Oorenk Is Finally Live!

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Oorenk ... you just have to do what you have to do ... people often "irents esh e ke kshen" no matter what you say

[Shahan Araradian]

As Shahan has said over and over, the US is made of "the ruling class" (very small percentage) and the "brainwashed victims".

Yes. That is the reality.

 

Since he is not part of the ruling class, we can only conclude he considers himself one of the victims.

There are three types of people in society:

1) Power elite: capitalists and middle managers

2) the masses: do the drudge work and are managed by the middle managers on behalf of the capitalists

3) free men: not part of the above system at all

 

Although he claims he has "woken up", that doesn't change what he is (has to be based on his own dichotomy that he keeps repeating over and over and over and over).

I did mention that it's possible to jump from #2 to #1, especially in the U.S. the land of opportunity with laws made especially for opportunists to exploit the masses and the nice thing is the whole system spreads propaganda claiming otherwise to the masses to keep them dumbed down. It's a beautiful system for an opportunist.

 

This system (extreme capitalism) is a requirement, though, for the development of the technologies that will liberate humanity from all work. I myself am involved in the creation of the most significant (in my opinion) of these technologies (universal AI), so it's not like I'm a Luddite or anti-capitalist. Once developed, these technologies will enable all sorts of alternative models of government, especially socialistic ones.

Edited August 27, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[AVO]

1) Power elite: capitalists and middle managers

 

Look at this way. At least his not saying that the elite are a race of reptilian humanoids known as the Babylonian Brotherhood. see David Icke

[Mindtrap]

I speak from experience in living many years in both the S.F. and L.A. Armenian communities when I say...

 

The reason you found San Francisco Armenians to be more pleasant and living a higher quality of life is that you interviewed mostly Diasporan Armenians (all of the people in the pictures in the article are diasporan Armenians -- except maybe the 17 year old guy who isn't familiar to me); San Francisco's ratio of Armenians from Armenia to the total Armenian population there is not as high as it is in Los Angeles (which turns out to be beneficial to SF Armenians -- and I would say to San Franciscanites in general).

 

Hence, in Los Angeles, Diasporan Armenians are "over shadowed" and "over looked" by the mostly noisy, rude, and involved-in-illegal-activity Armenians from Armenia, who "stand out" more in the crowd since they call attention to themselves. In turn, these Hayasdantsis have had a negative effect upon the local Diasporan Armenians of Los Angeles, since the name of the Armenians in general has been tarnished not only among Americans, but among Diasporan Armenians. And for the first time, something unheard of is happening: Diasporan Armenians are feeling ashamed of being Armenian due to their association with Armenians from Armenian... And low morale is what destroys organizations; in this case, diasporan Armenian organizations in L.A. (The effects are less more so in the Valley, but particularly highlighted in Glendale and Hollywood and L.A.)

 

In comparison, the Armenians of San Francisco are mostly Diasporan Armenians: either immigrants from around the 70s from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Iran, or third generation American-Armenians whose grandparents came during the genocide.

 

You'll still find those same types of problematic Armenian youth from Armenia in San Francisco; but given their low numbers and sparse locations where they live, you don't notice them as you do in Glendale or Hollywood where there is a high concentration of them. (They also stay away from Armenian organizations -- as they do in L.A. -- and they have their own Etchmiadznagan church that most of the diasporan Armenians don't attend.) So the community there is divided; and the demographics of division are quite obvious.

 

The Los Angeles Armenian community hasn't been the same ever since the 1990s when that very enormous wave of immigrants from Armenia, whose "goghakan"/"koghakan" (mafia) culture and corresponding antisocial activities has tarnished the name of Armenians both externally and internally (possibly irreversibly).

 

Given that the wave of immigration from Armenia has calmed, I'm hopeful that the S.F., Toronto, Montreal, and Lebanese diasporan Armenian communities won't suffer from this contamination...

 

 

 

As I read through your post I couldn’t more that we do have some negative influences in the Armenian community. However this is not only in Los Angeles but on an international level, but there is no way everyone can meet you expectations of what is civil and right. I found it hurtful and demeaning when you pointed out the troubles and problems are caused by “hyastancis”. This further divides our people and that mindset can only lead to more problems and further violence. We have enough intercultural violence in our communities already, please fuel the fire, instead be a constructive and beneficial.

 

I’m not sure if you have a negative vibe toward everyone from Armenian through experiences or if you were raised to feel that way but I hope things do change for you. I hope you re evaluate your surrounding and your experiences and maybe something good will come of it. I wish you the best.