Comedistan

[Arpa]

Who remembers this ?

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14660&hl=wall

 

[MosJan]

AZERI MINISTER COMES FROM NOYEMBERYAN

 

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After the October 1, 2008, Presidential election in Azerbaijan Shahin Mustafayev replaced Heydar Babayev on the position of Minister of Economic Development.

 

According to Day.az "the new minister was born in the region of Noyemberyan in Western Azerbaijan."

 

Azeris have developed a bad habit of "appropriating and distorting their neighbour's history and culture." The region of Noyemberyan belongs to Armenia from ancient times. Recently some spiritual and historic building on the frontier region have been captured by Azeris, among them the church of St. Sarkis built by Mesrop Mashtots.

 

Kamut TV, Noyemberyan

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Forgive me for bringing this highly serious commentary here under Comedistan.

My reason is to highlight some passages below. Perhaps we can learn a lesson or two in responding to the “ridiculous mockery” instead of getting bent all out of shape every time a furkish comedian passes some fetid gas. We should learn to respond to “farts” with even more “aromatic” ones and see whose smells better. Even more hilarious is that the judge’s name “ozsu” , which in fact means “pure water” is very reminiscent of their favorite word “osurukh”.

A long time ago, before the invention of paper, pencil, radio, TV and the internet, when there were very few means of entertainment, on clear summer nights the men would convene around a flat rock and have a what they called “osurukh mejlisi”**, i.e “farting contest“. Yes, they did talk about politics, economics and, of course the AG.But the highlight of the evening would be, who can produce the loudest and the most “aromatic wind".

**BTW, the Armenian word for that Arabo-Perso-furko word is "nist /նիստ", sitting.

Can we learn a lesson and rename “TARC”- furkish Armenian Reconcilliation Committee as “FART”- Fart Aroma Rating Tribunal?

Nov. 6 2008. Commentary Turkish Judge Publicly Criticizes Denial of Armenian Genocide By Harut Sassounian Publisher, The California Courier Scores of highly sympathetic articles about the Armenian Genocide have appeared in the Turkish press in recent months, despite Turkey's repressivelaws that make it a crime to discuss this taboo subject. One such article appeared in the October 30 issue of the liberal newspaper Taraf. It was authored by a very unlikely writer -- Judge Faruk Ozsu from Odemish, near Izmir. This is probably the first time that a sitting Turkish judge publicly expresses such daring thoughts in violation of article 301 of the penal code. He criticizes and mocks the Turkish government's distorted version of the Armenian Genocide that has been fed to the public for decades. Judge Ozsu asserts that Turkish denialists contradict themselves by first denying that anything happened in 1915 and then stating that those killings were committed "in defense of the homeland." Referring to the three Turks, recently sentenced by a Swiss Court for denying the Armenian Genocide, Judge Ozsu writes that contrary to widespread Turkish misrepresentation Switzerland did not restrict freedom of expression, but in fact upheld human dignity. Moreover, he ridicules all those who claim that "from the point of view of freedom of expression, Turkey is more advanced that Switzerland" -- a statement he characterizes as a hilarious comedy! In his judgment, those toeing the official Turkish line on the Armenian Genocide are "blind patriots" who accuse of treason anyone expressing the slightest human sensibility on this subject. Judge Ozsu describes himself as "a simple man who has not lost his conscience, despite his nationalistic education." He explains that since Switzerland has acknowledged 1915 as genocide, everyone in that country is obliged to obey the law of the land. He goes on to quote Elie Wiesel as saying that the denial of genocide is the continuation of genocide. That is why, the Judge writes,"it is mandatory that denial be deemed a crime." The Honorable Judge further contends that the denial of genocide is unrelated to the scholarly investigation of facts. He condemns French historian Gilles Weinstein and Turkish Professor Baskin Oran for claiming that "there are no documents proving that the killings were committed according to a government plan, therefore it is not possible to qualify these events as genocide." In the Judge's view, those making such comments are simply trying to save their necks from "the claws of article 301." In a direct reference to Dogu Perincek who was convicted by the Swiss Supreme Court last year for denying the Armenian Genocide, Judge Ozsu made the following observations: -- "Perincek's association bears the name of Talaat ***** who is viewed as a 'Turkish Hitler.'" -- "Those who declare that the Armenian Genocide is 'an imperialist lie,' show no respect for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, but exclaim: 'Long live the Ittihadists; we were right [to kill the Armenians] and we can do the same thing now,' then the only person who will pay attention to them isa Swiss judge." -- "Disputing the genocide, making racist statements, and praising the commission of a crime is now a legal issue in Switzerland, and not an attempt to seek the truth through scientific inquiry." To be sure, the Judge takes a dim view of his country's educational system which keeps Turks in a state of ignorance about 1915, while people outside Turkey, who have not had a "Turkish education," view things differently. Explaining that the term genocide was coined by a Polish-Jewish attorney named Raphael Lemkin in 1933, in the aftermath of the Armenian Genocide, and before the Holocaust had taken place, which means that "the Genocide Convention signedby Turkey was inspired by the Armenian Genocide." The Judge is particularly irate at the Turkish government's insensitivity toward the mass killings of Armenians. He states: "The official Turkish position is that during the war Armenians from certain regions were temporarily sentto the Southern region and during that period about 300,000 Armenians perished due to different circumstances. Any Turk who has not been through 'Turkish education' and has kept his conscience intact, upon hearing the 300,000 figure, would say, 'Oh My God' and will start thinking about that number." Consequently, the Judge suggests that the first thing Turks should do is "to state that we feel terrible regarding these events=80¦. Those who diedat that time were not our enemies, but our citizens. Some of those who died were children. No one can speak of children as enemies." Judge Ozsu concludes: "The Swiss Court's verdict is neither against democracy nor freedom of expression. Switzerland simply does not allow the events leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people to be characterized by racist and insensitive words that insult people's dignity. Switzerland simply does not allow that the victim be victimized for a second time!" Given the Turkish government's well-established record of punishing all factual references to the Armenian Genocide, we fear that this righteous judge may be dismissed from his job and even get imprisoned for simply telling the truth!

