Should McCarthy be the next Turkish president ?

bellthecat · June 5, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by Domino:

"The Circassian soldiers ordered the Armenians to gather thorns and thistles to pile them into a tall pyramid; afterward they tied all of the Armenians who were there, almost five thousand souls, hand in hand, encircled them like a ring around the pile of thistles and thorns and set it afire in a blaze which rose up to the heavens together with the screams of the wretched people who were burned to death by the fire. I fled from the place, because I could not stand to see this horrifying sight..."

The flame of Nili, pp. 111 -15

In fairness to Circassian, and Circassians in general, I do not know of any massacres committed by Circassians in other parts of Turkey (such as the Kayseri area where Circasssian and Thornyrose come from). Do you? It seems mostly to be just in the Syrian region.

In Robert Jebedjian's book "a pictoral record of the routes of deportations" many of the murderers are described as Chechen, and they still have villages in the area.

Steve

June 6, 2001

In some parts Circassian immigrants took part of it, but they were new immigrants, and territory for their setlement has been given to them, but it was proper to other Muslims that were relocated in Armenian villages, and the manipation of hate against the Christian was easier with the Circassians and the Chechens after their expulsion by the Russians, a hate used by the Ottoman, after announcing an alleged Armenian union with Russia for "Christianity" and against Islam. The same kind of hate manipulations were used from the Balkan Muslims relocated in Armenian villages, when after what happened to them their hate against Christian was important, the government just manipulated this.

June 6, 2001

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REFERENCE

Armenians in Ottoman Documents

Chapter II- Summaries and Transcriptions of Documents (151 - 200)

151 - SETTLING THE FAMILIES OF CATHOLICS, PROTESTANTS AND SOLDIERS TO APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Konya, regarding that the Armenians in Konya not be deported for the time being, and that the families of soldiers and those who are Catholic and Protestant be settled in appropriate locations within the province.]

6 M. 1334 (4 November 1915)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 138 Sifre

Konya Vilâyeti'ne

C. 30 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]331. Berây-i sevk orada bulundugu bildirilen iki bin Ermeninin simdilik sevk olunmayarak vilâyet dâhilinde taht-i muhâfazada bulundurulmasi ve asker â'ileleri ile Katolik ve Protestan olanlarin da ber-mûceb-i ta'lîmât vilâyet dâhilinde münâsib mevâki'de iskânlari.

Fî 1 Tesrîn-i Sanî [1]331

Nâzir

Tal'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 58/2

152 - FEEDING THE ARMENIANS DEPORTED TO THE AREA OF THE FOURTH ARMY

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the provinces of Adana and Aleppo and to the governor of the sanjak of Urfa, regarding that the military has instructed the Fourth Army commander, the Aleppo Communications inspector and other necessary authorities about providing food for the Armenian refugees sent to area of the Fourth Army.]

28 Z. 1333 (6 November 1915)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti Sifre

Adana ve Haleb vilâyetleriyle Urfa Mutasarrifligi'na

Nezâretçe bir karâr ittihâz ve teblîg edilinceye kadar Dördüncü Ordu ve mintikasina sevk edilmekde olan Ermeni muhâcirînin Pozanti, Haleb menzil hattindan esnâ-yi mürûrlarinda ikmâl efrâdi misillü cihet-i askeriyece te'mîn-i i'âseleri için Dördüncü Ordu kumandani ile Haleb Menzil Müfettisiligi'ne ve daha îcâb edenlere teblîgât-i lâzime îfâ olundugu Baskumandanlik Vekâleti'nden bildirildigi bâ-tezkire-i sâmiye izbâr buyurulmusdur.

Fî 24 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]331

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 57/317

153 - DISPATCHING THE GENDARMERIE WHO ACTED INAPPROPRIATELY TO THE MILITARY COURT

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Urfa, regarding court martial of the gendarmerie accompanying the convoys sent from Urfa to Rakka, due to their inappropriate acts arising of negligence.]

28 Z. 1333 (6 November 1915)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 51 Sifre

Urfa Mutasarrifligi'na

Urfa'dan Rakka'ya gönderilen ilk kâfileye terfîk olunan muhâfiz jandarmalarin adem-i takayyüdünden nâsî esnâ-yi sevkiyâtda uygunsuzluklar vukû' buldugu ve bu cümleden yolda jandarmalarin gözü önünde kadinlar kaçirilmis oldugu ve bunlarin hilâf-i teblîgât olarak simendifer güzergâhi üzerinde bulunan kurâdan ba'zilarina yerlestirildiklerinin görüldügü Muhâcirîn Müdîri Sükrü Bey'den vârid olan telgrafnâmede izbâr olunuyor. Bu bâbda tahkîkât icrâsiyla jandarmalarin Divân-i Harbe tevdî' olunarak cezalandirilmalari ve inbâsi.

Fî 24 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]331

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 57/309

154 - PROVIDING BREAD TO THE ARMENIANS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Nigde, regarding providing sufficient bread for the Armenian women and children in Ulukisla.]

29 Z. 1333 (7 November 1915)

Bâb-i Âli

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 22 Sifre

Nigde Mutasarrifligi'na

Ulukisla'da mevcûd ve ekserîsi kadin ve çocuktan ibâret olan Ermenilere pek az ekmek verildigi haber verilmisdir. Muhâcirîn-i merkûmeye mikdâr-i kâfî ekmek i'tâ olunmasi.

Fî 25 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]331

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 57/345

155 - THE AREAS WHERE ARMENIANS WILL BE SETTLED

[Ciphered telegram sent from the Ministry of the Interior to the Chairman of the Commission for Abandoned Properties in Adana, regarding the necessity that the Armenians not be allowed to stay in large numbers, but that they be distributed to Muslim towns and villages.]

6 M. 1334 (14 November 1915)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Iskân-i Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyeti Sifre

Adana Emvâl-i Metrûke Idâre Komisyonu Riyâseti'ne

C. 22 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]331. Nakledilen Ermenilerin evlâd, zevce, peder, vâlide gibi infâka kânûnen mecbûr bulundugu ekâribinin terk eyledigi hânede ikâmetine müsâ'ade i'tâsi tabî'î ve istîcâr husûsunda müzâyede serâ'itine tevfîk-i mu'âmele edilmek üzere Ermeniler tarafindan vukû' bulan mürâca'at ve istirâkin kabûlü muvâfikdir. Ma'a-hâzâ terk edilen Ermenilerin mütekâsif bir hâlde bulundurulmamasi ve îcâbinda kurâ ve kasabât-i Islâmiyye'ye tevzî'i lâzimdir.

Fî 1 Tesrîn-i Sânî sene [1]331

Nâzir Nâmina

Subhîî

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 58/1

156 - A NEW MEMBER HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO THE COMMISSION OF PREVENTING THE ABUSES DURING THE DEPORTATION OF ARMENIANS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the provinces of Hüdâvendigâr and Ankara and to the governors of the sanjaks of Izmir, Karesi, Nigde, etc., regarding that Ismail Hakki Bey, a member of the State Council has been appointed to the delegation headed by Hulûsi Bey, the Chief judge of the Court of Appeals, in order to investigate the abuses that have occurred during the deportation of Armenians.]

8 M. 1334 (16 November 1915)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Kalemi

685 Sifre

Hüdâvendigâr, Ankara Vilâyetleriyle, Izmit, Karesi, Kütahya, Eskisehir, Kayseri, Karahisâr-i Sâhib, Nigde mutasarrifliklarina

Zeyl-i tahrîrât. 21 Eylül sene [1]331. Livâ/vilâyet dâhilindeki Ermenilerin esnâ-yi sevklerinde mahallerince vukû' bulan sû-i isti'mâlât ve hilâf-i kânûn mu'âmelât hakkinda tahkîkât icrâ eylemek üzere Mahkeme-i Temyîz Re'îsi Hulûsî Beyriyâsetindeki hey'ete dâhil bulunan Seyyid Hâsim Bey'in hastaligina binâ'en Der-sa'âdet'e avdet edeceginden yerine Sûrâ-yi Devlet A'zâsindan Ismâ'îl Hakki Bey ta'yîn kilinmis ve el-yevm Nigde'de bulunan hey'ete iltihâk etmek üzere müteheyyi-i hareket bulunmusdur.

2 Tesrîn-i sânî sene [1]331

Nâzir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 58/38

157 - ARMENIANS WHO ARRIVED IN ZOR VIA ALEPPO

[Ciphered telegram from the governor of the sanjak of Zor to the Ministry of the Interior, regarding one thousand five Armenians have arrived in Zor by way of Aleppo.]

25 Ra. 1334 (31 January 1916)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti Mahreci

Sifre Kalemi Zor

Haleb tarîkiyle bin bes yüz Ermeni daha gelmistir.

Fî 18 Kânûn-i Sânî [1]331

Mutasarrif

Su'âd

BOA. DH. EUM, 2. Sb. 69/5

158 - ARMENIANS OF AINTAB AND IZMIT WHO ARRIVED IN ZOR

[Ciphered telegram from the governor of the sanjak of Zor to the Ministry of the Interior, regarding the number of Armenians from Aintab and Izmit who arrived in Zor.]

2 R. 1334 ( 7 February 1916)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti Mahreci

Sifre Kalemi Zor

Ayintâb ve Izmitlilerden iki bin bes yüz Ermeni dün Zor'a gelmistir.

Fî 25 Kânûn-i Sânî [1]331

Mutasarrif

Ali Su'âd

BOA. DH. EUM, 2. Sb. 69/6

159 - THE ARMENIANS OF AINTAB, TEKFURDAGI, KARAHISAR AND AKSEHIR WHO REACHED ZOR

[Ciphered telegram from the governor of the sanjak of Zor to the Ministry of the Interior, regarding the number of Armenians from Aintab, Tekfurdagi, Karahisar and Aksehir who have reached Zor.]

3 R. 1334 (8 February 1916)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti Mahreci

Sifre Kalemi Zor

Ayintâb, Tekfurdagi, Karahisâr, Aksehir Ermenilerinden bin dört yüz kirk nüfûs dün Zor'a vasil olmuslardir.

Fî 26 Kânûn-i Sânî [1]331

Zor Mutasarrifi

Ali Su'âd

BOA. DH. EUM, 2. Sb. 69/7

160 - THE ARMENIANS OF MAR'AS, BURSA AND ADAPAZARI WHO ARRIVED IN ZOR

[Ciphered telegram from the governor of the sanjak of Zor to the Ministry of the Interior, regarding the number of Armenians from Mar'as, Bursa and Adapazari who arrived in Zor.]

7 R. 1334 (12 February 1916)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti Mahreci

Sifre Kalemi Zor

Dün Maras, Brusa, Adapazarlilardan iki yüz seksen Ermeni daha gelmistir.

