Shahan Araradian Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) He can go live in an island or even better in Artsakh. He can grow his own organic apricots there. And he wont need a refrigerator. Everything will be fresh. What a life... Big 100" satellite dish for CNN Sorry but this only shows your ignorance as to the technological singularity and the possibilities... Asymmetry of information is why 1% of the population controls 95% of the wealth and decision-making in the world today. Edited August 24, 2007 by Shahan Araradian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 A person living 40 years from now will ask "Why did man ever have to work for another man?" and "Why did man ever have to work (period)." I'm strictly anti-aging from now on, I MUST live to see that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Shahan you need to lighten up a bit buddy. I was joking when I said that Jose will deliver your fruits., but you weren't when you said that all cab drivers are from Armenia. So don't be an R to your own kind, and have some sense of humor. Â Sip, what do you think about the cars driving themselvs: gps navigation, dynamic radar cruise control, self parking, rain-sensing, light-sensing. The technology pretty much is there, its just needs upgrading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 USA ftw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) P.S. whatever you describe here isn't specific to the U.S. I could be living in Montreal or France or Lebanon and have access to the SAME Internet and the same Amazon.com to order stuff from and delivered to my door. What U.S. society lacks is the most important thing of all: humanity. Dear Shahan, I hate to be such a pain the proverbial Vor*k, please pardon me for being so bold. You have been crticizing the US in particular and the wst in general every chance you get. Then go ballistic criticizing and trashing the eastern Armenian orthography and dialect. You have been incessantly spewing nothing but poison, be it towards the east or the west. Excuse me, pardon me, my sincere apologies. Did someone send you a silver framed, gold plated invitation to come to America? As to me, I came to America on my volition, no invitation, no coercion. I came to America knowing that it is the only country where I can display both the Red White and Blue along with the tricolor. Have you ever displayed the Syrian flag along with the Armenan? Do you know what the Syrian flag looks like? How many and what colors, how many stars? I don't. I never did. Or, are you the "second coming of Christ" incarnate, bent on correcting every wrong, dotting every I and crossing every T? I'm sure you know that the US is the oldest democratic republic in all of history, even older than the French (revolution) Republic, and that it has been the same republic even if France is in her 6th or 7th one . We won't even talk about the Russian empire and the SU. Edited August 24, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Sip, what do you think about the cars driving themselvs: gps navigation, dynamic radar cruise control, self parking, rain-sensing, light-sensing. The technology pretty much is there, its just needs upgrading Some very simple things are in place. But self-driving cars are still very far from reality. However, I do think they can happen in 40 years (unlike the human-like robot) IF an adequate infrastructure is built to support them. I don't think an autonomous self-driving car is that practical or realistic. But cars driving themselves on the freeways during rush hour or finding parking in a parking lot that have been instrumented with special infrastructures to support such systems are not that far fetched. GPS is great but the accuracy is not good enough for car navigation. However, GPS augmented with land-based locationing systems as well as other collision detection schemes (like microwave radar or sonar) can work. One of the problems with GPS is that is that it is unreliable when there are obstacles between the receiver and the satellites (like clouds, trees, hills, large buildings, tunnels, etc).  Self parking -- well nuff said. It's already here  Dynamic or adaptive cruise control -- also here in a limited sense but all they do is blindly adjust the speed to the car in front ... if that car crashes into something at very high speed, you'll be going after it with no time to react It is based on the assumption that the car in front is driving intelligently and safely. I actually worked on some user interface pieces on one of the very first systems back in 1998/99 time frame (at Delphi) ... it is amazing how many problems had to be solved to make it work. Just the slightest hill and you would get radar feedback from the road or the reflectors ... then big rig trucks would register as two different cars sometimes with the front and the back acting separately. Also, it was unclear which one was better -- radar or laser so the solution was to use a combination at the time. ... of course the prototype car had about 10 huge PC systems loaded in the back but I think they managed to reduce that down to a small module  http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge/images/Team_Pics/TeamCaltech_3.jpg But let's wait and see what happens to the outcome of the Darpa grand challenge this year which is now the "urban" challenge (the vehicle must navigate completely on its own in a city environment). Last few years the race was in the desert where initially, most teams wouldn't even make it out of the parking lot .. but finally some teams got some very good results and finished the long desert course (I think the Stanford team won it last year). However, this Urban one is going to be far more complicated, no doubt. Edited August 24, 2007 by Sip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Shushhhhh Amy jan. You might offend him. The men around here are very sensitive regarding their ages. Hatkapes Edo qerrin.    