Edited November 4, 2008 by Arpa

[Arpa]

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/lk_obama_sama500.jpg

As promised we bring booboos and oopses wherever they may be. Here is one from NewYorkistan.

BTW. Troy’s mayor is Harry Tutunjian , he is very popular doing wonders for the city. Another tidbit. Harry's father was born in one of the Armenian enclaves of Aleppo where LTP was aso born.

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Oh! BTW. There was a follow up to that story that it was the fault of MS-Spellecheck that did not recognize "Obama" and cahnged it to "Osama"

Hi Seep, MsoJna and Argo!!.

Yes. MS-SP tries to correct my screen name to "para" as well.

Edited November 4, 2008 by Arpa

[Arpa]

I got a kick out of this headline of yesterday.

“Bush sends Rice to India”.

Sometimes we underestimate him. He knows that rice is the staple food of India!

 

[Arpa]

If only lies would be a capital crime!!!

This would be funny if it were not sad!

“Armenian invaders”? Sure. Armenians just descended, “invaded” from the moon!

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State Telegraph Agency of the Republic of Azerbaijan

November 27, 2008 Thursday

NEW BOOK ON KARABAKH PUBLISHED

Baku 27 November

A book entitled Karabakh eternal memory of our heritage by researcher

Aydin Mammadov (Karabakhski), has just been published in Baku. The

book reveals the past and the present of Nagorno-Karabakhs historical

monuments and archeological samples, many of which have been fully

destroyed by Armenian invaders. The book also contains over 300

pictures and photos of Karabakh monuments and sights. This new book on

Karabakh is supported by the Azerbaijan Ministry of Culture and

Tourism and is available in two languages Azerbaijani and English.

 

 

 

[MosJan]

BAKU CONVINCED TEERY DAVIS OF “DESTRUCTION OF AZERI MONUMENTS” IN KARABAKH?

 

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“Destruction of historical monuments in the occupied territories” of Azerbaijan is a blow to Azerbaijan, Europe and the entire world, the Council of Europe Secretary General said Tuesday in Baku. Mr. Terry Davis regretted protraction of PACE mission dispatch to Azerbaijan and Armenia. “The sides differ on the issue. So, the Council of Europe suggests that the mission should make the things clear,” he said, Trend Azeri news agency reports. It’s worth noting that the mission’s arrival has been several times frustrated owing to Azerbaijan’s demand that the European officials visit Nagorno Karabakh via the territory of Azerbaijan, what is impossible and absolutely inadmissible for the Armenian side.

