Lev7 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 BRUSSELS, MARCH 28, NOYAN TAPAN - ARMENIANS TODAY. The Ministry of Education of Belgian state of Valon published a book, in which the founder of modern Republic of Turkey, Mustafa Kemal - Ataturk, is numbered among the most important and the most prominent homosexuals in the history. With this step, in fact, the Belgian state joined the step of Greek young people who placed similar information about Ataturk on the www.youtube.com well-known web-site in early March. According to the Zaman Turkish newspaper, the book under the title "Fight Against Homophobia," which consists of 144 pages, was given out to pupils of pre-school and secondary colleges of the state of Valon. On book's page 105 Ataturk is numbered among the most famous homosexuals in the world history. According to the book, Alexander of Macedon, Leonardo da Vinci, Goethe, as well as the Pope John Paul III were also homosexuals. Marriage of homosexuals is permitted in Belgium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 According to the book, Alexander of Macedon, Leonardo da Vinci, Goethe, as well as the Pope John Paul III were also homosexuals. Adam and Ryan Beebe or another PanArmenian glitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Extremes go hand in hand...I one of his recorded statements the HOMO Kemal Father of all Turks, declares that Turkey is cleansed from Greeks and Armenians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? one has nothing to do with the other. Were Stalin and Mao homos? They killed millions. Stick to the pertinent issues about the Genocide Extremes go hand in hand...I one of his recorded statements the HOMO Kemal Father of all Turks, declares that Turkey is cleansed from Greeks and Armenians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Stalin was half Jew, Mao was Chineese! If those are not extremes than what IS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) This is the first time that I have heard that Stalin was half Jewish. I guess you think that the half-Armenian toy industriallist Wong in Moscow is extreme also. ...and what are we, the chosen people? Interesting that some of us mock others in that regard others when that is clearly the view that so many Armenians have of themselves. Stalin was half Jew, Mao was Chinese! If those are not extremes than what IS! Edited March 30, 2007 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 My former mother-in-law would state that there is no crime among us, no sexual deviance, no murder, nothing but purity. She was probably smoking the same hashish as her close buddy the POTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Stalin was half Jew, Mao was Chineese! If those are not extremes than what IS! In fact Mao was full blooded Armenian. His real name was Mamikon Zedonts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 With this step, in fact, the Belgian state joined the step of Greek young people who placed similar information about Ataturk on the www.youtube.com well-known web-site in early March. Comparing a publication of the Belgian Ministry of Education to a tasteless, homemade video YouTubed by some Greek kid is unendingly ludicrous. And dear phantom, I think it is key that ALL ethnicities -not only Armenian- abandon the position of selected superiority. You do know who the term chosen people really applies to, right? I'm not a (THEM)basher by any means, but if hypocrisy and double standards are detrimental to any one nation, they are probably harmful to all of humanity. P.S. "Zedont" was a cute one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 What I don't get is the preoccupation with Ataturk. It runs almost parallel with that of Turks themselves. Vinci, I think, should have been more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 What I don't get is the preoccupation with Ataturk. It runs almost parallel with that of Turks themselves. Vinci, I think, should have been more interesting. That is our plight. We are failing to realize that not all goes back to the AG and the Turkish Republic/public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsakh Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Comparing a publication of the Belgian Ministry of Education to a tasteless, homemade video YouTubed by some Greek kid is unendingly ludicrous. Ludicrous enough to warrant the banning of youtube in Turkey? Why don't you tell that to the Turkish government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsakh Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) As with everything in their history, the Turks tried to keep the fact that their "father" was HOMOSEXUAL hidden. First, they banned youtube. LETS SEE WHAT THEY DO NEXT!!! It will be interesting to see how Turkish nationalists will react to news that the subject of their worship, the great ataturk, took it up the a s s s. Edited March 30, 2007 by Artsakh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Artsakh, You got it "ASS BACKWARDS." It was part of the Ottoman culture which was inherited from the Greeks. Older men would do this to young boys. It was meant to bring about "bonding." I must say it sure was bonding wasn't it? As with everything in their history, the Turks tried to keep the fact that their "father" was HOMOSEXUAL hidden. First, they banned youtube. LETS SEE WHAT THEY DO NEXT!!! It will be interesting to see how Turkish nationalists will react to news that the subject of their worship, the great ataturk, took it up the a s s s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Stalin was half Jew, Mao was Chineese! If those are not extremes than what IS! am i halucinating or does every bad person have a jewish backround Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Yeah, there are Jews lurking under your bed at night and in the dark corners of your gardens. Cut the s**t. am i halucinating or does every bad person have a jewish backround Edited March 31, 2007 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Artsakh, You got it "ASS BACKWARDS." It