ba yeghav Em jan? hartsreles u chem patasxanel janik? orinak Yervant@ 50 e, Arpan...........hech hech Gamavor@ toshaki a gnum shutov age and numbers are 2 totely deferent things I would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 But self-driving cars are still very far from reality. Watch this: http://www.singinst.org/media/thesingularity Then this (by Sebastian Thrun, lead designer of Stanley, Stanford's robot than one the DARPA Grand Challenge): http://www.singinst.org/media/towardhumanlevelintelligence Self-driving cars are already here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 (edited) You have been crticizing the US in particular and the wst in general every chance you get. I haven't criticized "the west" in general; I've spoken well of Canada, Quebec and France. Did someone send you a silver framed, gold plated invitation to come to America? Actually, yes... As to me, I came to America on my volition, no invitation, no coercion. I came to America knowing that it is the only country where I can display both the Red White and Blue along with the tricolor. HAHA!! Have you been brainwashed or what? I can do the same in Lebanon, Syria, Canada, France, and anywhere else accept Turkey and Azerbaijan. But is your ability to "wave a flag" your criteria for determining where to live? How about things that really matter? Like lifestyle, society, culture, and affordability? I'm sure you know that the US is the oldest democratic republic in all of history, even older than the French (revolution) Republic, and that it has been the same republic even if France is in her 6th or 7th one . We won't even talk about the Russian empire and the SU. Single-celled organisms are the oldest living types organisms; with your logic, then, I should also seek to be an amoeba. Edited August 25, 2007 by Shahan Araradian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Shahan you need to lighten up a bit buddy. I was joking when I said that Jose will deliver your fruits., but you weren't when you said that all cab drivers are from Armenia. \\ I didn't say ALL. I said many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 (edited) Then go ballistic criticizing and trashing the eastern Armenian orthography and dialect. Arpa, don't you remember that it was you trashing the western Armenian dialect and phonology? (I was merely successfully defending it; and it showed that your knowledge in Armenian phonology was lacking; particularly that Eastern Armenian phonology does not equal Classical Armenian phonology. There is no such thing as "eastern Armenian orthography. There is Soviet Armenian orthography and no serious academic would defend it. It was made to make it easier to teach the Armenian alphabet and spelling to the illiterate farmers living in Soviet Yerevan in the 20s. With so much education and so much technology, it is a shame to keep that illiterate farmer's orthography around... not to be speaking badly of farmers personally, but their education.) Edited August 25, 2007 by Shahan Araradian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I didn't say ALL. I said many. How many is many? I know many Armenians but non of them are taxi drivers.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 would it be wrong to say you're easily impressed, Sip? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I wouldn't say impressed but sometimes the smaller things in life do make me very happy. Some people are almost never happy ... me on the other hand, sometimes for example even when I eye-ball and drill a hole in a piece of metal and it lines up exactly to where I wanted it to end up on the jeep, I get very happy.  This is the example from today ... I had been planning to add a second battery to the jeep for some time now and I finally got around to doing it: Started with cutting a long threaded bolt into 4 pieces, drilling some holes in the corners of the stock location, and bolting them in: http://www.seapahn.us/images/jeep/bat_tray1.jpg Then strapped in the backup battery and added a few more nuts and washers to support the new tray that I got: http://www.seapahn.us/images/jeep/bat_tray3.jpg and then a few more quick holes in the new tray and it went on: http://www.seapahn.us/images/jeep/bat_tray4.jpg and of course finally the main battery went in place: http://www.seapahn.us/images/jeep/bat_tray6.jpg Now after all this is said and done, maybe I didn't accomplish anything amazing but the feeling of satisfaction and "happyness" is well worth the effort. That's what I mean by the "smaller things" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I'm strictly anti-aging from now on, I MUST live to see that!    