[Arpa]

Do you know what “bats in the belfry“means?

Boy! Are these clowns getting batty!!

http://www.masterpiecepumpkins.com/Graphic...1.5)_____PM.jpg

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/bats-in-the-belfry.html

A picture of that joker of a mayor;

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Posted: Tue., Nov. 11, 2008, 1:26pm PT

Mayor of Batman sues WB, Nolan

Southeastern city in Turkey fights for name

By ALI JAAFAR

Batman has a new adversary: Batman.

The mayor of an oil-producing city in southeastern Turkey, which has the same name as the Caped Crusader, is suing helmer Christopher Nolan and Warner Bros. for royalties from mega-grosser "The Dark Knight."

Huseyin Kalkan, the pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party mayor of Batman, has accused "The Dark Knight" producers of using the city's name without permission.

"There is only one Batman in the world," Kalkan said. "The American producers used the name of our city without informing us."

No one from the town of Batman has explained why it took so many years to take legal action. Batman first appeared as a comicbook character in 1939 and the "Batman" TV series started in 1966. Tim Burton's first bigscreen rendition for Warner Bros. came out in 1989. Undoubtedly the fact that "Dark Knight" is about to pass the $1 billion mark at the B.O. played a part in stirring the ire of the Turkish hamlet.

The mayor is prepping a series of charges against Nolan and Warner Bros., which owns the right to the Batman character, including placing the blame for a number of unsolved murders and a high female suicide rate on the psychological impact that the film's success has had on the city's inhabitants.

Former natives of Batman are also said to have encountered obstacles when attempting to register their businesses abroad.

The mayor is working on gathering evidence he claims will show that the city of Batman predates the 1939 debut of Bob Kane's superhero in DC Comics.

"We are only aware of this claim via press reports and have not seen any actual legal action," a Warner Bros. rep said in a statement.

While the town of Batman has suddenly shown great interest in the property, there's no evidence that the citizenry has ever shown much loyalty to the Caped Crusader -- not even on Halloween.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117995653.html

Edited December 11, 2008 by Arpa

[Yervant1]

Another comedy with realistic outcome.

 

 

WORLD FINANCIAL CRISIS MADE AZERBAIJAN'S FUTURE RATHER VAGUE

 

PanARMENIAN.Net

10.12.2008 16:09 GMT+04:00

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Caspian oil and gas makes 4 per cent and 7 per

cent of the world resources respectively, what is undoubtedly not

enough to boast a glut of wealth, a French expert said.

 

"Two thirds of the oil world resources are concentrated in the

Middle East, a high-risk zone. As to Azerbaijan, it has 7 billion

barrels. To compare, Turkmenistan has 1 billion while Kazakhstan has

40 million. So, any oil pipeline from the Caspian region to Europe

is non-remunerative without Kazakh oil. Furthermore, Kazakhstan

can choose routes. Kazakh pipelines can stretch to Russian, China,

Persian Gulf and finally to Baku," Petros Terzian, head of Paris-based

strategic research foundation, said in Yerevan on Tuesday.

 

"The oil fields in Azeri, Shirag and Gyuneshli will be exhausted

in some 10 years. Moreover, after the status of the Caspian Sea is

determined, investments in oil extraction will become unprofitable,"

he said.

 

Mr. Terzian reminded that Azerbaijan's current oil income is equal

to the republic's state debt.

 

"Baku can make a breakthrough with $100 for a barrel, what is,

however, hardly probable for near-term outlook. The world financial

crisis made Azerbaijan's future rather vague," he said.

 

 

 

[Ashot]

Rabbi traces lost Jews

The Head Rabbi in the Netherlands has announced the start of a search for Jews who don't know that they are Jews.

 

Benjamin Jacobs, who has been serving in the Netherlands since 1986, says there are many Jews in Holland who have no idea of their real backgrounds. He says many Jews were brought up by Christians during the Holocaust.

 

"I was amazed after realizing that people were born, grew up and died without knowing about their true roots," Jacobs says.

 

Hundreds of Dutch families took in Jewish children who either survived the holocaust or whose parents were killed by the Nazis.

