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  1. iminhokis

    Germanahay

    Shame on most of you, what a poor "Armenity"! To the webmaster / team: I am really disapointed. How can you allow such "RACISTIC" TOPICS? What when a Turk insults Armenians? Would he be banned? But when an Armenian insults a whole "group" of Armenians, nobody cares?!? And on top, how can you allow any member, whether Turk, Armenian or any other nationality, to publicly INSULT one of the highest members of the Armenian Church, Patriarch Mutafyan? No matter, whether I like him or not, people should be adult enough to express their free opinion in a respectful manner. I am member of this forum since many years and reading regularly through your topics. I am Armenian and I have my roots in Turkey, as well as in Europe. I am attached to Lebanon and also Armenia, I have my own opinion too and do not like every Armenian opinion either, but above all these, the first thing my Armenian family from TURKEY has teach me was "HARKANK". Some of the members must have missed that part in their education and it is sad that Hyeforum seems to allow this kind of behavor in this forum.
  2. iminhokis

    Twof'r

    does anybody remember the danzin dzarin dagge dasse danzi ... ???
  3. some desperate Armos are looking for a reasonable place to stay in NY beginning of august for 1 week. do you have some tips?
  4. you live in armenia, dont know westarmenian but say "parev"?
  5. Hayerene Djisht Khosink, every day on Lebanese-Armenian "Vanatzayn" (Voice of Van). You can listen online: http://www.voiceofvan.net/html/hayerene_djisht_khosink.html
  6. iminhokis

    La Pucelle

    15levels, my friend, i did not realise that you were drawing as well! its great....somehow reminds me of your father's drawings (the ones i saw on the web). what a wonderful gift you have in your family.
  7. i read his book "La Dette de sang : Un Arménien traque les responsables du génocide 1921-1922 (Poche)" in french but the original exists in english as well.
  8. iminhokis