Stormig throw away the mechanical one and get a live one if you must live to see it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I'm strictly anti-aging from now on, I MUST live to see that! If you live long enough, you might live forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Or, are you the "second coming of Christ" incarnate, bent on correcting every wrong, dotting every I and crossing every T? No, but he's the second coming of Christ. I'm only the messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I just can't believe how easy things are sometimes. I have been doing a few odds and ends projects and I am just amazed at how easy everything has been. ANYTHING I think of, I can usually very easily find it either at local stores, or through the internet which ends up at my door in only a couple of days. I completely agree with you Sip. I know that you're all talking about how easy it is to get technology in this thread, but I'd like to add that it's very easy to get anything in the U.S., like music scores! Talking to my mom I always appreciate that we don't live through the hardships they've seen in the Soviet Union. The U.S. is the land of plenty, and (to Shahan) no, most countries in the world don't have the same luxurious living standard as the U.S. After living in the U.S. for so many years, we begin to take things for granted, like the ability to buy anything we want, like walking into a store and purchasing a beautiful dress to go out in the evening, like running out of toothpaste and thinking you'll just get it after work. Life is easy in the U.S. and it was easy even 50 years ago even without cell phones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 What U.S. society lacks is the most important thing of all: humanity. How do you justify this claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 ba yeghav Em jan? hartsreles u chem patasxanel janik? orinak Yervant@ 50 e, Arpan...........hech hech Gamavor@ toshaki a gnum shutov age and numbers are 2 totely deferent things I would say  Chem hartsrel...uxaki...haskatsel em vor amen harts chen talis!  Yes, age is but a number. And what's 50 lets say compared with 95? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 No jeep is still in WI ... must have been some other really cool dude's jeep   Bro i had to TIP the Security to guard my car i parked next to that jeep - no other place to park & told him the best weapon agents you is to show you a 4x4 magazine or call a local lunchtruck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Sip jan is that a dray cell battery ? / you have it said ways bro ?? don't you have acid in it ?? Â http://www.seapahn.us/images/jeep/bat_tray3.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 bro you need a toyota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Yah those Odysseys are dry cell and completely sealed. You can mount them in any way and even subject to a lot of vibration and very extreme weather (this one has metal jacket around it). The yellow optima is gel cell so that one can also be mounted any direction. I don't like the optimas as much as the odysseys but the odyssey is more expensive and for some reason I had got the yellow top for the jeep before (it's great for winching). Â The PC1200 one you see in there is a bit weak. It was having trouble starting my blazer in sub zero winter mornings. So I swapped it for a PC1500 and kept this one to use as backup in the jeep. Man that PC1500 is THE best battery I have ever had. It puts out more than 800 CCA (825A at 0F) and will do about 1500A in 80F!!!! If you are going to replace your battery at any time, I definitely recommend checking this thing out. I've had a small PC925 as backup in the blazer for about 6 years now and it is running strong. I actually use it a lot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 A person living 40 years from now will ask "Why did man ever have to work for another man?" and "Why did man ever have to work (period)." ...In the age of universally intelligent robots, free communication networks, free energy, and molecular manufacturing (with blueprints of ANY gadget traded freely over the Internet in open source models)... Man in 40 years will be liberated from other men; but that will not come without its dangers. As the corrupt human social hierarchy exploits others, this bad karma will come back to bite it with the availability of these powerful technologies in the hands of individuals and small groups. Oh noes! Shahan Araradian strikes again! http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/z/zorro1.jpg No, but on a more serious note, we were having so much fun and being friendly and stuff in the "Need help" thread where gdavidyan was seeking advice and now I am afraid I am going to have to be your foe again.  There is absolutely nothing to indicate to any rational thinking fellow that in 40 years man will be independent thanks to robot helpers like something out of Isaac Asimov's I, Robot.  Maybe, if we are lucky, people will figure out who Shahan Araradian is and his message and elect him to the throne of the new World Government and you can slowly begin to implement your new new new 5-year-plan. Goal: in 5 years, man will have robot helpers (a.k.a. a euphemism for Mexicans) working and tilling the fields for free, so we can achieve our goal of removing the shackles of evil capitalist American oppression.  As Apocalypse from the X-Men said: "Then shall I begin anew, recreating the universe in my own image. A perfect universe, where I shall rule, unchallenged. What was once, now will never be. What will be, I shall determine."  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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