 

The Rabbi sees hope in being able to find these people and help them to understand their past.

 

"There are enough archived documents that can shed light on the location of these children, many of whom are already quite elderly," Jacobs says.

 

note: what is this? it's funny, very funny - but this is something that our Armenians might consider looking into... something that we should do worldwide - tell people that they are Armenians and they should be Christian too... I think we could get a huge support from the Christians all over the world - promote Christians and tell them they are Armenian!!! Hit two birds with one bullet!

[Arpa]

Dear Ashot, can you please move, repost it here so we can have all the stand-up comics under one roof so to speak?

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=17...mp;#entry252811

Not to forget that his ilk invented the art of comedy, read that book of trash aka Old Testament.

Edited December 11, 2008 by Arpa

[Ashot]

we are going to ask our Arch axper to do it!

 

Arch axper karoghes teghapoxel Arpai asats tegh@ miqich tsitsaghenq!

[ED]

oh man........and this idiot was our president for 8 years

 

 

[MosJan]

yes chem arel azniv xosq !!!

 

 

 

 

Ed es esora patahel te hin bana ? ??

[MosJan]

Bush Ducks Shoes Thrown in Iraqi Leader’s Office (Update3)

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By Edwin Chen

 

Dec. 14 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush ducked two shoes thrown at him by a man during a press conference in the Iraqi prime minister’s office to mark the signing of a security agreement.

 

Bush wasn’t hit by the shoes, which both sailed over his head after they were thrown one after the other. The president shrugged and said “I’m OK” after the incident in Baghdad today. “All I can report is it is a size 10,” Bush said afterwards.

 

In Arab culture, throwing shoes is a grave show of disrespect. “This is the farewell kiss, you dog,” the man shouted in Arabic.

 

After U.S. troops pulled down a statue of former dictator Saddam Hussein in 2003, Iraqi bystanders tossed shoes at it, according to news reports at the time. Bush said today’s incident was an example of free speech in a democracy.

 

The man threw the shoes from about 25 feet away as Bush, standing with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, made formal remarks before the signing of the Iraqi-U.S. agreement. Maliki tried to block the second thrown shoe as it flew toward Bush, according to video of the incident shown on television.

 

Wrestled to Ground

 

The shoe-thrower, who was in a group of journalists, was wrestled to the ground and taken away. “This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq,” shouted the man, later identified by the Associated Press as Muntadar al-Zeidi, a correspondent for Al-Baghdadia television, an Iraqi- owned station based in Cairo, Egypt.

 

At the signing ceremony, Bush said a free and democratic Iraq will now become “a force for freedom” and a “source of stability in a volatile region.”

 

“There is still more work to be done,” Bush said. “The war is not over.” The president said that with the agreement, “and the courage of the Iraqi people, and the Iraqi troops, and American troops and civilian personnel, it is decisively on its way to being won.”

 

Bush arrived today in Baghdad on a surprise visit -- his last to Iraq as commander-in-chief -- to celebrate the agreement, thank U.S. troops and meet with Iraqi leaders.

 

It was Bush’s fourth visit to a nation transformed by the U.S.-led war he started in 2003. It follows three weeks after Iraq’s parliament approved an accord with the U.S. that provides for the withdrawal of American troops by the end of 2011.

 

Obama’s Plan

 

President-elect Barack Obama has said one of his first acts as commander-in-chief would be to direct his military commanders to begin withdrawing troops “as quickly as we can” while maintaining stability in Iraq, ensuring the safety of U.S. troops and preventing a resurgence of terrorism.

 

The president has made three previous unannounced trips to Iraq -- on Thanksgiving 2003, June 13, 2006, and Sept. 3, 2007.

 

While those earlier trips were intended largely to bolster troop morale and shore up domestic support for the unpopular war, Bush’s latest Iraq visit amounted to a valedictory appearance. He leaves office on Jan. 20.

 

Bush ended his visit to Baghdad by addressing more than 1,000 troops at Camp Victory, the staging area in Baghdad for U.S. forces. He was greeted by cheers and whoops inside the late Saddam Hussein’s Al Faw palace, where he stood beneath an American flag that reached nearly to the rotunda of the palace.

