Armenia vs Turkey soccer match

[Boghos]

http://www.livesoccertv.com/match/58136/armenia-vs-turkey/

[Harut]

never used this site before, but supposed to be free...

 

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat6.9/Armenia_Turkey.html

[24avril1915]

It's Free but must register :

 

http://football.direct8.fr

 

 

[ED]

does anybody heard the results yet? must be over by now

[hyethga]

0-2

 

Wow the Armenian team sucks.

 

Can we, like, have the 1973 Ararat team back?

[Armen Half-Celt]

Consiering that we held a team 86 places above us in the rankings until minute 60, I don't think it is too bad. At least it wasn't 3-0 like the games against the last teams we held over an hour were.

[Yervant1]

Both teams had the butterflies early on. The set plays were terrible for both teams, Turkey had the edge and Armenia lacked defence.

Armenia had no attack plan against a better Turkish defence and the goals were not that great, may be the second goal.

[hyethga]

What was Sarkisyan thinking, inviting Gul?

 

I swear, our leaders.......*shakes head*

[ED]

Armenia lost 2-0

[DominO123]

What was Sarkisyan thinking, inviting Gul?

 

I swear, our leaders.......*shakes head*

 

Have you not read all the press from Azerbaijan? That alone worthed it.

 

We'll have fun with this sort of news in the upcomming days.

 

 

Trend News Agency, Azerbaijan

Sept 6 2008

 

 

 

Turkish President's Visit to Yerevan Shakes Entire Turkic World

06.09.08 11:51

 

 

Azerbaijan, Baku, 6 September /corr. Trend News R.Hafizoglu /

Federation of Turkish-Azerbaijani Communities condemned Turkish

President Abdulla Gul's visit to Yerevan.

 

The Head of Federation of Turkish-Azerbaijani communities, MP Yuchel

Artantash, said: `President's visit made the Armenians glad, but shook

the Turkic world supporting Azerbaijan,' Turkish Anadolu agency

reported.

 

`Any citizen who supports Azerbaijan and is familiar with the

veritable face of the Armenians must protest against this visit,'

Artantash said. The Turkish MP also said that the friendship bridge

suggested by the Armenians exists by 24 April - day of fictional

`genocide'.

 

`The Armenians, who is enmity with the Turks, claimed for Turkic

lands, occupied territory of Azerbaijan, can not be friends. And

therefore, I call upon all to protest against Abdulla Gul's visit to

Yerevan,' Artantash said.

 

[AK-47]

Have you not read all the press from Azerbaijan? That alone worthed it.

 

We'll have fun with this sort of news in the upcomming days.

This one is my favourite so far

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Azeri Democratic Party: Turkey always betrayed Azerbaijan

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Turkey has always pursued its own objectives, an Azeri politician said.

 

In the beginning of last century it changed 3 military blocs. First, it was a member of the Entente and fought against Italy, then it joined the Tripartite Alliance and fought against the Entente. When these two blocs collapsed, Turkey threw itself into Russia's arms," said Sardar Jalaloglu, head of the Democratic Party of Azerbaijan.

 

Turkey always betrayed Azerbaijan. "It started was against Safavids and then surrendered our republic in early 20th century. Now Gul goes to Armenia. It's in Turkey's habit to betray Azerbaijan. We should not be surprised but should build our policy to avoid cataclysms," he said, 1news.az reports.

 

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=26948

[hyethga]

Knowing Armenian politicians, I fear this is just more short-sighted thinking on the part of our leaders.

[Zartonk]

MAN....

 

[MosJan]

Gul invited Sargsyan to Istanbul to watch return match between Turkish and Armenian teams 06.09.2008 21:59 GMT+04:00 http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_print.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_mail.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_rus.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_arm.gif /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenia's President Serzh Sarsgyan met Saturday with his Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul, who arrived in Yerevan to watch a World Cup qualifying match between the Armenian and Turkish national teams, the RA leader's press office told PanARMENIAN.Net.

 

Thanking Mr Gul forn accepting the invitation, President Sarsgyan said that direct contacts are the only effective way to establish relations.