Fî 30 Kânûn-i Sânî [1]331

Mutasarrif

Ali Su'âdSu'âd

BOA. DH. EUM, 2. Sb. 69/9

161 - THE ARMENIANS OF IZMIT AND SAMSUN WHO ARRIVED IN ZOR

[Ciphered telegram from the governor of the sanjak of Zor to the Ministry of the Interior, regarding the number of Armenians from Izmit and Samsun who arrived in Zor.]

6 R. 1334 (11 February 1916)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti Mahreci

Sifre Kalemi Zor

Bugün Izmit ve Samsunlu dört yüz Ermeni nüfûs gelmistir.

Fî 29 Kânûn-i Sânî [1]331

Mutasarrif

Su'âd

BOA. DH. EUM, 2. Sb. 69/8

162 - THE DEPORTATION OF ARMENIANS TO ALEPPO, SYRIA AND KIRKUK

[That the Armenians, to be deported to Zor, shall be deported to Aleppo, Syria and Kirkuk the quota of deportation to Zor being filled up and exceeding the regulatory rate of 15%.]

29 June 1931

Bâb-i Âlî

Dahiliye Nezâreti

Iskân-i Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyeti Sifre

Adana, Erzurum, Bitlis, Haleb, Diyârbekir, Sivas, Ma'mûratü'l-azîz, Urfa, Kayseri, Canik, Izmit Vilâyet ve Mutasarrifliklarina

Zeyl Fî Haziran [1]331. Haleb Vilâyeti'nin cenûbu Sûriye Vilâyeti'nin sarki ve Kerkük livâsinda da Ermenilerin iskâni mukarrer oldugu içün hâl-i isbâ'a gelen yüzde on besi tecâvüz eden Zor sancagina sevk edilerek gönderileceklerin sâlifu'z-zikr vilâyâta sevkleri ve turuk-i sevkiyât üzerinde bulunan me'mûrîne de o yolda tebligât îfâsi.

Fî 29 Haziran sene [1]331

Nâzir Nâmina

Ali MünîfMünîf

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 54/308

163 - SENDING THE BOOK INDICATING THE NUMBER OF ARMENIANS IN AREAS THAT ARE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF KONYA

[Ciphered telegram from the governor of the province of Konya to the Ministry of the Interior, regarding that the book indicating the number of local and foreign Armenians in locations within Konya, has been sent.]

21 Ca. 1335 (15 March 1917)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti Mahreci

Sifre Kalemi Konya

C. 13 Mart sene [1]333. Mülhakât-i vilâyetteki Ermenilerin 1990 adedi yerli ve 6696 adedi yabanci olmak üzere cem'an 8686 neferden ibâret olup bu bâbdaki müfredâti defterin bugün postaya tevdî'an takdîm kilindigi ma'rûzdur.

Fî 15 Mart sene [1]333

Vâlî Vekîlî Mektûbcu

Kemâleddin

BOA. DH.EUM, 2. Sb. 69/34

164 - THE NUMBER OF ARMENIANS EMPLOYED IN THE RAILROAD WHO ARE EXEMPT FROM DEPORTATION

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to some provinces and governors of sanjaks, regarding that the names of Armenians who have been exempt from deportation, stating they were employed by the railway, be examined and communicated.]

10 Ra. 1334 (16 January 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti Sifre

Husûsî: 6618 Mahrem

Haleb, Adana, Konya, Ankara Vilâyetleriyle, Eskisehir, Izmit Mutasarrifliklarina

Ermenilerden sevkiyâtda müstahdem degil iken sevkden istisnâ etdirilmek maksadiyla birer hizmete alinanlarin ve el-yevm simendüfer islerinde bir hizmet-i mu'ayyenesi olmadigi hâlde müstahdemdir diye alikonulanlarin vilâyet/livâ dâhilindeki mikdâriyla esâmîsinin tahkîk ve inbâsi.

Fî 3 Kânûn-i Sânî sene 1331

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 60/45

165 - PROVIDING INFORMATION ON ARMENIAN EMPLOYEES IN THE PUBLIC DEBTS AND THE REGIE WHO ARE EXEMPT FROM DEPORTATION

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to some provinces and governors of sanjaks, regarding that the names of Armenians in evacuated areas who were employed at the Public Debts and at the Régie who were exempt from deportation, and of those who are newly appointed, be communicated together with their dates of appointment and their places of birth.]

13 Ra. 1334 (19 January 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 843 Sifre

Edirne Vilâyeti'ne Urfa Mutasarrifligi'na

Erzurum " Izmit "

Adana " Karahisâr-i Sâhib "

Ankara " Canik "

Bitlis " Karesi "

Hüdâvendigâr " Kal'a-i Sultâniyye "

Diyârbekir " Kayseri "

Sivas " Eskisehir "

Trabzon " Içel "

Konya " Kütahya "

Ma'mûretü'l-azîz "

Ermenileri nakl ve tahliye edilmis olan mahallerde Düyûn-i Umûmiyye ve Reji Idâresi'ne â'id Ermeni me'mûrlar bulundugu gibi yeniden de bu gibi mahallere Ermeni me'mûrlar ta'yîn ve i'zâm kilinmakda oldugu haber aliniyor. Mezkûr idârelerde sevkden istisnâ edilerek birakilanlarla yeniden ta'yîn ve izâm olunanlarin esâmîsinin ve târîh-i ta'yînleri ile nere ahâlîsinden olduklarinin tahrîr ile is'âri.

Fî 6 Kânûn-i Sânî sene [1]331

Nâzir Nâmina

Subhîî

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 60/48

166 - THAT ARMENIANS ARE NOT TAKEN OUT OF THE PROVINCES WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the provinces, regarding that the Armenians whose deportation was postponed, not be taken out of the province without permission.]

28 Ra. 1334 (3 February 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 6737 Sifre

Edirne, Aydin, Beyrût, Sûriye, Kastamonu Vilâyetleriyle, Bolu, Teke, Çatalca, Kal'a-i Sultâniyye, Mar'as, Içel Mutasarrifliklarina

Sevkleri te'hîr olunan yerli ve vilâyât-i sâ'ireden gelen yabanci Ermenilerin bir kisminin ba'zi mahallerde me'mûrîn-i mülkiyye'den aldiklari vesîkalarla vilâyât dâhilinde gest ü güzâr etmekde olduklari haber alindigindan ba'de-mâ hiç bir Ermeninin Nezâret'den istîzân ve müsâ'ade istihsâl olunmadikça bulundugu kazâdan hârice çikmasina kat'iyyen müsâ'ade edilmemesi ve bu takyîdâtin bunlardan ihtidâ etmis olanlara da tatbîki.

Fî 21 Kânûn-i Sânî sene 1331

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, 60/224

167 - THAT ARMENIANS EVEN CARRYING SPECIAL PERMISSION ISSUED BY CIVIL ADMINISTRATION ARE NOT PERMITTED TO WALK AND RIDE ABOUT

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the Fourth Army Command, regarding that foreign Armenians with special permit issued by civil administrators were not allowed to move freely within the province unless they obtain a permission delivered by the Ministry because they can't leave the district where they live without obtaining permission from the Ministry.]

30 Ra. 1334 (5 February 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 142

Su'be: 2 Sifre

Dördüncü Ordu Kumandani Cemâl Pasa Hazretlerine

C. 19 Kânûn-i Sânî sene [1]331. Sevkleri te'hîr olunan yerli ve vilâyât-i sâ'ireden gelen yabanci Ermenilerin bir kisminin ba'zi mahallerde me'mûrîn-i mülkiyye'den aldiklari vesîkalarla vilâyât dâhilinde gest ü güzâr etmekde olduklari haber alindigindan bahs ile ba'de-mâ hiç bir Ermeninin Nezâret'den istîzân ve müsâ'ade istihsâl olunmadikça bulundugu kazâdan hârice çikmasina kat'iyyen müsâ'ade edilmemesi ve bu takyîdâtin bunlardan ihtidâ etmis olanlara da tatbîki hakkinda 17 Kânûn-i Sânî [1]331 târîhinde îcâb eden vilâyât ve elviye-i gayr-i mülhakaya ve ahîren Sûriye Vilâyeti'ne teblîgât icrâ kilinmisdir.

Fî 23 Kânûn-i Sânî sene [1]331

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, 60/239

168 - THE ARMENIANS' SMUGGLING LARGE AMOUNTS OF FUNDS TO SWITZERLAND

[Memorial written per request of the Bern Embassy, by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the Ministry of the Interior, regarding: as it has been determined that Armenians who have left Istanbul and settled in Switzerland are utilizing the large sums of money they have taken with them, against the Ottoman government, taking large sums of money from Istanbul to foreign countries should be prevented; that in addition, the Greek and Armenian railroad employees who facilitate taking the letters written by the troublemakers in Istanbul out of the country, be kept under close surveillance, and that they be replaced by reliable Muslim employees or that undercover police officers be employed, and that Karabet Hogasyan, an inspector of the Sirkeci sleeping cars be kept under police surveillance until his malicious activities are determined.]

3 R. 1334 (8 February 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Hâriciye Nezâreti

Umûr-i Siyâsiyye Müdîriyyet-i Umûmiyyesi

Mühimme Kalemi

Tarîh: 3 Subat sene [1]331 Mahremâne

Dâhiliye Nezâret-i Celîlesine

Der-sa'âdet'den müfârakatle Isviçre'de ihtiyâr-i ikâmet eden Ermenilerin memâlik-i Osmâniyye'den hîn-i müfârakatlerinde berâberlerinde götürmüs olduklari mebâlig-i külliyyeyi Ermeni mes'elesine hâdim olarak Hükûmet-i Osmâniyye aleyhinde tertîb etdikleri harekât-i sekâvetkârâne ugrunda sarf etmekde ve el-hâletü hâzihi gerek buradaki bankalar vâsitasiyla gerek suver-i sâ'ire ile Der-sa'âdet'den mebâlig-i kesîre celb eylemekde bulunduklari istihbâr olundugundan sâ'ir hükûmât-i muhâribe memâlikinde ittihâz olunan tedâbîre mümâsil Der-sa'âdet'den hârice para nakl ve ihrâcinin men'i hakkinda Hükûmet-i seniyyece müttehaz mukarrerâtin temâmî-i tatbîkine bir kat daha dikkat ve i'tinâ olunmasi ve bir de Der-sa'âdet'de bulunan bed-hâhân ve garazkârân taraflarindan tastîr olunan mekâtîb Rumeli Demiryollari me'mûrlari ma'rifetiyle Isviçre'de ve memâlik-i sâ'irede bulunan muhâlifîn-i hükûmete ve a'dâ-i devlete îsâl edilmekde bulundugu da ayrica ihbâr edilmesine mebnî zikr olunan me'mûrlarin sedîden taht-i tarassudda tutulmasi ve bunlarin arasinda bulunan Rum ve Ermenilerin âdî ve yatakli vagonlar hizmetinden derhâl ihrâciyla yerlerine Müslümânlardan emniyetli me'mûrlarin ta'yîni veyâhûd harbin imtidâdi müddetince mârru'z-zikr demiryollar vagonlari hizmetinin sivil polis me'mûrlarina tevdî'i ve Sirkeci'de yatakli vagonlar müfettislerinden olup Hidiv Abbâs Hilmi Pasa hazretlerinin adamlariyla münâsebâti olan Karabet Hogasyan nâmindaki sahsin harekât ve tesvîlâtina tamâmiyla kesb-i ittilâ' edilinceye kadar simdilik sûret-i mahremânede polisin nezâreti altinda bulundurulmasi lüzûmu Bern Sefîri Fu'âd Selim Beyefendi'den alinan 8 Subat [1]916 târîhli tahrîrât-i mahremânede izbâr edilmisdir. Iktizâsinin îfâsi himem-i aliyye-i dâverîlerine menûtdur. Emr ü fermân.

