MyTerrain Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Do we have any T 90s in our arsenal? If no why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Do we have any T 90s in our arsenal? If no why? Nope, they are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyTerrain Posted September 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Nope, they are expensive. How expensive? The Russians are already working on T 95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 How expensive? The Russians are already working on T 95. You're not comparing Armenia's economy with Russia's are you? We simply can't afford to buy a bunch of T-90s with our limited budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 How expensive? The Russians are already working on T 95. Something like 2.5 million each...if I remember correctly. Pretty pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyTerrain Posted September 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Something like 2.5 million each...if I remember correctly. Pretty pricey. We don't even have any T 80s according to wikipedia!! Pisses me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyethga Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 We don't even have any T 80s according to wikipedia!! Pisses me off. Seriously, we don't even have tanks that were produced in the old days of the Soviet Union, and you're asking if we got T-90s in our inventory?? Don't worry guys, they do upgrade these tanks. The Israelis and Chinese still have those T-55 junkers from the olden days but they're all heavily upgraded in armor and technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 did someone say 2.5 million is too much for Armenia? is 100 enough? you turn gagik tsarukyan upside down and 250 million will fall out of his pockets are you kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightOfArmenia Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 did someone say 2.5 million is too much for Armenia? is 100 enough? you turn gagik tsarukyan upside down and 250 million will fall out of his pockets are you kidding me? Except if you did that, you'd have cries of nationalization and communism from the Western world, and we'd lose the millions of aid we get from the United States immediately. Regarding OP: Tanks are not that vital for us, in all honesty. Tanks are mainly an offensive weapon, and we don't need any overwhelming offensive capability. Our land is mountainous (making it less useful for tanks), and our defensive positions are entrenched enough for some solid anti-tank weaponry to wreck havoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Artsakh's army alone has more tanks than Azerbaboonjan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightOfArmenia Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Artsakh's army alone has more tanks than Azerbaboonjan. Really? That's hard to believe - they've been dumping millions into their defense spending. Not that it would matter - we have a well-equipped and well-positioned army in entrenched mountainous land. The US army would have a hell of a time getting Artsakh now, let alone the Azeris. They won't be able to establish air superiority, so it'll be a land battle, and that will be in our favor. Though I pray it never comes to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-47 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Really? That's hard to believe - they've been dumping millions into their defense spending. Not that it would matter - we have a well-equipped and well-positioned army in entrenched mountainous land. The US army would have a hell of a time getting Artsakh now, let alone the Azeris. They won't be able to establish air superiority, so it'll be a land battle, and that will be in our favor. Though I pray it never comes to that. Yeah. In fact the only area in military that we are behind the baboons is Air. They have about 70 aircraft and we've got less than 20 (not counting the Russian operated MIGs in Gyumri). Of course, our air-defense is very strong so it makes up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 even the russians don't have many T-90s, and anyways, for all hype about them, they are nothing more than upgraded t-72s with some elements, (namely the engine) of the T-80 and a more modern firing system. armenia's T-72s (unlike georgia's) have been heavily upgraded usually with the ERA reactive armour upgrade, and much of armenia and NKRs arsenal has had some special armenian mods added. as ak-47 mentionned, they are somewhat too expensive for nothing. armenia has about a hundred and twenty T-72s, a few t-64s and i think 1 or 2 T-55s kept in storage since they are utterly useless in the realworld.i read somewhere that the NKR_DA has 316 tanks of all types, which is phenomenal, compared to azerbaijan's:286 T-72s and 224 T-55s(which is meaningless lol) i wouldn't mind seeing armenia invest in T-80s left over in russia or the urkaine, since they are of a much better quality than the T-72, or even the newer urkainian upgrade, the T-84, which is cheaper than the T-90 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UkrainianT84Tank.jpg Tanks are mainly an offensive weapon, and we don't need any overwhelming offensive capability. right, assuming the next war will be simply a deffencive war, but we may have to counter-attack, in case we need to retake lost territory, or take advantage of a weak enemy. also, the territory around agdam is quite flat, and thus tank-warfare would be quite prominent, and same for the terrain in Naxichevan. if war breaks out again, we may face threats from the south and beforced to act in the region. they've been dumping millions into their defense spending. most of it into the pockets of aliyev's friends In fact the only area in military that we are behind the baboons is Air. They have about 70 aircraft and we've got less than 20 well, armenia has bought some 30 mig 29MUs recently and has like 25 Su-35s, which are both pretty recent aircraft. azerbaijan has a larger airforce but alot of their arsenal is outdated anyways, safe for their armenian designed Mig-29 As, and they have been contracting a deal with pakistan on some new fighters, which are really no match to the MIGs, and are just an excuse for a mass produced aircraft. anyways, i read somewhere that a military analysist had said that you will know if the azeris are seriously contemplating an invasion if they being to buy attack helicopters. because as mentionned fighter-bombers of soviet design are not really capable of precise ground support especially in the mountains, only attack helicopters can help (and are also more vulnerable..hehe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z'areh Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Do we have any T 90s in our arsenal? If no why? Pardon me MyTerrain, I can't quite comprehend your genuine worries about Armenia's defense capabilities but at the same time proudly displaying the flag of Serbia in your name/profile when Serbia has voted with Azerbaijan against Armenia, along with an array of Muslim countries, in that pitiful UN resolution calling for resolving the Artsakh issue within Azerbaijan's territorial integrity. I am amazed to see that after all that we've been through, there is still exists these false aspirations by some Armenians of a wish for false "Orthodox brotherhood". A dichotomy between theory (religious affiliation) and practice (whorish realpolotik) is clearly spelled out to us and therefore its about time we stopped licking others' arses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyTerrain Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Pardon me MyTerrain, I can't quite comprehend your genuine worries about Armenia's defense capabilities but at the same time proudly displaying the flag of Serbia in your name/profile when Serbia has voted with Azerbaijan against Armenia, along with an array of Muslim countries, in that pitiful UN resolution calling for resolving the Artsakh issue within Azerbaijan's territorial integrity. I am amazed to see that after all that we've been through, there is still exists these false aspirations by some Armenians of a wish for false "Orthodox brotherhood". A dichotomy between theory (religious affiliation) and practice (whorish realpolotik) is clearly spelled out to us and therefore its about time we stopped licking others' arses. Hello bro, I agree with you that what their government is doing is simply perverse but those crooks arrested their heroic general Karadzic thereby betraying the Serbian people, how can you expect those scum not to betray us? But the Serbian people are a different story I have like 400 Serbs in my friends list on youtube and all of them support us and hate the turd shit. They disagree with their Bolshevik government that is kissing NATO ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 there is still exists these false aspirations by some Armenians of a wish for false "Orthodox brotherhood". A dichotomy between theory (religious affiliation) and practice (whorish realpolotik) took the words right out of my mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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