 

For his part, the Turkish President invited Sargsyan to Istanbul to watch a return match between Turkish and Armenian teams.

 

The top officials discussed possibilities to normalize bilateral relations and exchanged views on regional issues, stressing that political will can help to resolve the problems and creation of atmosphere of trust.

 

"Mr Sargsyan made the first step. Acceptance of the invitation originated a joint initiative that can be exemplary for the whole region," Gul said.

 

 

[MosJan]

Europe wants to assume credit for Armenian-Turkish dialog 08.09.2008 16:26 GMT+04:00 http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_print.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_mail.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_rus.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_arm.gif /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Europe wants to assume the credit for Armenian-Turkish dialog, a Russian expert said.

 

“As a matter of fact, the European Union has nothing to do with it. The presidential meeting is the result of pragmatism manifested by the Armenian authorities,” Sergei Markedonov, head of the interethnic relations department at the institute of political and military analysis, told a PanARMENIAN.Net reporter.

 

“Armenia should break the isolation and can talks even with Turkey for the purpose,” he added.

 

French President Nicolas Sarkozy welcomed Saturday Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul’s visit to neighboring Armenia as "courageous and historic".

 

"While the region is in the midst of a serious crisis, (his visit) is a courageous and historic gesture for Turkish-Armenian relations," Sarkozy, who currently holds the European Unions rotating presidency, said in a statement "It allows hope for progress soon in establishing normal relations between Turkey and Armenia," he said.

 

 

[MosJan]

French President welcomed political courage of Gul and Sargsyan 08.09.2008 15:45 GMT+04:00 http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_print.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_mail.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_rus.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_arm.gif /PanARMENIAN.Net/ French President Nicolas Sarkozy welcomed Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gul’s visit to neighboring Armenia as "courageous and historic".

 

"While the region is in the midst of a serious crisis, (his visit) is a courageous and historic gesture for Turkish-Armenian relations," Sarkozy, who currently holds the European Unions rotating presidency, said in a statement "It allows hope for progress soon in establishing normal relations between Turkey and Armenia," he added.

 

Gul made his landmark visit to Turkey’s eastern neighbor - the first by a Turkish head of state to the ex-Soviet nation - for the first of two World Cup qualifiers between the two national teams.

 

"We hope we will be able to demonstrate goodwill to solve the problems between our countries and not leave them to future generations," Armenian President Sargsyan said after the meeting with his Turkish counterpart.

 

Sarkozy paid "tribute to the political courage of President Gul and President Sargsyan" and said he was hoping that reaching out will allow both countries to show the world that "reconciliation is possible through openness, dialogue and the respect of others," the AP reports.

 

 

[MosJan]

Sergei Karaganov: Russia wants Turkey-Armenia reconciliation 08.09.2008 13:47 GMT+04:00 http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_print.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_mail.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_rus.gif http://www.panarmenian.net/news/images/ico_arm.gif /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Russia is interested in normalization of the Armenian-Turkish relations, said Sergei Karaganov, chairman of the presidium of the council for foreign policy and defense.

 

He voiced hope that cooperation between the two states can ensure stability in the region. “Hostility between Armenia and Turkey has always been a factor influencing the world policy. This presidential meeting is a historical event, which means that the ice has been broken,” he told the Echo of Moscow.

 

“It’s evident that the two countries are trying to reconcile because they feel the necessity to unite to face new challenges and regional instability,” he said.

 

Turkey’s President Abdullah Gul was in Yerevan on Sept. 6 to watch a World Cup qualifier between the Armenian and Turkish national teams. Before the match, the heads of state discussed possibilities to normalize bilateral relations.

 

 

[hyethga]

We lost to Spain too http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-09/...ent_9920364.htm

 

 

 

[MosJan]

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Football builds bridges between Turkey and Armenia September 6, 2008, 9:49

Football builds bridges between Turkey and Armenia

Turkey’s President Abdullah Gul is making a landmark visit to Armenia after a long-running diplomatic stand-off between the two countries. He will attend the World Cup qualifying game between the two countries in the capital Yerevan on Saturday, in the first visit of a Turkish head of state to Armenia for more than 70 years.