Bern Sefâret-i Seniyyesi Hülâsa:Rumeli Demiryollari

Umûmî: 101 Me'mûriyeti

Husûsî: 54 ;;;;;;;

Hariciye Nezâret-i Celîlesine

Devletlü Efendim Hazretleri

Der-sa'âdet'den müfârakat edib Isviçre'de ihtiyâr-i ikâmet etmis olan bi'l-cümle Ermenilerin memâlik-i Osmâniyye'den hîn-i müfârakatlerinde berâberlerinde külliyetli mikdârda para götürüp meblâg-i mezkûreyi Ermeni mes'elesine hâdim olarak el-yevm saltanat-i seniyye aleyhinde tertîb etdikleri harekât-i sekâvetkârâne ugruna sarf etmekde olduklari ve el-hâletü hâzihi gerek Der-sa'âdet bankalari vâsitasiyla ve gerek suver-i sâ'ire ile Der-sa'âdet'den mebâlig-i azîme celb eylemekde bulunduklari istihbâr olundugundan sâ'ir hükûmât-i muhâribe memâlikinde ittihâz olunan tedâbîre mümâsil Der-sa'âdet'den hârice para nakl ve irsâlinin men'i hakkinda hükûmet-i seniyyece ittihâz olunan mukarrerâtin tamâmiyyet-i tatbîkine bir kat daha ihtimâm ve i'tinâ olunmasi zimninda lâzim gelenlere evâmir-i mukteziyye i'tâsi müsterhamdir. Kezâlik Der-sa'âdet'de bulunan saltanat-i seniyye bed-hâhâni ve hükûmet-i hâzira düsmanlari tarafindan testîr olunan muharrerât Rumeli Demiryollari me'mûrlari ma'rifetiyle Isviçre ve memâlik-i sâ'irede bulunan hükûmet muhâliflerine ve a'dâ-yi devlete nakl ve îsâl olunmakda bulundugu bendelerine ihbâr edildiginden Rumeli Demiryollari me'mûrlarinin sedîd bir teftîse tâbi' tutulmasi ve me'mûrîn-i mezkûre meyâninda bulunup Rum ve Ermeni milletlerine mensûb olan eshâsin âdî ve yatakli vagonlar hizmetinden derhâl ihrâciyla onlarin yerine Müslümânlardan emniyetli me'mûrlarin ta'yîni veyâhûd harbin imtidâdi müddetince mârru'l-arz demiryollar vagonlarinin hizmeti sivil polis me'mûrlarina tevdî'i lüzûmu zât-i âlî-i Nezâret-penâhîlerince tasvîb buyurulacagi bedîhîdir. Sirkeci'de Rumeli Demiryollarinin yatakli vagonlari müfettislerinden (Controleur des wagons-lits) olup Hidiv Abbâs Hilmi Pasa'nin adamlariyla münâsebâti olan Ermeni milletinden Karabet Hogasyan (Karabet Hogassian) nâm sahsin harekât ve tesvîlâtina tamâmiyla kesb-i ittilâ' edilinceye kadar simdilik sûret-i mahremânede polis nezâreti altinda bulundurulmasi içün Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyetine teblîgât-i mukteziyye i'tâsi müsterhamdir. Emr ü fermân hazret-i men lehü'l-emrindir.

Fî 8 Subat sene [1]916

Bern Sefîri

Bende

Fu'âd Selim

BOA. HR. HU, Kr.178/20

169 - THAT ARMENIANS WHO HAVE NOT BETRAYED AND WHO HAVE NO RELATIONS WITH REVOLUTIONARY COMMITTEES NOT BE DEPORTED

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Karesi, regarding that the reason for dispatching twenty seven Armenian families sent from Karahisar be given and that they be immediately returned to their locations.]

7 Ca. 1334 (3 March 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 7151/135 Sifre

Karesi Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 25/26 Subat [1]331. Ermeni â'ilelerinin sevk olunmamasi ve ihrâcin ancak komitelerle münâsebet ve alâkasi olan ve hükûmetçe hiyânetleri mütebeyyin bulunan eshâsa hasri teblîg olundugu hâlde yirmi yedi hâne halkinin Karahisâr'a sevk edilmeleri sebebinin is'âri ile berâber gönderilen mezkûr â'ilelerin derhâl yerlerine i'âdeleri.

Fî 28 Subat sene [1]331

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.61/2-290

170 - THAT THE DEPORTATION OF ARMENIANS BE CEASED

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to some provinces and governors of sanjaks, regarding that due to administrative and military matters, no Armenian be deported for any reason from now on.]

10 Ca. 1334 (15 March 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 9 Sifre

Edirne Vilâyeti'ne Izmit Mutasarrifligi'na

Adana " Bolu "

Ankara " Canik "

Aydin " Karesi "

Hüdâvendigâr " Kayseri "

Sivas " Kütahya "

Kastamonu " Nigde "

Konya " Eskisehir "

Mar'as "

Görülen lüzûm ve îcâb-i idârî ve askerîye binâ'en ba'de-mâ Ermeni sevkiyâtinin ta'tîli takarrur etdiginden simdiye kadar çikarilanlardan baska artik hiç bir sebeb ve vesîle ile Ermeni ihrâc olunmamasi ta'mîmen teblîg olunur.

Fî 2 Mart sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.62/21

171 - THE REPORT TO BE PREPARED BY ABDULAHAD NURI BEY, THE DIRECTOR OF DEPORTATIONS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Aleppo, regarding the report of Abdülahad Nuri Bey, the Director of Deportations on the situation of Armenians in Damascus and Aleppo, and their return to Istanbul.]

30 Ca. 1334 (14 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Iskân-i Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyeti

Iskân Su'besi

18 Sifre

Haleb Vilâyeti'ne

Sevkiyât Müdîri Abdülahad Nûrî Bey'in Sam'a azîmetle oradaki Ermenilerin de ahvâlini bi't-tedkîk Haleb sevkiyât-i umûmiyye ve netâyicine ve Ermenilerin ahvâl-i hâzira-i umûmiyyelerine dâ'ir tanzîm edecegi raporu müstashiben Istanbul'a avdet eylemesi lüzûmunun mûmâ-ileyhe teblîgi mütemennâdir.

Fî 22 Mart sene [1]332

Nâzir Nâmina

Sâkir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.62/223

172 - PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE SITUATION OF ARMENIANS REMAINING WITHIN THE PROVINCE

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the provinces of Erzurum and Bitlis, regarding that the situation of Armenians who were not deported during the retreat of the army, be communicated.]

15 C. 1334 ( 19 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâretî

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 561 Sifre

Erzurum, Bitlis Vilâyeti'ne

Vilâyet dâhilinde sevk edilmeyerek kalmis olan Ermenilerin ordunun geri çekildigi esnâda ne olduklarinin is'âri.

Fî 6 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/50

173 - THE FEEDING AND LODGING OF ARMENIAN FAMILIES

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Kastamonu, regarding that the Armenian families whose menfolks have been transferred, be distributed separately to villages and towns that do not have an Armenian and foreign population, and that their feeding and lodging expenses be paid out of the refugees fund, and that the items they need be provided out of the abandoned properties.]

16 C. 1334 (20 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Iskân-i Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyeti

Iskân Su'besi Sifre

Kastamonu Vilâyeti'ne

C. 5 Nisan sene [1]332. Erkekleri nakl edilen Ermeni â'ilelerinin Ermeni ve ecnebî bulunmayan köy ve kasabalara bi't-tevzî' müteferrik sûretde iskânlarinin icrâsiyla bulunduklari mahallerde temessül ettirilmeleri ve bunlardan kalacak hânelere Dördüncü Ordu mintikasindan vürûd etmekde olan â'ilelerin müteferrikan ikâmesi ve kendilerinin i'âseleri husûsunun dahi der-dest-i irsâl bulunan muhâcirîn tahsîsâtindan ve muhtâc olduklari esyânin emvâl-i metrûkeden te'mîni ve Dördüncü Ordu'dan intizâr olunan tafsîlât-i lâzime alininca ta'lîmâtnâmenin gönderilecegi.

Fî 7 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir Nâmina

Sâkir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/60

174 - RETURN OF ARMENIAN WORKERS TO MAR'AS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Mar'as, regarding that if the Armenian workers from Mar'as do not return to Mar'as within twenty four hours, their families will be deported.]

18 C. 1334 (22 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti Sifre

Su'be: 2 Müsta'cel

Mar'as Mutasarrifligi'na

Mar'asli Ermeni amelenin yirmi dört saat zarfinda Mar'as'a avdetleri ve aksi hâlde â'ilelerinin nefy ve teb'îd edilecegi teblîg olundugu Toros Demiryolu Mühendisligi'nden bildiriliyor. Cereyân-i hâlin serî'an inbâsi.

Fî 9 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/75

175 - THE NUMBER OF ARMENIANS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN DEPORTED, WHO HAVE ARRIVED FROM OTHER AREAS AND WHO ARE ON THEIR WAY

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to some provinces and governors of sanjaks, regarding that the number of the local Armenians who were not deported, and of those who have arrived from other locations and are staying temporarily and who are going to other locations.]

18 C. 1334 (22 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 45655

Umûm: 129 Sifre

Edirne Vilâyeti'ne Urfa Mutasarrifligi'na Adana " Izmit " Ankara " Bolu " Haleb " Canik " Hüdâvendigâr " Zor " Diyârbekir " Karesi " Sûriye Vileyetine Kayseri Mutasarrifligina Sivas " Içel " Kastamonu " Kütahya " Konya " Nigde " Ma'mûretül-azîz " Eskisehir " Musul "

10 Nisan sene [1]332 târîhinde yerli Ermenilerden sevk edilmeyerek ibkâ edilenlerin ve mahall-i âhardan gelip de muvakkaten birakilanlarin ve mahall-i âhara gitmek üzere yolda ne kadar Ermeni bulundugunun muvazzahan nihâyet iki gün zarfinda inbâsi.