 

The surge of additional U.S. troops sent to Iraq early last year to quell sectarian violence has been “one of the greatest successes in the history of the United States military,” Bush said.

 

To contact the reporter on this story: Edwin Chen in Baghdad at echen32@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: December 14, 2008 16:21 EST

 

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Flying shoe.

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Shoo fly don’t bother me;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbWa83RXFdM...feature=related

Throwing a shoe is one of the worst insults not only in those parts of the world but most everywhere. It is usually thrown at whining and barking dogs at night.

Remember Khruschev pounding his shoe?

http://www.machacas.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/khrushchev_shoe1.jpg

Edited December 15, 2008 by Arpa

[Yervant1]

oh man........and this idiot was our president for 8 years

 

 

Looked like a scene from the movies of the Three Stooges!

[Johannes]

«Ես կը հաւատամ, որ այս լրագրողը իրաքցի ժողովուրդը չի ներկայացներ»

Ջորջ Բուշ (կրտսեր)

[Azat]

Looked like a scene from the movies of the Three Stooges!

 

 

here you go Yervant jan

 

[Yervant1]

here you go Yervant jan

Good one! Did you know he is Canadian?

[Arpa]

HO HO HO HA HA HA HO HUM!

Here is Santayollah;

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pics/Feedback...vi_Khomeini.jpg

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...Y0fbogD95BQAR00

Sarajevans protest Santa Claus ban

The Associated Press

Sunday, December 28, 2008; 11:36 AM

SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina -- Hundreds of Bosnians have protested against a recent ban on Santa Claus in the city's kindergartens.

The directors of Sarajevo's day-care centers, kindergartens and preschools banned Santa. They argued that the capital is predominantly Muslim and Santa Claus is not part of the Muslim tradition.

A multi-religious mix of parents, children and others blew whistles on a downtown square on Sunday and requested Santa be restored to the children. Many protesters wore Santa Claus hats.

Santa is known locally as Father Frost and has given out presents to generations of Bosnian children in schools, kindergartens and other institutions. This was done even during communist rule and was always tied to New Year's celebrations. The demonstrators say that makes it a Bosnian tradition

 

 

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HOLY HOAX

Holohoax? How about Holy Hoax!

Use you imagination. See that the perpetrator of the “hoax” is an heir to those others who claim to have written the Bible, and claim it to be an actual historical science. How many more “hoaxes” have they written and still are writing that the rest of us “idiots” take as the “Gospel Truth”? That Palestine is the “promised land”. Promised by whom, to whom?

Is it Hava Na gila or Have a Tequila?

Ի Վերին Երուսաղէմ!!!

Ի վերին Երուսաղէմ,

ի բնակարանս հրեշտակաց,

ուր Ենովք եւ Եղիաս

կան ծերացեալ աղաւնակերպ

ի դրախտին Եդեմական

պայծառացեալ արժանապէս:

Ողորմած Տէր, ողորմեա

հոգւոցն մեր ննջեցելոց:

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Touching Holocaust Story A Hoax

Dec. 29, 2008

(CBS) The publication of a holocaust memoir called "Angel at the Fence" has been canceled. It was written by Herman Rosenblat, a holocaust survivor, but his story was too good to be true.

The Rosenblat's marriage seemed tailor-made for movies and memoirs, reports CBS News correspondent Kelly Cobiella. A love story born in Hitler's Europe at a German labor camp.

"I saw a little girl on the other side of the barbed wire," Herman Rosenblat said.

Twelve-year-old Herman was a prisoner, the girl on the other side, he said -- his savior.

"She took out an apple out of her jacket and she threw it over the fence," Herman said. "I grabbed the apple and I ran."

Years later Rosenblat, now an adult, said he met that same girl on a blind date in New York.

"And that was it," Herman said. "I knew right then and there we were going to get married." The story inspired a children's book, two appearances on the Oprah Winfrey show, a movie deal and memoir in the works and countless interviews.

Some historians believed him too, but one recently raised red flags. The timeline, he said, didn't work, and the fence was too high. On Saturday, Berkley Books canceled Rosenblat's memoir "Angel at the Fence." In a statement he admitted his version of history was fiction.

Fellow Holocaust survivor Sidney Finkel appeared on the Oprah show with Rosenblat last year.