 

Abdullah Gul’s visit has already been dubbed 'highly historic and symbolic', and could become a fresh start in relations between the countries that have been marred by hostility for nearly 100 years.

 

The sticking point goes as far back as World War I.

 

Armenia claims the genocide of its people was carried out by the Ottoman Empire, putting the number of dead at 1.5 million.

 

“May God forgive me but I cannot and will not forgive and forget until the Turkish government accepts the fact of genocide and offers us a simple apology. It’s not about compensation and it’s not about lands,” says historian Sergey Kalendzhyan.

 

Turkey says the figure is exaggerated, claiming around 300,000 died, and those were casualties of war. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkish Prime Minister, said: “Our society and our culture have never embraced anything resembling the concept of genocide. It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of various countries.”

 

Many historians agree that the actions of the Ottoman Empire could be interpreted as genocide and 21 governments have recognised the atrocities as well, including Russia, Germany and France.

 

The claims have also hampered Turkey’s efforts to join the EU - although the recognition of genocide isn't a condition, there have been numerous calls for it.

 

But Turkey remains adamant that those deaths were all war casualties and although it recognised Armenia's independence following the collapse of the Soviet Union, the two countries have never established diplomatic ties.

 

A range of other issues, such as Armenia's armed conflict with Turkish ally Azerbaijan over the ethnic enclave of Nagorno-Artsax, have also strained ties and eventually led to the closing of the 330 km border between the two countries in 1993.

 

But now it’s hoped football might help relations improve. Turks are enjoying several days of visa free entry to Armenia in order to attend the football match.

[MosJan]

 

Armenia and Turkey build diplomatic bridge September 7, 2008, 5:08

Armenia and Turkey build diplomatic bridge

The president of Turkey has completed an historic visit to neighbouring Armenia in a move that could see a thaw in relations between the two countries. Abdullah Gul travelled to Yerevan to see a World Cup football qualifier between the Turkish and Armenian national football teams. The Turkish leader invited his Armenian counterpart, Serzh Sargsyan, to Istanbul for the return match.

 

The meeting of the two presidents has been dubbed 'historic and highly symbolic'.

 

Turkey won the game 2-0, but the score was of secondary importance. It's the first time in more than 70 years a high-ranking Turkish official has set foot in Armenia.

 

The neighboring countries have no diplomatic ties and their shared border has been closed for fifteen years.

 

Security was tight in the Armenian capital for the visit and thousands of protesters lined the streets demanding that Turkey admit the mass killing of Armenians in 1915.

 

Armenia claims 1.5 million of its people were killed in a genocide carried out by the Ottoman Empire during World War One. Turkey denies the claims, saying the number of dead was closer to 300,000. It also says those killed were war casualties rather than the victims of genocide.

 

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/30056

[MosJan]

NATO PA PRESIDENT APPRECIATED SERZH SARGSYAN'S FOOTBALL DIPLOMACY

• http://www.armtown.com/img/photo/pan_en_27081.jpgArmenian President Serzh Sargsyan met Wednesday with NATO PA President Jose Lello, the RA leader's press office reported. Appreciating highly the level of cooperation with NATO, President Sargsyan said it's one of constituents of Armenia's security. "The IPAP offers Armenia a possibility to bring its security system in line with international standards," he said. For his part Mr Lello said NATO hopes for dynamic cooperation with Armenia and praised the Armenian leader's footfall diplomacy. "Our goal is to establish rational and logical relations with Turkey for the welfare of our nations and the entire region," the Armenian President remarked.

[Armen Half-Celt]

Personally, I thought it was a very noble gesture to make the invitation. I was glad he accepted it too. And to be perfectly honest, I sometimes find it amsuing seeing some Turkish people vritually screaming that Gul was a traitor and so forth.

 

Meanwhile, as far as the Spain game goes

 

Lets say its rare than anyone is that badly outclassed. At least it was not as bad as the other game in our group that day: Bosnia-Herzegovina 7-0 Estonia.

Edited September 25, 2008 by Armen Half-Celt