Fî 9 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir Nâmina

Subhî

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/72

175 - THE NUMBER OF ARMENIANS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN DEPORTED, WHO HAVE ARRIVED FROM OTHER AREAS AND WHO ARE ON THEIR WAY

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to some provinces and governors of sanjaks, regarding that the number of the local Armenians who were not deported, and of those who have arrived from other locations and are staying temporarily and who are going to other locations.]

18 C. 1334 (22 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 45655

Umûm: 129 Sifre

Edirne Vilâyeti'ne Urfa Mutasarrifligi'na Adana " Izmit " Ankara " Bolu " Haleb " Canik " Hüdâvendigâr " Zor " Diyârbekir " Karesi " Sûriye Vileyetine Kayseri Mutasarrifligina Sivas " Içel " Kastamonu " Kütahya " Konya " Nigde " Ma'mûretül-azîz " Eskisehir " Musul "

10 Nisan sene [1]332 târîhinde yerli Ermenilerden sevk edilmeyerek ibkâ edilenlerin ve mahall-i âhardan gelip de muvakkaten birakilanlarin ve mahall-i âhara gitmek üzere yolda ne kadar Ermeni bulundugunun muvazzahan nihâyet iki gün zarfinda inbâsi.

Fî 9 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir Nâmina

Subhî

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/72

176 - PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE NUMBER OF ARMENIANS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Konya, regarding that the ratio of the Armenians who are indigenous to the province and who have arrived from outside the province, to the Muslim population, and whether there are any members of revolutionary committees, and that those who helped communicate with other locations, be communicated.]

22 C. 1334 (26 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 644 Sifre

24 Mahremdir

Konya Vilâyeti'ne

(1) Vilâyet dâhilinde el-yevm ne kadar Ermeni vardir? Bunlardan ne kadari yerli ve ne mikdâri hâricden gelmisdir?

(2) Iskân içün vilâyetin nerelerine ne kadar Ermeni gönderilmistir? Nüfûs-i Islâmiyye'ye nazaran kaç nisbetindedirler ve nere Ermenilerindendirler?

(3) Sevk edilmek üzere gönderilip orada birakilanlar kaç kisidir ve nere ahâlîsindendirler?

(4) Bunlardan simendüfer, reji, düyûn-i umûmiyye, insâ'ât hizmetlerine girmis var midir? Merkez ve mülhakât-i vilâyetde taninmis komitecilerden mazanna-i sû-i esrârdan eshâs mevcûd mudur? Varsa nereli ve isimleri nedir ve ne sûretle oraya gönderilmis ve ibkâ olunmusdur?

(5) Birakilan Ermenilerin bi'l-hâssa Konya merkezinden Istanbul ve sâ'ir mahallerle muntazaman muhâbere etdikleri te'eyyüd ediyor. Orada bu muhâberâta tavassut edenler hakkinda vilâyetin ma'lûmâti nedir? Bi'l-etrâf is'âri.

13 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/119

176 - PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE NUMBER OF ARMENIANS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Konya, regarding that the ratio of the Armenians who are indigenous to the province and who have arrived from outside the province, to the Muslim population, and whether there are any members of revolutionary committees, and that those who helped communicate with other locations, be communicated.]

22 C. 1334 (26 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 644 Sifre

24 Mahremdir

Konya Vilâyeti'ne

(1) Vilâyet dâhilinde el-yevm ne kadar Ermeni vardir? Bunlardan ne kadari yerli ve ne mikdâri hâricden gelmisdir?

(2) Iskân içün vilâyetin nerelerine ne kadar Ermeni gönderilmistir? Nüfûs-i Islâmiyye'ye nazaran kaç nisbetindedirler ve nere Ermenilerindendirler?

(3) Sevk edilmek üzere gönderilip orada birakilanlar kaç kisidir ve nere ahâlîsindendirler?

(4) Bunlardan simendüfer, reji, düyûn-i umûmiyye, insâ'ât hizmetlerine girmis var midir? Merkez ve mülhakât-i vilâyetde taninmis komitecilerden mazanna-i sû-i esrârdan eshâs mevcûd mudur? Varsa nereli ve isimleri nedir ve ne sûretle oraya gönderilmis ve ibkâ olunmusdur?

(5) Birakilan Ermenilerin bi'l-hâssa Konya merkezinden Istanbul ve sâ'ir mahallerle muntazaman muhâbere etdikleri te'eyyüd ediyor. Orada bu muhâberâta tavassut edenler hakkinda vilâyetin ma'lûmâti nedir? Bi'l-etrâf is'âri.

13 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/119

177 - PROTECTION OF THE ARMENIANS BY THE SANJAK GOVERNOR OF MAR'AS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to Cemâl Pasa, the commander of the Fourth Army, regarding that Haydar Bey, an inspector from the Civil Service has been sent to Mar'as because the reason why the sanjak governor of Mar'as protected the Armenians during the deportation.]

22 C. 1334 (26 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti Sifre

Husûsî: 26 Mahremdir

Dördüncü Ordu-yi Hümâyûn Kumandani Cemâl Pasa Hazretlerine

Mar'as'da el-yevm sevk olunmamis üç bin sekiz yüz kirk bes zükûr ve bes bin küsûr inâs bulundugu ve bunlarin üç bin bes yüz kadarinin Gregoryen ve digerlerinin Katolik ve Protestan oldugu anlasildi. Bu Gregoranîlerin sevkinden sarf-i nazar olunmasi hakkindaki teblîgât-i ahîre sebebiyle kalmis olmalari mülahhazdir. Su hâle nazaran mutasarrifin Ermenileri tesâhüb ve himâye ettigi anlasilamamakdadir. Ma'a-mâ-fîh Mülkiye Müfettislerinden Haydar Bey berây-i tahkîkât Mar'as'a sevk olunmusdur.

13 Nisan sene [1]332

Dâhiliye Nâziri

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/110

178 - DISPERSING THE ARMENIANS OF BALIKESiR TO THE APPROPRIATE VILLAGES

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Karahisar-i Sahip, regarding that the Armenians of Balikesir be distributed in appropriate villages within the district.]

26 C. 1334 (30 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 45974

Husûsî: 12

Su'be: 2 Sifre

Karahisâr-i Sâhib Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 10 Nisan sene [1]332. Balikesir Ermenilerinin simdilik livâ dâhilinde münâsib köylere tevzî'leri muktezîdir.

17 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/137

179 - THE FEEDING AND LODGING OF HOMELESS ARMENIANS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to various provinces and governors of sanjaks regarding that the homeless families who are without protection, be distributed in villages and towns that are not populated by Armenians or foreigners, and providing food for them and marrying the young and widowed women and settling the children in orphanages.]

26 C. 1334 (30 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyet-i Umûmiyyesi

Umûmî: 158 Sifre

Adana, Erzurum, Edirne, Haleb, Hüdâvendigâr, Sivas, Diyârbekir, Ma'mûretül-azîz, Konya, Kastamonu, Trabzon Vilâyetleriyle, Izmit, Canik, Eskisehir, Karahisâr-i Sâhib, Mar'as, Urfa, Kayseri, Nigde Mutasarrifliklarina 'mûretül-azîz;, .i.Konya;, .i.Kastamonu;, .i.Trabzon; Vilâyetleriyle, .i.Izmit;, .i.Canik;, .i.Eskisehir;, .i.Karahisâr-i Sâhib;, .i.Mar'as;, .i.Urfa;, .i.Kayseri;, .i.Nigde; Mutasarrifliklarina

Bir sûreti Baskumandan Vekili Enver Pasa Hazretlerine (1)

1- Erkekleri sevk edilip veyâhûd askerde bulunup da kimsesiz ve velîsiz kalan â'ileler ecnebî ve Ermeni bulunmayan kurâ ve kasabâta müteferrikan tevzî' ve muhâcirîn tahsîsâtindan i'âseleri te'mîn edilerek âdât-i mahalliyye ile istînâslarina.

2- Genç ve dul kadinlarin tezvîclerine.

3- On iki yasina kadar olan çocuklarin bizim dârü'l-eytâm ve öksüz yurdlarina tevzî'ine.

4- Darül-eytâmlarin mevcûdu kifâyet etmedigi takdîrde sâhib-i hâl Müslümânlar nezdine verilerek âdâb-i mahalliye ile terbiye ve temsîllerine.ül-eytâm;larin mevcûdu kifâyet etmedigi takdîrde sâhib-i hâl .i.Müslümânlar; nezdine verilerek âdâb-i mahalliye ile terbiye ve temsîllerine.

5- Bunlari kabûl ve terbiye edecek sâhib-i hâl Müslümânlar bulunmadigi takdîrde muhâcirîn tahsîsâtindan ayda otuz kurus i'âse masrafi verilmek sartiyla köylülere tevzî'ine gayret edilmesi ve suver-i sâbika dâhilinde vâki' olacak icrâ'ât ve tesebbüsâtdan aded ve erkâma müstenid olarak pey-der-pey ma'lûmât i'tâsi.

17 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

(1) Enver Pasa hazretlerine; Zeyl Fî 17 Nisan sene [1]332. Vilâyât ve elviyeye vukû'bulan teblîgât zîre derc olunmustur.

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/142

180 - PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE SITES WHERE ARMENIAN FAMILIES ARE SET UP, AND ON THOSE WHO ARE FOREIGN NATIONALS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the Fourth Army Command in Damascus, regarding that information be provided on the sites where Armenian families are set up, and those who are foreign nationals.]

26 C. 1334 (30 April 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Iskân-i Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyeti

Iskân Sû'besi: 28 Sifre

Sam'da Dördüncü Ordu Kumandanligi'na

Ne kadar â'ilenin sûret-i kat'iyyede nerelere tertîb edildiginin ve bunlar meyâninda ecnebî tâbi'iyyetinde bulunan kimseler olup olmadiginin is'âri.

Fî 17 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/135

181 - RETURNING THE DEPORTED CATHOLICS TO THEIR AREAS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Aleppo, regarding that those individuals among the Catholics of Mar'as who were deported be returned and that the reasons for their deportation be communicated.]

28 C. 1334 (2 May 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 46121

42 Sifre

Haleb Vilâyeti'ne

Haleb'de bulunan Mar'as Katoliklerinin sevk olunmamalari takarrur etmisidi. Bunlarin sevklerine baslandigi haber veriliyor. Esbâb-i sevklerinin inbâsiyla berâber sevk olunanlarin da geriye celbleri.

Fî 19 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/157

182 - SETTLING THE ORPHANS OF THOSE TO BE EVACUATED, IN ORPHANAGES

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Kayseri, regarding that the orphans of those whose deportation is necessary due to military reasons, be distributed in our orphanages.]

29 C. 1334 (3 May 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Iskân-i Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Mûdîriyyeti

5472 Sifre

Kayseri Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 16 Nisan sene [1]332. Baskumandan vekîli pasanin teklîfi muvâfikdir. Sebeb-i askerî bunlarin tahliyesini îcâb etdiriyor. Hemen tahliyeleriyle eytâminin bizim darül-eytâmlara tevzî'i ve netîcesinin inbâsi.ül-eytâm;lara tevzî'i ve netîcesinin inbâsi.