"I regret I didn't have the courage to really face him with it because I wasn't really 100 percent sure, but I pretty well knew that it was a made up story," Finkel said.

Rosenblat did survive a concentration camp, and his 50-year marriage to Roma is real. A seemingly unrepentant Rosenblat says he made up the rest to bring people happiness and hope..

Holocaust scholar Michael Berenbaum sat down with Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez to discuss the implications of the revelation that the Rosenblat's story was fiction. To view, click the Play button below.

Edited December 30, 2008 by Arpa

[Yervant1]

This is too funny to pass!!!!!!!!!

 

 

ALPAY AHMED: "UNDER THE SLOGAN OF DEFENDING ITS POPULATION, ISRAEL IS HOLDING A POLICY OF MASS TERMINATION OF CIVILIANS"

 

Today.Az

 

Jan 7 2009

Azerbaijan

 

After reading the recent interview of Oqtay Atakhan, regarding events

in the Gaza strip, one can think that the speaker is not the chairman

of the Humanist party of Azerbaijan, but a representative of the

ultra-radical Israeli party "Shas", which is absolutely rejecting

the interests of Arabians in this region.

 

"Historian" Atakhan says in open that "this is an ancient land of

Jews", implying Gaza, where fierce fights are currently held. Most

historians, including Jewish scientists, consider that both Jews and

Arabians lived in this land since ancient. Love to Jews and antipathy

towards Arabians led this "specialist on genetics" to the conclusion

that Arabians have a kinship with Armenians and we, Azerbaijanis, with

Jews. But when we further see his reaction on the events in the region,

it becomes obvious that the cynicism of this person has no boundaries.

 

How can a chairman of the so-called "Humanistic party of Azerbaijan"

close eyes on the brutal atrocities against civilians in Gaza? How

can "a humanist" justify termination of families, firing at schools,

hospitals, kindergartens, where women and children are hiding from air

offensive, calling it the obliged measures of self-defense by Israel?

 

One needs not be a military specialists to see that the aim of

the Tel-Aviv's policy is not only termination of Hamas, but also

intimidation of the Arabian population, suppression of the spirit of

resistance. It is not clear for a person, who "has long been watching

the conflict" that under the slogan of defending its population,

Israel is holding a policy of mass termination of civilians?

 

I do not support Hamas' policy, but it should be noted for justice

that on the whole this movement did not violate ceasefire for a

year. In late December of the last year, denouncing this regime, it

sent several rockets to Israel, where some people were just slightly

wounded. But there was an opportunity for resumption of further talks

for the resolution of this conflict.

 

The murder of about 600 people can not be justified referring to the

need to defend civilians in Israel. Atakhan did not say a word about

hundreds of killed Arabians, perhaps because of their kinship to

Armenians. He is far from the concept of Muslim solidarity, for his

antipathy to Islam as a religion is well known. But when a person,

who calls himself "a humanist" is indifferent to cruelty towards

civilians, he can be called no one but a cynic.

 

 

 

[Arpa]

A standing ovation for this latest of standup comics :clap:

Which is it? Failed historians turning to comedy, or failed comedians to "history"?

Remember that comedian turned "historian" halacoglu that even his own kind found him ridiculously hilarious and "defrocked" him?

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I should have written the following

Chief Turkish Historian Under Fire for Racism

Blogian on 24 Aug 2007

 

You thought he was a denier, but did you know he was also an urologist?

 

Turkey’s official chief historian Yusuf Halacoglu, who has made news at Blogian for his role in covering up the discovery and the destruction of a possible Armenian Genocide mass grave, is under fire now for what many in Turkey see as racist comments against both Armenians and Kurds.

 

Halacoglu, the head of the governmental Turkish Historical Society, has now ridiculed himself by proclaiming at a conference that there are no Kurds in Turkey: “Kurds are converted Turkmen and Kurdish Alevis are converted Armenians.” (Halacoglu is quoted as saying in the Turkish Daily News)

 

Apparently, after going through the genitalia of PKK (a militant Kurdish group deemed as terrorist by the West) members, Halacoglu has once again discovered there has been no Armenian Genocide. He is quoted in the Turkish press as saying, “For example when some PKK members are arrested it becomes apparent that they are not circumcised.”

