yerevanforeigner6 Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Parev all! Can some people write to me some basics in Western-Armenian. Is there any similarities with Eastern Armenian? How do you say a simple present tense sentence in Western Armenian? For instance I go shopping every day or I sometimes read books Thank you for helping PS. I only know the word " thank you" in Eastern-Armenian which is shnorakalutsyun but I dont know the Western Armenian word for it. Please feel free to write long replies about your language structure and its basics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Well first introduce yourself please . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Yes sir, firstly welcome. If you please explain us, why a hungarian living in Yerevan wants to learn the difference between western an eastern two dialect of Armenian. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iminhokis Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 you live in armenia, dont know westarmenian but say "parev"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) you live in armenia, dont know westarmenian but say "parev"? Yes, indeed HF6. Who taught you to say Parev? Did you learn it at the Ermeni Fakultesi of Istanbul? In Yerevan it is “Barev” as it is written with the second letter of Ayb Ben Gim. Like A B C. However. Don’t let anyone scare you. Who told you that there are two different Armenian languages? Once one knows either Istanbulian or Yerevanian variant one knows both, albeit with slight and insignificant grammatical idiosyncrasies.. It is no different than Buda-Hungarian and Peshta-Hungarian.??? Edited March 27, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Calm down Arpa. He's Hungarian. Now bust out your Magyar skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) Dear friend, Let us talk in public. I told you where i live. It is not impotante the name of mine city, street ext. Also it is not importante amore mio, if i have relatives all over the world. It is right that is kan nicht esspress imin self in anglese gute, therefore escuse moi. I beg you to not ask me hard questions. Let us in language sectir. And if you have any question about any particular subject lets go. Edited March 27, 2007 by Johannes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 բան մը չը հասկըցա Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yerevanforeigner6 Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear friend, Let us talk in public. I told you where i live. It is not impotante the name of mine city, street ext. Also it is not importante amore mio, if i have relatives all over the world. It is right that is kan nicht esspress imin self in anglese gute, therefore escuse moi. I beg you to not ask me hard questions. Let us in language sectir. And if you have any question about any particular subject lets go. Dear Johannes, Ok I'm trying not to ask you hard questions. Of course I do not expect anyone to write street etc. I just only ask the city where they live but never complete addresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Էլիա Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) Parev all! Can some people write to me some basics in Western-Armenian. Is there any similarities with Eastern Armenian? How do you say a simple present tense sentence in Western Armenian? For instance I go shopping every day or I sometimes read books Thank you for helping PS. I only know the word " thank you" in Eastern-Armenian which is shnorakalutsyun but I dont know the Western Armenian word for it. Please feel free to write long replies about your language structure and its basics I'm Western Armenian! Well, can you read Armenian? Well, if you can't, I'll also put the English transliteration of what I put. I go shopping every day. = Ես գնելու կ'երթամ ամէն օր: = Yes kuhneloo gertam amen or. I sometimes read books. = Ես երբեմն գիրքեր կը կարդամ: = Yes yerpemuhn keerker guh gartam. (Sorry, but I don't know how to show you the vowel's sounds) Basically, the simple present tense in Western Armenian is "կը եմ", "կը իմ", and "կը ամ". (But, there are contradictions to this, like the "I go shopping every day." example that I did at the top, and by the way, that's only from the 1st point of view and singular.) The English transliterations of these are "guh yem", "guh eem", and "guh am". The different suffixes just depend on the verb, because verbs are divided into three categories: those that end with "yem", those that end with "eem", and thos that end with "am". The 2nd and 3rd points of view and whether its singular or plural change the present tense, so there is a variety of simple present tenses. As for "Thank You", we usually say... Շնորհակալ եմ = Shunorhagal yem ... which really means "I am thankful", but we don't really use "Shnoragalutyun", as far as I know. I don't think Western Armenian and Eastern Armenian are that different, but the sounds are the most distinct difference. The grammar and spelling isn't that different, though. Some spelling differences are that in Western Armenian, the suffix, "ուած", is written as "ված" in Eastern Armenian, and also, the suffix, "թիւն" is written as "թյուն" in Eastern Armenian. There are some grammar differences that I'm not quite sure of at the moment... Do you have any more questions? Edited April 28, 2007 by Էլիա Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Yes kuneloo gertam amen or. Something about that sentence just isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) I THINK the U is pronounced Ը in her sentence, and the K, Գ. So its not Qoonelo.. With all due respect to Western Armenians, we have discussed here the efficiency of the extreme Western pronunciation. Edited April 28, 2007 by Zartonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Էլիա Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) I THINK the U is pronounced Ը in her sentence, and the K, Գ. So its not Qoonelo.. With all due respect to Western Armenians, we have discussed here the efficiency of the extreme Western pronunciation. Ya, sorry, I didn't mean it like that... I'll edit it right now. And I'm male... my name is Elia as in Yeghia from the Bible... Edited April 28, 2007 by Էլիա Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Something about that sentence just isn't right. I know because she is a female, she has to be the receiver ...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Էլիա Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 I know because she is a female, she has to be the receiver ...lol Excuse me, but I'm not female (as I have already stated), I am male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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