Fî 20 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/178

183 - THE DEPORTATION OF FOREIGN ARMENIANS IN ALEPPO

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to Cemâl Pasa, the Commander of the Fourth Army, regarding deporting the foreign Armenians in Aleppo, other than the Catholics and Protestants to other locations, and the arrest until the arrival of Esad Bey of those who are linked to revolutionary committees and those who can provide information.]

10 B. 1334 (13 May 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâretî

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 60

Su'be: 2 Sifre

Haleb Vilâyeti'ne

Zeyl 28 Nisan sene[1]332. Katolik ve Protestanlar müstesnâ olmak üzere Haleb'de bulunan yabanci Ermenilerin Dördüncü Ordu Kumandanligi'nin is'âri vech ile kâmilen mahâll-i mu'ayyene sevkleri münâsibdir. Ancak bunlardan çete teskîlâtinda medhaldâr olduklari anlasilan veyâ ma'lûmâtlarina mürâca'ât edilmesi lâzim gelen eshâsin Es'ad Bey'in muvâsalatina kadar mevkûfen orada birakilmasi ve tahkîkâtin ta'mîki muktezîdir.

Fî 30 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/306

184 - THE DEPORTATION OF FOREIGN ARMENIANS IN ALEPPO

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to Cemâl Pasa, the Commander of the Fourth Army, regarding deporting the foreign Armenians in Aleppo, other than the Catholics and Protestants to other locations, and the arrest of those who are linked to revolutionary committees and those who can provide information.]

10 B. 1334 (13 May 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 34 Sifre

Dördüncü Ordu Kumandani Cemâl Pasa Hazretlerine

Zeyl. 28 Nisan sene [1]332. Katolik ve Protestanlar müstesnâ olmak üzere Haleb'de bulunan yabanci Ermenilerin is'âr-i devletleri vech ile mahâll-i mu'ayyene sevkleri ve bunlardan çete teskîlâtinda medhaldâr olduklari anlasilan veya ma'lûmâtlarina mürâca'ât edilmesi îcâb eden eshâsin Es'ad Bey'in muvâsalatina kadar mevkûfen orada birakilmasi ve tahkîkâtin ta'mîki lüzûmu Haleb Vilâyeti'ne teblîg olunmusdur. Taraf-i devletlerinden îcâb edenlere ona göre teblîgât îfâsi mütemennâdir.

Fî 30 Nisan sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.63/307

185 - THAT THE COMMISSIONS TO CLASSIFY ABANDONED PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ANNEXED TO THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, regarding that the commissions to classify abandoned properties sent to classify the properties of those who were transferred to other locations, are annexed to the Ministry of Finance.]

10 B. 1334 (13 May 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Asâyir ve Muhâcirin Müdîriyyet-i Umûmiyyesi

Iskân Su'besi

Umûmî: 5737

Husûsî: 205

Hâriciye Nezâret-i Celîlesi'ne

Devletlü Efendim Hazretleri

Mahall-i âhara nakl edilen eshâsa â'id emvâlin kânûn ve nizâmnâme-i mahsûsuna tevfîkan tasfiyesiyle istigâl etmek üzere îcâb eden mahallere i'zâm kilinmis ve el-yevm mu'âmelât-i mezkûrenin ta'kîb ve intâciyla mütevaggil bulunmus olan emvâl-i metrûke tasfiye komisyonlarinin Mayis'in onundan i'tibâren Nezâret-i âcizîden fekk-i irtibâtlariyla Mâliye Nezâreti'ne rabt ve ilhâklari takarrur eylemis bulundugundan husûsât-i mezkûreye müteferri' mevâdd hakkinda ba'de-mâ Nezâret-i âcizîye mürâca'ât edilmeyerek Nezâret-i müsârun-ileyhâ ile muhâbere olunmasi mütemennâdir. Ol bâbda emr ü fermân hazret-i men lehü'l-emrindir.

Fî 10 Receb sene [1]334

ve

Fî 30 Nisan sene [1]332

Dâhiliye Nâziri Nâmina

Sâkir

BOA. HU. Kr.109/3

186 - THE RETURN OF THE RELATIVE OF HIRLAKYAN EFENDI TO MAR'AS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Aleppo, regarding the reason why the relatives of the Mar'as deputy, Hirlakyan Efendi, who are claimed to have been sent from Meskene to Deyr-i Zor, were sent there, and if they were sent, that they should be returned to Mar'as.]

13 S. 1334 (14 June 1916)

Bâb- Ali

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 48124

Husûsî: 84

Su'be: 2 Sifre

Haleb Vilâyeti'ne

Mar'as Meb'ûsu Hirlakyan Efendi'nin Meskene'ye nakl edilmis ve Mar'as'a i'âdeleri lüzûmu mükerreren teblîg edilmis olan akrâbasinin Meskene'den Deyr-i Zor'a sevk edilmis olduklari iddi'â olunuyor. Bunlarin hilâf-i emr Deyr-i Zor'a sevk edilmeleri esbâbinin inbâsi ve sâyed gönderilmisler ise Mar'as'a iâdeleri.

Fî 1 Haziran sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.65/4

187 - RELOCATING THE FOREIGN ARMENIANS IN ALEPPO TO ZOR

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Aleppo, regarding that because sending the foreign Armenians in Aleppo to Syria and Mossul is not appropriate, they should be sent to Zor.]

16 S. 1334 (18 June 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyet-i Umûmiyyesi

Iskân Su'besi

Husûsî: 85 Sifre

Haleb Vilâyeti'ne

C. 24 Mayis sene [1]334. Baska tarafa nakl ve ihrâci orduca takarrur eden Haleb'deki yabanci Ermenilerin Sûriye ve Musul vilâyetlerine gönderilmesinde ahvâl-i hâzira-i harbiyye dolayisiyla mahzûr bulundugu[ndan] bunlarin Zor'a sevki îcâb eder. Sevk me'mûru derdest-i i'zâmdir.

Fî 5 Haziran sene [1]332 Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.65/32-1

188 - TREATING THE ARMENIANS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Kütahya, regarding that the Armenians in question should be treated in accordance with the general regulations dated 13 June 1332.]

26 S. 1334 (28 June 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdiriyyeti

Umûmî: 48714

Husûsî: 22

Kütahya Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 9 Haziran sene [1]332. Bahs olunan Ermeniler hakkinda 13 Haziran sene [1]332 târîhli teblîgât-i umûmiyye vechile mu'âmele îfâsi.

Fî 15 Haziran sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.65/101

189 - RETURNING THE ARMENIAN WOMAN IN RAKKA AND HER TWO DAUGHTERS TO ALEPPO

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Urfa regarding that the relatives of the notable Aram Efendi, a woman and her two daughters who are in Rakka, be returned to Aleppo.]

26 S. 1334 (28 June 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 48744

Husûsî: 26

Su'be: 2 Sifre

Urfa Mutasarrifligi'na

A'yândan Ârâm Efendi'nin akrabâsindan ve Katolik Civânyân â'ilesi efrâdindan olup Rakka'da bulunan bir kadin ile iki kizinin buldurularak Haleb'e i'âdeleri ve inbâsi.

Fî 15 Haziran sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.65/100

190 - RELOCATING THE DANGEROUS AND REVOLUTIONARY ARMENIANS IN KONYA TO ZOR

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Konya, regarding that only the men from among those dangerous individuals who arrived in Konya from other locations and were not relocated, and from among the local ones, only those who betrayed and those with ties to revolutionary committees be sent to Zor.]

9 N. 1334 (10 July 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Husûsî: 146 (4)

Sifre

Mahremdir

Bi'z-zât Hallolunacakdir

Mahremdir

Konya Vilâyeti'ne

1 Haziran sene [1]332. Konya'da bulunan yerli ve yabanci Ermeniler hakkinda ber-vech-i âtî hareket olunacakdir:

Mahâll-i sâ'ireden berây-i sevk oraya gönderilib simdiye kadar sevk edilmeyerek kalmis olanlardan mazarratlari mütebeyyin bulunanlarin â'ilelerine ilisilmeyerek yalniz erkeklerinin münferiden ve evvelce ta'mîmen teblîg olunan tarîkle Zor'a sevkleri.

Yerli Ermenilerden hiyânetleri ve komitelerle alâka ve münâsebetleri ma'lûm olanlarin yine ayni tarîkle ve â'ileleriyle birlikte Zor'a i'zâmi ve ancak her iki sûrete tevfîkan vukû'bulacak sevkiyâtda Ermeni teb'îdine yeniden baslandigi ihsâs etdirilmemek içün kâfilelerin münâsib fâsilalar ile ve pek kalabalik olmayarak tahrîkleri ve Protestan ve Katoliklerin istisnâsi lâzimdir.

Fî 27 Hazirân sene 1332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.65/176

191 - THE FEEDING OF THE ARMENIAN ORPHANS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Aleppo, regarding that if there is no allocation for feeding the Armenian orphans, the amount needed should be communicated in order to be sent.]

12 L. 1334 (12 August 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyet-i Umûmiyyesi

Iskân Su'besi

Umûmî: 7909

Husûsî: 117 Sifre

Haleb Vilâyeti'ne

C. 21 Temmuz sene [1]332. Ermeni yetîmlerinin de i'âsesi cümle-i teblîgâtdandir. Tahsîsât yok ise gönderilmek üzere mikdârinin is'âri.

Fî 30 Temmuz sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.66/229

192 - SETTLING THE ARMENIAN GIRLS WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR IN DARULEYTAM

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Kayseri, regarding that the Armenian girls should be given to their families, that those who have no parents be settled in the orphanage and that the building of the orphanage be turned into a guest house for the refugees.]

23/25 Za. 1334 (21/23 September 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Su'be: 2

42 Sifre

Kayseri Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 31 Agustos sene [1]332. Bildirilen ahvâl ve serâ'ite nazaran bahs olunan Ermeni kizlarindan ebeveyni bulunanlarin ebeveynlerine tevzî'leri ve bulunmayanlarin da simdilik Dârül-eytâmin münâsib bir mahallinde iskânlariyla Dârül-eytâm binâsinin muhâcirîn içün misâfirhâne ittihâzi münâsibdir.ârül-eytâm;in münâsib bir mahallinde iskânlariyla Dârül-eytâm binâsinin muhâcirîn içün misâfirhâne ittihâzi münâsibdir.

Fî 8/10 Eylül sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.68/95

193 - THAT THE ARMENIAN RAILROAD OFFICIALS AND TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES NOT LEAVE THEIR AREAS WITHOUT PERMISSION

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to some provinces and governors of sanjaks, regarding that no Armenian, including the Armenian railroad employees and workers other than those who are civil servants and who will perform official services and who have military documents, shall be allowed to leave their location without permission.]