 

If a Kurd is not circumcised then he must be Armenian, thinks Halacoglu. If there are so many covert Armenians in Turkey then there has been no Armenian Genocide, thinks - or should I say hallucinates - Halacoglu. I wonder what Halacoglu could find out by looking at mine.

 

It is difficult to say what is the most shocking aspect about Halacoglu’s new hallucination - denying the Kurdish identity, propagating conspiracy theories about Armenians, denying the Armenian Genocide or trying to even more dehumanize Kurds by calling them Armenians?

 

Kenan Ercel, a native of Turkey now at the Economics Department at the University of Massachusetts, says that the motivations behind Halacoglu’s statements are ignored.

 

There is much talk and outcry around Halacoglu’s latest statements but

what gets surprisingly little attention in the midst of all the hubbub is

the motivation behind those statements, which is not so much to deny Kurds

a separate ethnic identity (he already backpedaled on that) but to

downplay the scale of the 1915 deportations. As Halacoglu stated in a TV interview yesterday (on SkyTurk), if it can be shown that hundreds of thousands of Armenians who were believed to have disappeared from Anatolia were actually still there under the guise of a different ethnicity (Alevi Kurds), then it can be proven that the deportations were no where near as widespread as they are claimed to be. In the said interview he argued that if this hidden population was accounted for, the number of Armenians living in Turkey as of 1920 would turn out to be 1.3 million! Hence, not only was there no genocide, but even the “tehcir” was very limited in scope.

 

As to how such a sizeable Christian population managed to meld in

(almost en masse) with a Muslim sect without being noticed by the CUP authorities and their collaborators, I’m sure Halacoglu has other fairy tales to tell

Edited January 12, 2009 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Comedy in motion?

Recently I received a PM from one our concerned Forumers asking me why all of a sudden I had turned anti-S**tic. It may have been prompted by my post #72 above. However, they failed to show us when it was that I said anything or ridiculed those close to a billion people who profess to be semitic, among which the Arabic speakers, the Arameans, Babylonians, Sumerians and the Assyrians.

How naive can we be to fall in that trap of "anti-sh*t*sm"?

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Here is another comedian turned politician or visa versa?

ANTI-SEMITES EXPLOIT ISRAEL'S ACTIONS

 

BIA

Jan 8 2009

Turkey

 

Rights activists Bilgen and Haligua condemn racist comments that

gain ground in protests against Israel's offensive in Gaza. "The

government and the media incite such reactions. We should demand peace,

not revenge."

 

Criticizing anti-semite comments and reactions in protests against

Israel's offensive in Gaza, former head of the conservative rights

organization MAZLUMDER Ayhan Bilgen and rights activist -and a Turkish

Jew- Avi Haligua underlined the error of identifying a state's policies

with its people.

 

Bilgen, advised protestors to question the actions of governments

holding good relations with Israel, including the Justice and

Development Part (AKP) government. Haligua, a radio producer, draws

attention to the media's role in the circulation of such racist

reactions.

 

"All Jews are trying to clear of others but we'll fight" said a young

commentator during a mainstream TV program, aired last night.

 

On another account, members of the Osmangazi Cultural Foundation in

EskiÅ~_ehir held banners which read "Armenians and Jews not allowed

through this door" during a staged protest.

 

Several members of the Human Rights Association (Ä°HD) are applying

to court on the basis of "inciting hatred", regarding those comments.

 

"It's a grose error to bill the faults of the Israeli state to Jews

living in other parts of the world" said Bilgen. "We must clearly

distinguish between demands of peace in the Middle East and demands

that would instigate further ethnic and religious fights. One should

not forget that the most powerful reaction to Israel's policies comes

from within the country, from Israeli peace activists"

 

Noting he had covered most of the demonstrations in Istanbul, "I'm

not comfortable faced with demands to account for Israel's actions"

said Haligua.

 

While this is the case, he also reacts to PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

saying "we've welcomed Jews as our guest here 600 years ago".

 

"I'm not a Israeli citizen says Haligua. "Utilization of the notion

of 'guest' after 600 years shows how deep anti-semitism goes. AKP

exploits the situation for the upcoming elections just as the Israeli

government does."

 

He notes that the media lays ground to racist comments through

sentimental approaches. "We should demand peace instead of

revenge."

Edited January 9, 2009 by Arpa