was part of the Ottoman culture which was inherited from the Greeks. Older men would do this to young boys. It was meant to bring about "bonding." I must say it sure was bonding wasn't it? By the way, this couldn't possibly have been inherited from Greeks since Greeks didn't do this after the adoption of Christianity. Byzantium existed for hundreds of years before any turk showed up. By the way, I'm pretty sure that in the European Union old men sodomizing young boys is considered criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Yeah, there are Jews lurking under your bed at night and in the dark corners of your gardens. Cut the s**t. wow, your slow... I was being sarcastic...and hey, at least I'm not claiming to be related to everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Hey Irlandahay, Who is claiming to be related to everyone? My brother married a Jewish woman, converted to Judaism and through her family's contacts became very wealthy. I married an Armenian woman whose family was more well-connected than my brother's inlaws and the marriage destroyed me both economically and emotionally. Hell, I have had more help in my life from Jews than my fellow Armenians, who have done everything to bring me to my knees. I have a number of first cousins and some second cousins. I know who they are and where they live. We are remnants of a much larger family who were annihilated in the Armenian provinces of the Ottoman Empire. The men of my family from Bolise were also executed. Hey Irlandahay, the prominent Bolsahyes all knew each other well, and if they were of a minority Armenian Christian sect they stuck together like glue. You can not believe what the Loosavorchagan leaders would say about these Catholics and Pochcagans, so they rallied together. As for my life, wait until my autobiography comes out. I will obviously write it under a pseudonym and change the names of the persons mentioned. Yet astute people will be able to ascertain whom I am speaking of. I don't want to destroy lives. Reagan's daughter wrote a similar book. I didn't seek out these people, it just happened. Often I did not realize who my close associates were until well after the time I met them. They would conceal who their family were in a sign of humility, I suppose. Anglo families from old money don't throw their identity in your face like the nouveau riche. . wow, your slow... I was being sarcastic...and hey, at least I'm not claiming to be related to everyone Edited March 31, 2007 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Hey Irlandahay, Who is claiming to be related to everyone? My brother married a Jewish woman, converted to Judaism and through her family's contacts became very wealthy. I married an Armenian woman whose family was more well-connected than my brother's inlaws and the marriage destroyed me both economically and emotionally. Hell, I have had more help in my life from Jews than my fellow Armenians, who have done everything to bring me to my knees. I have a number of first cousins and some second cousins. I know who they are and where they live. We are remnants of a much larger family who were annihilated in the Armenian provinces of the Ottoman Empire. The men of my family from Bolise were also executed. Hey Irlandahay, the prominent Bolsahyes all knew each other well, and if they were of a minority Armenian Christian sect they stuck together like glue. You can not believe what the Loosavorchagan leaders would say about these Catholics and Pochcagans, so they rallied together. As for my life, wait until my autobiography comes out. I will obviously write it under a pseudonym and change the names of the persons mentioned. Yet astute people will be able to ascertain whom I am speaking of. I don't want to destroy lives. Reagan's daughter wrote a similar book. I didn't seek out these people, it just happened. Often I did not realize who my close associates were until well after the time I met them. They would conceal who their family were in a sign of humility, I suppose. Anglo families from old money don't throw their identity in your face like the nouveau riche. well clearly you are! and there we go again...your life story... I swear, you get all heated up because i said you claim to be related to everyone. maybe you are maybe you arnt...why do you care what I think? you go on and tell me your life story...its not surprising that you were baptised the forum idiot...well until deniz (remember him?) back when i was new on the forum. you told me your life story so I'l tell you mine: I'm gonna be 16 in exactly a week (april8th) I'm a funny kid but i cant stand ignorance, i hate people who boast about themselves and who claim to know everything. I also hate people who pull "information" out of their ass. you can be related to whoever you want mate, its not like im going to believe you when in every single one of your posts, u mention someone...and that someone happens to be related to you in some way. your writing an autobiography? hm...dont forget to mention your wonderful sexcapades with indiana jones (who happens to be your cousin twice removed on your jamaican mothers side) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Yeh, Yeah, Yeah Every one of my posts? Get Real! Most of my posts have been articles pulled from the Internet. Well, when you live in Los Angeles in a neighborhood among the movie stars, you come into their circle. They are your neighbors, the people next to you at the supermarket parking lot, the person before you at the barber/hairstylist. You bump into them everywhere. When you eat at a restaurant, they are sitting at the next table. When you get politically involved, you meet them at social events. I was 16 when I got politcally involved with a US Senatorial campaign. You wouldn't believe the people that you would meet like this. As for being the Hye Forum idiot, I consider this a "Badge of Honour." Years of mingling with the Anglos and Heryas, plus years of intense study and I no longer see the world through an Armenian prism alone. I can relish the positives