23 Z. 1334 (21 October 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Su'be: 2/2 (6)

Umûm: 54

Edirne Vilâyeti'ne Urfa Mutasarrifligi'na Adana " Izmit " Ankara " Eskisehir " Aydin " Içel " Beyrût " Bolu " Haleb " Canik " Hüdâvendigâr " Çatalca " Diyarbekir " Zor " Sûriye " Karesi " Trabzon " Kal'a-i Sultâniyye " Kastamonu " Mentese " Konya " Teke " Ma'mûretü'l-azîz " Kayseri " Musul " Karahisâr-i Sâhib " Kütahya " Ma'ras " Nigde " Medîne-i Münevvere "

Ba'de-ez-în mühtedî gayr-i mühtedî bi'l-umûm Ermenilerin me'mûr olanlariyla yedlerinde vesîka-i askeriyyeyi hâmil olarak bir vazîfe-i resmiyyeyi îfâ etmek içün gidenler müstesnâ olmak üzere diger simendüfer me'mûrîn ve müstahdemîninin Nezâretden istîzân ve müsâ'ade istihsâl edilmeksizin bulunduklari mahallerden Der-sa'âdet'e ve mahâll-i sâ'ireye azîmetlerine müsâ'ade olunmamasi lüzûmunun tekrâr îcâb edenlere sûret-i kat'iyyede ihtâri.

Fî 8 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene 1332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.69/62

194 - INVESTIGATING THE LOCATION OF ARMENIANS SENT FROM IZMIR TO BE DEPORTED TO MOSSUL

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Konya, regarding that the location of Armenians who were sent from Izmir to Karahisar and from there to Konya, in order to be sent to Mossul, and who are said to have been sent to Pozanti, be investigated.]

23 Z. 1334 (21 October 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Su'be: 2

106 Sifre

Konya Vilâyeti'ne

Diyârbekir tarîkiyle Musul'a sevk olunmak üzere mukaddemâ Izmir'den Karahisâr'a ve oradan Konya'ya gönderilen ve 12 Kânûn-i Evvel sene [1]331 târîhli telgrafnâmelerinde Pozanti'ya sevk olunduklari bildirilen Ermenilerin nerede bulunduklarinin tahkîk ve inbâsi.

Fî 8 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.69/58

195 - PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE NUMBER AND NAMES OF ARMENIANS WHO ARE DANGEROUS AND WHO MUST BE EXPELLED

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Trabzon, regarding that since the dispatching of Armenians has been postponed, the number and names of only those who are dangerous among them who need to be expelled, should be communicated.]

26 Z.1334 (24 October 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Su'be: 2/27-8

Husûsî: 91 Sifre

Trabzon Vilâyeti'ne

C. 28 Eylül sene 1332. Simdilik Ermeni sevkiyâti te'hîr olundugu cihetle beyân olunan Ermenilerin kâfile halinde ihrâc ve sevkleri muvâfik olamayacagindan bunlardan bi't-tahkîk eshâs-i muzirradan olmalarina binâen ihrâclari lâzim gelenler varsa esâmîsinin ve mikdârlarinin serî'an inbâsi.

Fî 11 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene 1332

Nâzir

Tal'at'at

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.69/86

196 - GIVING PERMISSION TO THE ARMENIANS WHO HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED TO LEAVE

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Eskisehir, regarding that the Armenians who were declared, should be permitted to leave, that the destination of those who leave should be communicated, and that a book should be prepared and sent.]

9 M. 1335 (5 November 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 54388

Husûsî: 50

Su'be: 2 Sifre

Eskisehir Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 17 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]332. Beyân olunan Ermenilerin gidecekleri mahaller hatt güzergâhi olmamak sartiyla azîmetlerine müsâ'ade olunmasi ve gidenlerin esâmîsiyle kimler nezdine ve nereye azîmet etdiklerinin is'âr ve bir defter tanzîm olunarak irsâli muktezîdir.

Fî 22 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]332

Nâzir Vekîli

Halil

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.69/196

197 - FEEDING THE HOMELESS AND DESTITUTE ARMENIANS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Canik, regarding that the feeding of those individuals who are homeless and destitute, from among the Armenians who have converted or who do not convert, should be done from the refugees fund.]

16 M. 1335 (12 November 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyet-i Umûmiyyesi

Iskân Su'besi

Umûmî: 10425

Husûsî: 65 Sifre

Canik Mutasarrifligi'na

Ihtidâ eden veya etmeyen Ermenilerden bîkes ve muhtâc-i mu'âvenet bulunanlari muhâcirîn tahsîsâtindan i'âse ediniz. Tafsîlât postadadir.

Fî 30 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]332

Nâzir Nâmina

Sâkir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 69/245

198 - SENDING A BOOK INDICATING THE ACTIVITIES OF THE ARMENIANS, MEMBERS OF REVOLUTIONARY COMMITTEES, WHO HAVE BEEN EXPELLED

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the province of Aydin, regarding a book to be sent indicating the names, occupations and identities and activities of two hundred fifty Armenians who were expelled because they were members of revolutionary committees and harmful.]

16 M. 1335 (12 November 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 54783

Husûsî: 114

Su'be: 2 Sifre

Aydin Vilâyeti'ne

Komitelere mensûbiyetleri ve zâbitaca fenâ taninmalari dolayisiyla oradan ihrâc olunan iki yüz elli Ermeninin isim, san'at ve hüviyetleri ile derece-i fa'âliyetlerini muhtevî bir defterin irsâli.

Fî 30 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]332

Nâzir Vekîli

Halil

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.69/250

199 - DISTRIBUTING THE WORTHLESS POSSESSIONS OF ARMENIANS WHO LEFT CANAKKALE

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Kale-i Sultaniye [Çanakkale], regarding that if the goods of the Armenians who left Çanakkale, were worthless be distributed to Muslim refugees.]

16 M. 1335 (12 November 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Asâyir ve Muhâcirîn Müdîriyyeti Umûmiyyesi

Iskân Su'besi

Umûmî: 10438

Husûsî: 48 Sifre

Kal'a-i Sultâniyye Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 27 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]332. Kal'a'dan çikan Ermenilerin emvâli hakkinda simdiye kadar hiç bir mu'âmeleye tesebbüs edilmemis oldugu ve bunlar hakîkaten esyâ-yi hasîseden ibâret bulundugu takdîrde bu esyânin muhâcirîn-i Müslimeye tevzî'i daha muvâfikdir.

Fî 30 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene [1]332

Nâzir Nâmina

Sâkir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.69/252

200 - RELOCATING THE REVOLUTIONARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO WERE SENT FROM IZMIR TO MAR'AS

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the governor of the sanjak of Karahisar-i Sahip, regarding sending those Armenians who are members of revolutionary committees who were sent from Izmir to Mar'as by way of Adana.]

17 M. 1335 (13 November 1916)

Bâb-i Alî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Umûmî: 2940

Husûsî: 35 Sifre

Karahisâr-i Sâhib Mutasarrifligi'na

C. 29 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene 1332. Izmir'den gönderilen iki yüz elli alti komiteci Ermeninin Adana tarîkiyla Mar'as'a sevkleri, trene kabûlleri içün Baskumandanlik Vekâleti'ne yazilmisdir.

Fî 31 Tesrîn-i Evvel sene 1332

Nâzir Vekîli

Halil

BOA. DH. SFR, nr.69/260

No Comment

Berj · June 6, 2001

The same manner Stalin "provided food", "relocated" and "helped" circassians.

June 6, 2001

Circassian Genocide ?

June 6, 2001

Well, well, well Circassian has don it again. I already destroyed the veracity of these documents and provided proves about the forging of the words of the documents in question, a the telegrams ciphers technics.

First of all this document come direcly from the Turkish foreign minitry official web site. From the diplomatic archives section.

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupe/eg/eg11/default.htm

It's funny that now Circassian don,t post anymore the first archives since it destroy his clame. These archives proves the fact that Armenians were deported for other reasons then rebellions. And that there is not Ottoman official archive that prove the contrary, the date classifications of the archives are proves itselves. The first archive presented http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupe/eg/eg11/06.htm

has been writen after the first events, there is no writen date on the archive, and the classification number of the archive show that the archive is even maybe an archive writen after the war, has the same allegations then the official Uras writings. The only archive in the series that say that Armenians linked with Russia before the deportation has been writen after the event in question. The second archive has a date and say another thing.

2 - THE DEPORTATION OF THE ARMENIANS OF DORTYOL

[Ciphered telegram from the Ministry of the Interior to the Province of Adana, regarding that the Armenians of Dörtyol be deported to determined areas and that rebellions and revolts be not permitted]

Here we see no places were it say they were deported because of rebellions but be deported and rebellions be not permited. So there is no justification given for the deportation, like the allegations of rebellions.

Now the most important part of it, is the ciphered coded telegrams fonctions and definitions. Like proven during the Turkish military after war tribunal, admited also by Halil, that words in these ciphered telegrams were used for another definition, like the word deportation for example, meant extermination. "Measure taken" meant.

Here is a point the Circassian lost, is that by accident an archive had been published from the foreign ministry from the same series, a report from Talaat.

We may ask Circassian to translate this for everyone. Nope ? The translation on the web hide many parts(wondering why)

29 S. 1333 (12 July 1915)

Bâb-i Âlî

Dâhiliye Nezâreti

Emniyyet-i Umûmiyye Müdîriyyeti

Diyârbekir Vilâyeti'ne

Son zamânlarda vilâyet dâhilindeki Ermeniler ile bilâ-tefrîk-i mezheb Hirîstiyanlar hakkinda katl-i âmlar tertib olundugu ve ez-cümle ahîren Diyârbekir'den sevk olunan eshâs vâsitasiyle Mardin'de murahhasa ile Ermenilerden ve diger Hirîstiyan ahâlîden yedi yüz kisinin geceleri sehirden hârice çikarilarak koyun gibi bogazlatdirildigi ve simdiye kadar bu katl-i âmlarda maktûl olanlarin iki bin kisi tahmîn olundugu ve buna serî' ve kat'î bir netîce verilmezse civâr vilâyâtdaki ahâli-i Islâmiyenin de kiyâm ederek bi'l-umûm Hirîstiyanlarin katletmelerinden korkuldugu istihbâr edilmisdir. Ermeniler hakkinda ittihâz edilen tedâbir-i inzibâtiye ve siyâsiyenin diger Hiristiyanlara tesmîli kat'iyyen gayr-i câ'iz oldugundan efkâr-i umûmiyye üzerinde pek fenâ te'sîr birakacak ve bi'l-hâssa ale'l-itlâk Hiristiyanlarin hayâtini tehdîd edecek bu kabîl vekâyi'a derhâl hitâm verilmesi ve hakîkat-i hâlin is'âri.

Fî 29 Haziran sene [1]331

Nâzir

BOA. DH. SFR, nr. 54/406

Here is a translation.