    Ee Zen Hayer

    I zen hayer i sour yev i hratsan Tatchgahayastanitz, kotchoum e mi dzayn Lernits lerr tndoum e e ahegh hraman, Trrek, Hayer, trrek, tebi Hayastan Tebi, Tebi, Tebi Hayastan Trrek, Hayer, trrek, tebi Hayastan Prkoutian avetik arrats i beran Khoumb khoumb Hayer tepi Tatchgahayastan Dimoum en tsentsoutiamb ibrev harsanik Oukthants sourp ayrounov perkel Hayrenik Prkel, prkel, prkel Hayrenik Oukhtants sourp ayrounov perkel Hayrenik Tatchgahayastane votki e kangenoum Arryoutsabots verej, verej e gorroum Aryounov nerkevatz yen bolor dashtere Aryounov nerkevatz yen bolor getere Bolor, bolor, bolor dashtere Aryounov nerkevatz en bolor getere Tshnamin zarnevats pakhoust e dimoum Antiv avar ou gandz ir hetin toghnoum Haghtoutyoun, haghtoutyoun gotchenk miadzayn Tshnamin partevatz e ketse Hayastan getse, getse getse Hayastan Tshnamin partevats e ketse Hayastan
  9. TURKISH VIEW: Time Magazine Accepts Being Part of Armenian Propaganda Campaign: http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=42397
  10. turkish reactions in english http://www.armenian.ch/forum/phpBB2/viewto...p?p=10648#10648
  11. Turkish Press about the issue: http://www.cnnturk.com/DUNYA/haber_detay.a...;haberID=295787
  12. As for the 2nd question, the lawsuite did not take place, as Time Executives and the claiming organisatons reached to an agreement.
  13. NO!!! Its all written in the press release (see first post where you find the direct link to the original PDF)
  14. thats what i meant, i hope there is no misunderstanding. however i must say that there is lot of "marketing" in europe since the assasination and some are likely to "understand" what they want to hear (don't forget that turks are their neighbours). ("oh look turks are not that bad, they are victime of nationalists in their own country." blabla, that's what we hear in television every 2nd day (especially in german). But that's not the topic here....
  15. too good if so ! they will "rectifiy" their image back to "reality" in European Televisions, after they tried to tell that "we are all armenians" after Hrant Dink's murder.
  16. YOU can send a thank you letter to Time: letters@time.com
  17. Original publication in Englisch, French, German, Armenian and French: www.armenian.ch News / Swiss Armenia Association Press Release Time: Genocide politics and DVD The Feb. 12, 2007 issue of the European edition of TIME magazine (circulation 550,000) -- available in newsstands throughout Europe on Feb. 2nd -- carries a full-page factual statement on the Armenian Genocide, along with a complimentary DVD, in English and French, which contains a compelling 52-minute documentary on the Armenian Genocide by French director Laurence Jourdan. The DVD also includes a 46-minute interview with Dr. Yves Ternon, a leading expert on the Armenian Genocide.
  18. I agre with you, but this has nothing to do with the question of weather Armenians living in Turkey "should" leave or not !!! this " moral obligation" and responsibility lies with all Armenians around the world, no matter where their roots are. There are as many "Hayastan-Armenians" who travel to Turkey for vacation, as there are "Turkey-Armenians" living outside who fly back for vacation. (I can't tell my anger when I saw all these publicity for Holidays in Turkey when I was in Armenia last summer!). 2 Yerevanzi's living here in Switzerland who will both get married this year, plan their honey moon in Turkey! There was no Bolsahay here who was not -badly- surprised. But this again is another topic! I saw that there were diffrent replies to my post, I will try to give my feedback on the diffrent comments: I am traveling to Armenia regularly and spend a lot of time there. We even seriously thought about living there. But it was more the idea of a "dream come true" which I wanted to keep on. The truth is, that I will do my best to support Armenia and love it as "our country; but it is definitely not were I belong to, and I will definitely not move to Armenia for good- and this has nothing to do with the economic situation. Would you discuss this with me if there was no Genocide? I am not going to live in Istanbul either, but this is simply because I cannot stand the political situation. However, and I can only repeat it, I highly appreciate and offer my deepest respect to all those who stay there were they have been for more than 3000 years. There is NO reason, they SHOULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE their land, weather it is called Armenia or not. Hrant Dink has seen Armenia and he stand for what he thought was right. (I don't agree on all of his opinionans but this is not the question). If he was "forced" to leave his roots and go to Armenia, he would have felt deported. That's finaly what he said, because he simply wanted to stay where his roots lied and where he belonged to! It took me some years and lot of traveling, lot of experience in political activates to understand this, as I used to talk like you before. The very first experiences I had in Armenia were very surprising to me, as at that time, I was defending the same "opinion" that you seem to have. I then met for the first time with one of my grand fathers cousins' son (already before the genocide this part of the family always used to live in the region of Yerevan while my grand fathers roots were in Istanbul), He asked me about all the members of his family still living there. I told him that "fortunately" most of them have left the country and to my surprise he was very disappointed! He said "that's very sad. I can understand all those who leave for economical reasons, but I am an old man, I know that there is nothing worse than to leave the land of your roots." I was still very naive and convinced that one day I would move to Armenia too, and said "but don't you think maybe one day lot of them will come to live in Armenia, as they used to dream about?" The old man responded: "I love this land, its where MY roots lie. I would be more than proud if Armenians like you come to become "Armenian Citizens" rather than to be "an Armenian of the Diaspora" which is meant to die one day. I wish you could see the Ararat in real instead of having it in a frame hanging in your living room. But when you become old like me you will know that nothing can replace the land of your roots. By leaving Turkey, Armenians leave theses roots behind them for ever and one day they will be forgotten. when this happens, an important part of the Armenian Identity will die too." This is just a part of what I remember out of his words, but I know that at that time, I did not want to REALLY understand his words nor did I want to accept or understand the surprising "positive" comments I have heard from diffrent people in Armenia. I thought this was to be excused by economical advantages and the idea of "a better life- outside armenian, NO MATTER where.) After my experiences (especially in Lebanon) and other communities, I realized that they (the Armenians from Turkey as well as those living in today's Armenia and who never left Armenia) are all much more peaceful in their soul than the rest of the Diaspora. They struggle for their future, and for "justice" and the memory of our past (each community in his own way), but they are free of complexes, predictions and judgments which fill the hearts of most of the Diaspora. They did not have these complexes of "prooving their armenian identity" as we can observe all over the armenian communities world wide. It is true, that in Turkey there are more and more "assimilations", which is VERY sad. But that's just as everywhere in the Diaspora a piece of reality, which not only Armenians are asked to face. But I have not seen any other community (IN EUROPE) which still LIVES the armenian culture, at least as much as they do in ISTANBUL! Facing the reality of what remains of armenian communites in Europe, I envy those armenians, who manage to live in Turkey but who under the given circumstances still manage to SIMPLY LIVE their culture! They live on the land of their roots, no matter what politics wanted or wants them to do. And there is no Turk and no Armenian who should try to take them this right. I agree that we (the diaspora) has the responsibility to stand for the armenian case in a rather aggresive way, and i understand that this is causing even more "trouble" for the armenians living in Turkey. I know we cannot "help" them, its something we have to go through. and therefore, I admire them even more! Cause they are alone, but they resist and they rarely complain, they try to live their lives, on the land of their roots...and trying to keep their armenian idenity as much as possible. It has nothing to do with weather we have to support Armenia or not. And by the way, although I still have family in Turkey, I am not a "real" bolsahay. And although my own family over there, does not like my political activities for the Armenian case, they accept and respect my choice, just as I accept and respect theirs. They know that we all have our own "responsibilities". Anyways, I don't think that this discussion will change anything, as at the time, there was no one who could change my own opinion either It took me years of reflection and experience to be able to "accept and respect" this myself. (btw, you don't have to accept it to respect it. that's the minimum we owe each other among Armenians.)
  19. Anahid, why should Armenians leave? I cannot imagine living in Turkey nor spend more than 3 days there (to see my faimily), BUT I admire those who do- and who at the same time, remain armenian just as they are. Those who maintain our churches, our schools...... Hrant Dink was one of them who decided to stay HOME. He was not an immigrated armenian, as we all are somewhere in Lebanon, the States, Europe or anywhere else than Turkey and Armenia. This is Hrant Dink's last article, published on the day of his assasination in AGOS.
  20. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L19382006.htm http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/19...dink/index.html http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/_newsimages/2743377.jpg
  21. do you wish the partitions?
  22. i met them in armenia after their concert in sayat nova. they were great, altough the sayat nova is not the right place for such a concert (with all these ppl having dinner and making noice), thats probably why they did not perform slow songs.
  23. if you read french, this website may be a good help: http://www.haydjampa.org/Esprit_Hay/hayots...hayotslezou.htm there is also an english lesson on armeniapedia http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Armenian_Lessons good luck
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