of being Armenian without succumbing to the taboos. well clearly you are! and there we go again...your life story... I swear, you get all heated up because i said you claim to be related to everyone. maybe you are maybe you arnt...why do you care what I think? you go on and tell me your life story...its not surprising that you were baptised the forum idiot...well until deniz (remember him?) back when i was new on the forum. you told me your life story so I'l tell you mine: I'm gonna be 16 in exactly a week (april8th) I'm a funny kid but i cant stand ignorance, i hate people who boast about themselves and who claim to know everything. I also hate people who pull "information" out of their ass. you can be related to whoever you want mate, its not like im going to believe you when in every single one of your posts, u mention someone...and that someone happens to be related to you in some way. your writing an autobiography? hm...dont forget to mention your wonderful sexcapades with indiana jones (who happens to be your cousin twice removed on your jamaican mothers side) Edited March 31, 2007 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Artsakh, You got it "ASS BACKWARDS." It was part of the Ottoman culture which was inherited from the Greeks. Older men would do this to young boys. It was meant to bring about "bonding." I must say it sure was bonding wasn't it? YOU !!! DAMN PERVERTED SON OF A BIIIITCH ! If I had any administrative privilege I would have banned you long time ago. If for no other reason than for disgustingly “indecent exposure” in view of our minors and ladies. Why are you still here spreading your kaka/feces of Sodomistic Ottoman heritage?, Have you bothered to see that many of our correspondents are not even old enough to have a drivers’ license? Do you realize that many of them are potentially younger than your bi-sexually non-issuant grandchildren? Sino/Mongolo/Judeo/Bagratuni/KAKA on an unsuspecting younger generation? We know you can read Chinese,, Mongolian and Hebrew, but can you read English? Can you read the following lines? “GET THE *** OFF THIS SITE”, go find yourself a site for Chinkos, Mongols and Hryas. Will you F***ly, kindly take a break, go learn some Armenian to know that “bulashik” what your “ottoman mother” taught you and that “:khoja” is not an honorific Armenian title. You say you are Armenian. Do you know who and what Varuzhan,, Charents , Sevak and Komitas are? Can you read their writings? See if you can learn how to…. Until then SAHUT THE F*** UP! Edited March 31, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Hey Arpa, Why don't you chastize Artsakh, who raised this issue here in relation to Ataturk? They were the one who took this to the next step, describing what they claim was done to Ataturk. So it is OK for Artsakh to mention this stuff but wrong for me to set the record straight? It is OK to discuss this in relation to Ataturk if you can find ways to degrade him, right? Heck, the Genocide was a reality. What is to be gained by dragging Atuturk through the mud and describing what Artsakh described? YOU !!! SON OF A BIIIITCH ! If I had any administrative privilege I would have banned you long time ago. If for no other reason than for disgustingly “indecent exposure” in view of our minors and ladies. Why are you still here spreading your kaka/feces of Sodomistic Ottoman heritage?, Have you bothered to see that many of our correspondents are not even old enough to have a drivers’ license? Do you realize that many of them are potentially younger than your bi-sexually non-issuant grandchildren? Sino/Mongolo/Judeo/Bagratuni/KAKA on an unsuspecting younger generation? We know you can read Chinese,, Mongolian and Hebrew, but can you read English? Can you read the following lines? “GET THE *** OFF THIS SITE”, go find yourself a site for Chinkos, Mongols and Hryas. Will you F***ly, kindly take a break, go learn some Armenian to know that “bulashik” what your “ottoman mother” taught you and that “:khoja” is not an honorific Armenian title. You say you are Armenian. Do you know who and what Varuzhan,, Charents , Sevak and Komitas are? Can you read their writings? See if you can learn how to…. Until then SAHUT THE F*** UP! Edited March 31, 2007 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Heck, the pharmacies in the Albany region must be selling a lot of anti-acid these days. I think I will ask them for a cut of their profits. Edited March 31, 2007 by phantom22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom22 Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 It was an Italian homosexual doctor, converted to Islam, that took the most pleasure in torturing Armenian priests during the Genocide. I wonder what it was about Armenian theological beliefs that drove this converted Italian to such evil deeds? YOU !!! DAMN PERVERTED SON OF A BIIIITCH ! If I had any administrative privilege I would have banned you long time ago. If for no other reason than for disgustingly “indecent exposure” in view of our minors and ladies. Why are you still here spreading your kaka/feces of Sodomistic Ottoman heritage?, Have you bothered to see that many of our correspondents are not even old enough to have a drivers’ license? Do you realize that many of them are potentially younger than your bi-sexually non-issuant grandchildren? Sino/Mongolo/Judeo/Bagratuni/KAKA on an unsuspecting younger generation? We know you can read Chinese,, Mongolian and Hebrew, but can you read English? Can you read the following lines? “GET THE *** OFF THIS SITE”, go find yourself a site for Chinkos, Mongols and Hryas. Will you F***ly, kindly take a break, go learn some Armenian to know that “bulashik” what your “ottoman mother” taught you and that “:khoja” is not an honorific Armenian title. You say you are Armenian. Do you know who and what Varuzhan,, Charents , Sevak and Komitas are? Can you read their writings? See if you can learn how to…. Until then SAHUT THE F*** UP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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