"It has recently been reported that massacres of

Armenians and Christians without distinction as to sect have been

organized within the province, and that in Mardin, for example, some

seven hundred people from among the Armenians and other Christian

inhabitants were recently taken outside of the city at night and, with

due authorization, slaughtered like sheep by those individuals who had

been brought from Diyarbakir, and that the total of those killed to

date in these massacres is estimated at two thousand persons, and that

there are fears that, if a speedy and definite end is not put to this,

then the Muslim inhabitants of neighboring provinces will rise up and

engage in a general slaughter of Christians. As it is not appropriate

that the disciplinary and administrative measures adopted with regard

to the Armenians be extended to the other Christians, [this situation]

will have a very negative efect on public opinion; consequently, [it

is directed that] such practices which threaten the lives of

Christians indiscriminately [must] be stopped immediately and a report

of the situation be provided."

We clearly see here that Talaat is not asking why these massacres are happening, he is aware of them, he is asking to stop the massacres of Ottoman Christians, but not asking the massacres against Armenians to stop, we see again the "measures" that in ciphered telegrames were always used with Armenians, and this union of the two words meant only one thing, like the word deportation proven from a series of telegrames presented during the Turkish after war tribunal. And more Talaat ask that massacres against other Christians stop not because it's not moral, but that it is not good for public opinion, this show how an immoral person he was. And we all kinow that the massacres were extended to other Christians after that he was abble to pout enought hate on the heart of the Muslims and have the public opinion manipulated how he wanted.

We also have the doubling telegrams sents. Like sending in the same time two telegrams, one as the principale to hide the second one that was destroyed after that the person has read it(presented and admited by many during the Turkish military after war tribunal). The first official one was about supposedly feading the Armenians bla...bla...bla... when at the same time they blocked food and water supply to the deporties in the desert.

There is also the direct forged translation of the Ottoman language to Turkish, or from the Arabic script to Ottoman with latin caracter, then translated to English, these are forged etc...

It is more funny that there is no daily publications and 250 archives are very poor, when there was tens of thousands of archives report. It seem to me that only few support Turkish state theses. And still the orginal are not opn, for the ones relieced from the Turkish ministry of foreign affairs. I just wonder why.

Ah and for others, all these archives should be read, and remark the contradictions, of Catholics not been deported, then order to let catholic deportees enter, when they say first not be deported. Or other things like the conversion of childrens to Islam, without saying what was happening to their parents etc... or the list of the places were the Orphans were sent, and the reports, that were presented during the Turkish after war tribunal, and presented how they were drowned in water and killed by injecting them with morphins.

Circassian can believe his farts, no one here other then him want to smeel these farts.

Berj · June 6, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by circassian:
Circassian Genocide ?

Yes, and if you were a real Circassian, you must have been spending your time debating with Russians, instead of denying somebody else's tragedy.

June 6, 2001

Berj

Debating with russians ? how ?

like chechens perhaps.

I rather move on & affect a real change instead of chasing the " dog's dinner ".

June 6, 2001

Move on, with the already reparations recieved when they were relocated in Armenian homes ? Circassian ?

June 6, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by Domino:
Move on, with the already reparations recieved when they were relocated in Armenian homes ? Circassian ?

wow ! it's you Domino ?

We rather forgive the russians but never forget what they have done / doing to us.

Where do you think Chechen(Circassians) gets
to settle nowadays then you mr.smart alek - know-it-all ?

Who is been killed nowadays mr smarty panties ?

armenians or other cauasians ?

as usual Ivan wants to kill me because of who I am ; Big Problem on my part .

What's it with you Domino ?
Blind ?
Deaf ?
Ignorant ?
Indifferent ?

you have dedicated lots of time to tell everybody how horrible it was in 1915 for humans from caucasus.

perfect smoke screen for russians to hide their deeds in oppressing & killing & exterminating "unwished neighbours" of armenians in cauasia i.e muslims of caucasus.

Putin's game is not going to pay of you know.

p.s
my village house was made of earth & trees both of which freely available to dwellers of the anatolian land for centuries.

June 6, 2001

Well, Circassian, only your answer is a contradiction of your reasoning(your since, your reasoning and a reasoning that is supposed to be based on logic are not the same, your reasoning is like the Surréalisme of the French writers).

You stat Armenians were the perpetrators of a genocide against Muslims, and now call extermination for what is happening in Chechnia.

Well, lets tell you something the Circus of this forum. The Armenians didn't had the choice in 1915 to leave the territory, they were forced to stay in Ottoman, unlike the Chechens. The Russians didn't took all the Chechen population and sent them all in a desert, by blocking any food or water supply. The Russians didn't took as much as orphans they could carry and drowned them in mass, injecting them morphines, and burning the rest.

The Chechen Gorella's have still a chance to serender, the Armenians didn't had any chance of giving arm or not, their was was traced.

Still the genocide continue, since there is cultural genocide defined for exacly what Turkey is doing untill now, there is still the denial as a phase of the genocide. So you see the genocide is still continuing.

So little bigot, contrary to you I don,t judge who is the victime or not based on religion, I'm not a religious fanatics like you that see the Christian world as devil xenophobic hypocrites and liars. Well take a look at Turkey Circus there is still the Kurds that are attacked, there is more then 3000 Kurdish villages that have been pulverised. There was more then 2 million Kurds relocated, and this from a genocide starting after the Armenian one. I have here a French report publication published in Caira, about the Kurdish massacres the work dates back to 20's. When reports, and this from Muslim eyewithneses tell how the Kurds have been deported from the East, and that they chosed to deport them only in winter in order to make their lives impossible.

Your country is build up in blood, all your national inspirations are lies that a normal children of 5 years old will find them fascist, when the Government finance a known NAZI group the Greywold founded in the n40's based direcly from the NAZI. Or the Milliet Turkish newspaper interview with Adolf Hitler in 1933, the special taxes imposed after, Karabekir plans of deportations of the Jews, Armenians and the Greeks just after this direcly inspired from the alleged anti-emigration NAZI "relocation" of the Jews before WWII.

Or the return of Talaat ashes to the Hill of liberty that I would urinate on, when even I have the chance, with the Mesileum of our Hitler(Talaat) or the Great names of streets and schools named after heads that participated from the direct orders to exterminate the Armenians. Go at the site that you know, i already gave a lots of names and examples.

So your criminal state, I will let it alone the day they that the President of the Turkish republic recognise officialy, and this presented live to every Turkish chanel, appologize for all these years of denials, and appologise as the structures of the Turkish republic build on the ashes of an exterminated people.

I will not lets that thing, I forgot all my hobbies to be the worst nightmares of peoples like you. So you can cry on, change the subject by talking about the Chechens, that will change nothing, in order that somebody criticise another state(Russia) he should take a look and be abble to criticise his own state, when this person can not, then he has just to shut up, he's nothing more then a hypocrite.

You are just a bigot, a hypocrite, that judge things based on his religion, and his fascistic mentality. In order that someone be abble to criticise present and future crimes, he should be abble to take examples and criticise past crimes, more particulary when it's from his state. As a citizen it's in his hand to do everything to change his country to the best. When I say best it's BEST. Not the realpolitik definition of it, that you like to fart on.

[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: Domino ]

June 6, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by Domino:
Well, Circassian, only your answer is a contradiction of your reasoning(your since, your reasoning and a reasoning that is supposed to be based on logic are not the same, your reasoning is like the Surréalisme of the French writers).

You stat Armenians were the perpetrators of a genocide against Muslims, and now call extermination for what is happening in Chechnia.

Well, lets tell you something the Circus of this forum. The Armenians didn't had the choice in 1915 to leave the territory, they were forced to stay in Ottoman, unlike the Chechens. The Russians didn't took all the Chechen population and sent them all in a desert, by blocking any food or water supply. The Russians didn't took as much as orphans they could carry and drowned them in mass, injecting them morphines, and burning the rest.

The Chechen Gorella's have still a chance to serender, the Armenians didn't had any chance of giving arm or not, their was was traced.

Still the genocide continue, since there is cultural genocide defined for exacly what Turkey is doing untill now, there is still the denial as a phase of the genocide. So you see the genocide is still continuing.

So little bigot, contrary to you I don,t judge who is the victime or not based on religion, I'm not a religious fanatics like you that see the Christian world as devil xenophobic hypocrites and liars. Well take a look at Turkey Circus there is still the Kurds that are attacked, there is more then 3000 Kurdish villages that have been pulverised. There was more then 2 million Kurds relocated, and this from a genocide starting after the Armenian one. I have here a French report publication published in Caira, about the Kurdish massacres the work dates back to 20's. When reports, and this from Muslim eyewithneses tell how the Kurds have been deported from the East, and that they chosed to deport them only in winter in order to make their lives impossible.

Your country is build up in blood, all your national inspirations are lies that a normal children of 5 years old will find them fascist, when the Government finance a known NAZI group the Greywold founded in the n40's based direcly from the NAZI. Or the Milliet Turkish newspaper interview with Adolf Hitler in 1933, the special taxes imposed after, Karabekir plans of deportations of the Jews, Armenians and the Greeks just after this direcly inspired from the alleged anti-emigration NAZI "relocation" of the Jews before WWII.

Or the return of Talaat ashes to the Hill of liberty that I would urinate on, when even I have the chance, with the Mesileum of our Hitler(Talaat) or the Great names of streets and schools named after heads that participated from the direct orders to exterminate the Armenians. Go at the site that you know, i already gave a lots of names and examples.

So your criminal state, I will let it alone the day they that the President of the Turkish republic recognise officialy, and this presented live to every Turkish chanel, appologize for all these years of denials, and appologise as the structures of the Turkish republic build on the ashes of an exterminated people.

I will not lets that thing, I forgot all my hobbies to be the worst nightmares of peoples like you. So you can cry on, change the subject by talking about the Chechens, that will change nothing, in order that somebody criticise another state(Russia) he should take a look and be abble to criticise his own state, when this person can not, then he has just to shut up, he's nothing more then a hypocrite.

You are just a bigot, a hypocrite, that judge things based on his religion, and his fascistic mentality. In order that someone be abble to criticise present and future crimes, he should be abble to take examples and criticise past crimes, more particulary when it's from his state. As a citizen it's in his hand to do everything to change his country to the best. When I say best it's BEST. Not the realpolitik definition of it, that you like to fart on.

[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: Domino ]

I do criticise my own countrie(s).

I have an opinion about how to solve the IRA problem in UK as much as how to solve the PKK problem in Turkey.I have an opinion about caucasus too.

Armenia is in caucasus isn't it ?

Pillocks like you who can over look the current & real suffering then go on to blobber about past suffering.

make me puke.

THOTH · June 7, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by circassian:

We rather forgive the russians but never forget what they have done / doing to us.

you have dedicated lots of time to tell everybody how horrible it was in 1915 for humans from caucasus.

perfect smoke screen for russians to hide their deeds in oppressing & killing & exterminating "unwished neighbours" of armenians in cauasia i.e muslims of caucasus.

p.s
my village house was made of earth & trees both of which freely available to dwellers of the anatolian land for centuries.

