREN? Is not the MOTHER supposed to have “big dzidziks” overflowing with milk and honey? ***

Is it because the Diaspora is finally realizing that all those funds, ostensibly meant to improve roads and highways, when still the majority of towns and villages don’t have a decent road to transport their blood and sweat fruits of their labor to the market?

Is it because the Diaspora is finally realizing that they have been lied and cheated all this time… brings to mind the latest BIGGEST LIE OF THEM ALL, that THERE ARE NO PRECONDIOTIONS IN THAT so called PROTOCOLS? That the present borders are recognized, that Artsakh is a matter of debate and that “history” will be reexamined, to see if they murdered 1.5 million of us or we murdered 3 million muslims?

What is next? To erect a memorial to those 3 millon muslims next to Tsitsernakaberd?

Dear Mr. President. TELL US ANOTHER LIE so next year we will rename the “telethon” a TELL A LIE- A -THON.

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http://www.armeniafundusa.org/news/20090831-year-of-shushi.htm

During the early 20th century, the Armenians of Shushi boasted a population of 45,000, seven churches, 22 newspapers and a public theatre. After the liberation of Shushi, many presumed that this history-making province would be reborn, attracting business investment and tourists, generating jobs, and building strong, robust communities. Despite the best of intentions, the rebirth of Shushi was a dream deferred.

At one time Shushi was a thriving city of 45,000, majority Armenians, with over , 22 newspapers, 7churches, a university and one of the biggest libraries. Today it has less than 3,000 inhabitants and getting less every day, may of which live in dilapidated shacks. When the whole saga started asserboobjan boasted with 7 million, today they number over 10 million, while Armenia boasted with 3 million, half of which are in Glendale and the other half are waiting for exit visas. No one knows how many they are now, with only two families remaining the Sargsyans and the Hcobyans, 1.5 million?

Tell us another lie!!!

Show us what YOU ARE DOING, maybe then WE WILL PARTICIPATE AND CHIP IN!!!

See the rest here;

http://hetq.am/en/society/21517/

2009 All-Armenia Telethon Raises $15.8 Million; a 55% Drop From 2008

[ 27 November, 2009 | 09:55 ] society

The 12th annual Hayastan All-Armenia Fund Telethon, dedicated to the rebuilding of Shushi, wrapped up at 8 am local Armenian time this morning. Raising a total of 15,875,043 in donations and pledges, this figure amounts to less than half the $35 million contributed last year…..

***We’ll get back to khashlama and khorvats

[Harut]

There are many legitimate reasons for one to lower the amount of their contribution or not donate at all this year. But I have absolutely no respect for those who bring the excuse of the protocols and elections for not donating. It tells me that those people have been contributing for a social status, acceptance, or to boast about it among their clique, and would rather give their blood than their penny. For those, the protocols and elections were blessing, because now they have an excuse for not contributing.