It doesn't seem to me that you have forgiven Russians. And to forgive are you saying that somehow what was done was justified? or have the Russians asked you for your forgiveness? And yet you claim they are still at it with the Chechens. Somehow I think your claims here are the smokescreen and that you wish to have your cake and eat it too...as it were.

Its funny - for all of the evil you calim the Russiansd have done in the Caucuses (and I supose Crimea as well...)(and I do not dispute this) we find a great many Muslims and multi-ethnics about...however in Anatolia where are the Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians? Could it be that what was done to the Armenians (and these others) was in a sense worse than what occured to your people etc by the Russians?

I find this talk of smokescreens and great plots by you (a Turks) very funny. The Republic of Turkey is clearly the nation perpetuating the biggest smokescreen of all...and you are part of it aparently...

ps. there are no Armenians left to take you up on your offer...and do not think that we don't understand that the Ottoman/Tukish powers that be and that have been were not often so generous with such offers (witness the settling of various Muslims [Kurds!] on and taking of Armenian lands/properties, the "encouragement" of Armenian out-migration...and finally the "final solution" to the "Armenian problem"

So please stop insulting us. With every post you grow more transparent.

[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: THOTH ]

Berj · June 7, 2001

Actaully, the Chechens, the Ingushes, the small number of Circassians who came back to the Cherkessk town in 1980-1990s from Kazakhstan have preserved their culture of mountain people, their language and traditions a lot better than their compatriots anywhere else. At least, I've never heard of a Russian Circassian having inclinations for daily cooking

June 7, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by THOTH:

It doesn't seem to me that you have forgiven Russians. And to forgive are you saying that somehow what was done was justified? or have the Russians asked you for your forgiveness? And yet you claim they are still at it with the Chechens. Somehow I think your claims here are the smokescreen and that you wish to have your cake and eat it too...as it were.

Its funny - for all of the evil you calim the Russiansd have done in the Caucuses (and I supose Crimea as well...)(and I do not dispute this) we find a great many Muslims and multi-ethnics about...however in Anatolia where are the Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians? Could it be that what was done to the Armenians (and these others) was in a sense worse than what occured to your people etc by the Russians?

I find this talk of smokescreens and great plots by you (a Turks) very funny. The Republic of Turkey is clearly the nation perpetuating the biggest smokescreen of all...and you are part of it aparently...

ps. there are no Armenians left to take you up on your offer...and do not think that we don't understand that the Ottoman/Tukish powers that be and that have been were not often so generous with such offers (witness the settling of various Muslims [Kurds!] on and taking of Armenian lands/properties, the "encouragement" of Armenian out-migration...and finally the "final solution" to the "Armenian problem"

So please stop insulting us. With every post you grow more transparent.

[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: THOTH ]

as we speak there are circassians dying in kosovo & chechnya.

they are killed by slav's ambition to reach & control mediterrenean.

you are bit shameless Thoth.

I had briefly taught that you were different since your own admission about " best friends " being turkish.

We are being killed by Ivan & all our neighbours(armenians) can talk about is what happened to them in 1915.

Ivan takes my home & he might come into your houses tomorrow.

nobody talks about 30 million lives that Stalin has took.

Varsa Yoksa ermeni cani , sanki baskasinin yasama hakki yok..

That's why your plea is not valued.

poor little Thoth ; he thinks he is being progressive & enlightened LOL.

June 7, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by Berj:
Actaully, the Chechens, the Ingushes, the small number of Circassians who came back to the Cherkessk town in 1980-1990s from Kazakhstan have preserved their culture of mountain people, their language and traditions a lot better than their compatriots anywhere else. At least, I've never heard of a Russian Circassian having inclinations for daily cooking

Berj
you are a bit of dinosour aren't you ?
my father cooked every sunday too.

circassians everywhere knows why we do not have our country & none of us make any bones about it.
Those who can do , will.

June 7, 2001

quote:

as we speak there are circassians dying in kosovo & chechnya.

they are killed by slav's ambition to reach & control mediterrenean.

you are bit shameless Thoth.

I had briefly taught that you were different since your own admission about " best friends " being turkish.

We are being killed by Ivan & all our neighbours(armenians) can talk about is what happened to them in 1915.

Ivan takes my home & he might come into your houses tomorrow.

nobody talks about 30 million lives that Stalin has took.

Varsa Yoksa ermeni cani , sanki baskasinin yasama hakki yok..

That's why your plea is not valued.

poor little Thoth ; he thinks he is being progressive & enlightened LOL.

As we speak, Kurdish villages are destroyeds, a fascist regime spend millions to deny a genocide.

So as we speak there is Circassians dying in Kossovo ? What is this a new fart signed by you ? What don't give a s*** of Chechens dying, you you give a s*** is that they are Muslims, and that the other party is theRussians As we speak also the Indonesian Christians are been exterminated, by a government that is doing nothing to prevent it, in his dream to established the most populated Islamic regime in the world. As we Speak in Algeria the Berbers are attacked massacred, and still Islamists that kill their own peoples and also avenging against Algerians that served for the French more then 40 years ago. More 200 thousand killed. No in these case it is the Islamists that are killing, so Mr. Circassian being a fanatic
uslim has nothing to say. In Africa black Christians are been persecuted for their fate in many region by the Muslim majority, their hands and leegs cut, mutilated killed. But against Mr. Circassian has nothing to say. In all Islamic regime minorities are non existant, since only their existant is a danger for the majority, they are persecuted if don't leave the contry hide in the majority and convert.

So Mr. Circassian see only what is happening to the Muslims, he talk about Bad, Bad Serbs, but finaly Mr. Circassian who were the people in the Balkan in the 90's that have been the most deported and never returned ? Well check out Mr. Circassian.

Mr. Circassian say he critic his country, then he point out the PKK, what a joke he is Mr. Circassian. What about the more then 2 million deported, the military bases just in the middle of villages ? What about kàjailing a young women for having spoken her language in the Parlement. Jailing her 15 years, and giving her 2 years more for having writen a letter. 17 years in every real civilised country is given to someone that kill. Go ahead Circasian so you criticise your country laugh to yourself, nobody is buying what you are saying.

Now lets talk about 30 million lives that Stal;in take, what you repeat everytimes. First of all it wasen't only Stalin but the Communist regime. Second it's not your Turkish palls that their intellectuals were killed, by the Bolshevics, the Armenians were victime of this, it's not the Turkish republic that 4 parts of it's territory has been taken and distributed to Azerbaijan and Georgia, it's Armenia, it's not Turkey that lost thousands of Soldiers and lives during WWII, serving against Germany entrence, at that time Germany was returning Talaat ashes to Turkey for Turkish celebrations of a national hero.

Now the 30 million, well it seam to me that the way you learned programming you never learned math with it. Go learn how this number come from and how it is calculated, this number is calculated, from a deficit type of calculi, the one used by Rummel, because of the extend of the Soviet regime, this mean that if because of the regime peoples died when they were 60 years old because of any kind of starvations, it's counted as death because of the regime, there was millions, and millions of death in WWII, the Ukrenian famine killed millions, these numbers are calculed as deficit, and because of the fact that in the first years of the communist era, the population grow has an exponentional type before that it equilibrate, and restart during the baby boomers, if the victimes are important before the baby boomers years, then you have a deficit very important.

If we had to do the same type of calculations for the Armenian population deficit from Ottoman era to now, we would find something like 20 million, because of the deficit per year is direcly linked to number of births, and this continue and it's exponencial. So when you have a system that control more then 100 million peoples, and that you extend it in a period of 75 years or more, with conditions such as WWII, you have a big deficit of population, then you take the numbers and you make a calculi. The most important is to have a number of victime per population per year, if you do this, then Armenians will end up of being near the head of the killed rate.

And also you forgot to mention that a big numbers of the victimes were because of Germany, Hitler was responsable of more then 25 million peoples death, and this for a little period of time of regime compared to the Communist one.

Our plea is valuated, but we don,t give a s*** that it's not valuated by fascists like you. You should return in Turkey, like were you were young, and were fervent Greywolf member, why you don,t go and become a true one now ?

Berj · June 7, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by circassian:

Berj
you are a bit of dinosour aren't you ?
my father cooked every sunday too.

circassians everywhere knows why we do not have our country & none of us make any bones about it.
Those who can do , will.

Yeah, I bet the history textbooks in Turkey say: "In ancient Turkey the turkosors were using PCs for communication with outside world and by natural course of the development into a modern society the male representatives of turkosors invented "how to cook Chicken Tikka?", which now is the criterion for the estimation of their modernity."

Well, your father was not a Circassian either I guess judging from your "none of us make bones about Circassia". If you do not care about "your" nation do not hint to us about how to serve our's.

Thouse who can, are dieing because of Turkey's provocations in Chechnia.

THOTH · June 8, 2001

quote:

Originally posted by circassian:

as we speak there are circassians dying in kosovo & chechnya.

they are killed by slav's ambition to reach & control mediterrenean.

you are bit shameless Thoth.

I had briefly taught that you were different since your own admission about " best friends " being turkish.

We are being killed by Ivan & all our neighbours(armenians) can talk about is what happened to them in 1915.

Ivan takes my home & he might come into your houses tomorrow.

nobody talks about 30 million lives that Stalin has took.

Varsa Yoksa ermeni cani , sanki baskasinin yasama hakki yok..

That's why your plea is not valued.

poor little Thoth ; he thinks he is being progressive & enlightened LOL.

First I think youare oversimplyfying. (the rational for persecutions/slaughter of Muslims in Chechnya and Kosovo). In each case you must be aware of the role of each group in instigation of conflict - though I agree with you and am in opposition to the "solution" enacted by both Serbs & Russians.

I know that you have not seen my various posts in other forums - but let me assure you I have been supportive of both Chechnyans and Kosovo Albanians (etc) (and Bosnian Muslims) against the atrocities being commited against them - and I have taken some heat from Orthodox for this. Again, I urge you to not presume that you know my positions/motivations etc.

I see no conflict - or reason to give up Armenian Genocide issue - because of tragedies such as this occuring today. As a matter of fact I see recognition of the Armenian Genocide as a positive step for prevention of and understanding of these type of crimes occuring today.

BTW - I share your concern(s) about the Russians - very much so. i wish them to be out of Caucuses entirely and leave the people there to themselves. Unfourtunatly - in current context - this would mean doom for Armenians - so yes - from a purely partisan (but hopefully temporary) perspective i must support some Russian involvement. And of course we can't just wish them away - now or in the future...it is their "near abroad" and they are a power and it will continue to be in their interest. What the Caucasian paoles must do is to find a way to coexist peacefully. Russia (and Turkey and Iran) will just have it easy with this divide and conquer approach under current circumstances..as they have had in the past....

I hope you agree - and I caution you to not presume to know my mind - or that of other Armenians. It seems that you have taken a rather partisan view as you accuse me/us. Perhaps it is you whose progressive rhetoric is perhaps not heartfelt.

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