DominO123 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Their fees are simply killing the project. They eat the little profit I make from all the fees, the worst of, their killing final value fees. I also have enough of xenphobic US residents who only ship to the US, and tired of all the BS they come up to justify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armjan Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 I can understand your frustration. speaking of ebay, i've recently purchased 3 items thru pay pal but never received the items, so I wonder, besides leaving bad feedback, how do we go about getting a refund of some sort. any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Their fees are simply killing the project. They eat the little profit I make from all the fees, the worst of, their killing final value fees. I also have enough of xenphobic US residents who only ship to the US, and tired of all the BS they come up to justify it. You just realized? The worst thing about it is that no company comes close to eBay, so they can charge whatever they want.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 In Holland, there are two e-bay like places where they don't charge anything. Perhaps someone should start a new e-bay, sponsored by big companies, but where the sellers don't need to pay any fees to sell their products. I also hate it when Americans refuse to sell things outside of the US. I've managed to convince some sellers otherwise, though. Maybe it has to do with how rare the product is (and possibly how good your feedback score is). I also always get in touch with the sellers, just to make sure there is someone at the other end of the line and ensure that the product is available (especially with those power sellers). As for the small sellers, it's always best to get in touch with them as well. Good for bargaining shipping prices, and again making sure there is someone at the other end of the line. As a final note, I always consider the question: how much am I willing to lose, in case I get cheated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted December 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 I can understand your frustration. speaking of ebay, i've recently purchased 3 items thru pay pal but never received the items, so I wonder, besides leaving bad feedback, how do we go about getting a refund of some sort. any suggestions? Paypal is very secure, you can request a refund, paypal request a tracking number for the products shipped, if they do not obtain it, they take the amount from the sellers Paypal acount and transfer it to you + a penality, I think something like 10$. The seller can still save this 10$, by giving you a full refund. Frauds hate Paypal, since it is more difficult to fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted December 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 You just realized? The worst thing about it is that no company comes close to eBay, so they can charge whatever they want.. If you sell something less than 20$, they charge you for the final value, of 5.25%, not to add the fees to list it. If you take in account the time and ressources you put in the listing and the product, hardly you make any money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 I am someone who has never sold anything on eBay, but is it not just a buck or two to sell things? what are the fees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Try craigslist if you don´t want to use Ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) I also hate it when Americans refuse to sell things outside of the US. And how about Europeans (as in mainland Europe) refusing to accept Paypal. I'd say maybe only 1% do. That's why almost nobody from America or Britain buys from ebay sellers in mainland Europe (and why many collectable items such as books, antiques, etc, sell for about 1/2 of US prices). Look on ebay.fr or ebay.de and see all the sellers who refuse to ship outside of France or Germany (some of the French ones even refuse to ship outside of Paris - as if the world ended beyond that city's limits!) Edited December 24, 2006 by neko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted December 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 I am someone who has never sold anything on eBay, but is it not just a buck or two to sell things? what are the fees? The one or two buck you are talking about is to list things. Once you sold, you will pay a % of the price of the product to eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted December 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 And how about Europeans (as in mainland Europe) refusing to accept Paypal. I'd say maybe only 1% do. That's why almost nobody from America or Britain buys from ebay sellers in mainland Europe (and why many collectable items such as books, antiques, etc, sell for about 1/2 of US prices). Look on ebay.fr or ebay.de and see all the sellers who refuse to ship outside of France or Germany (some of the French ones even refuse to ship outside of Paris - as if the world ended beyond that city's limits!) Yeh, EUROPE! Not France selling only to France, it is harder for an European and cost more to sell outside Europe than Americans selling worldwide. And we are not talking about being it listed to .fr, but .com, the main eBay page. When you have idiots with user names like Bushrules, or thepatriot only selling to Americans,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 If you sell something less than 20$, they charge you for the final value, of 5.25%, not to add the fees to list it. If you take in account the time and ressources you put in the listing and the product, hardly you make any money. I know man, it's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazarian Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 (edited) I hate eBay, too. It's very difficult to make money on it unless you are a volume seller and have a store. The listing fees, final value fees, Paypal credit card payment fees simply kill any margin you had hoped for. I am amazed that there are still people who make money there. If I make a dollar or two on an auction, I consider myself lucky. The Amazon fees are much higher if you sell a book. It's about 20%! But they do not charge listing fees and it stays on the site for 60 days or so. If you don't sell it, you don't lose anything. Edited January 5, 2007 by Nazarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 I hate eBay, too. It's very difficult to make money on it unless you are a volume seller and have a store. The listing fees, final value fees, Paypal credit card payment fees simply kill any margin you had hoped for. I am amazed that there are still people who make money there. If I make a dollar or two on an auction, I consider myself lucky. The Amazon fees are much higher if you sell a book. It's about 20%! But they do not charge listing fees and it stays on the site for 60 days or so. If you don't sell it, you don't lose anything. I suspect stolen products to be sold there. You sell a product and you know you offer it for a bargin compared to the retail price and then to find out that someone sell it much less than what you could get wholesale. How is this possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Hah! eBay just announced that they will be raising their fees again: Let me say that, while we believe these changes are modest, we consider any changes that may impact our sellers with great care. These adjustments are the result of careful analysis and we believe they're the right thing to do to keep the marketplace strong for our eBay.com and eBay Motors sellers. Core Listing Fees: Auction-Style & Fixed Price* Fee Type Item Price New Fee Current Fee Insertion Fee Starting Price: $1.00 - $9.99 $0.40 $0.35 Final Value Fee Selling Price: $25.01 - $1000.00 3.25% 3% *Does not impact Store Inventory Listings. eBay Motors Vehicles Fees The fees listed above will also apply to Parts & Accessories. Fee Type New Fee Current Fee Motorcycles & Powersports Transaction Services Fee $40 $30 Cars & Trucks, Other Vehicles & Trailers Transaction Services Fee $50 $40 Motors Reserve Fee 0.1% of reserve price ($5 minimum, $10 maximum) $5 To learn more about each of these changes, I invite you to read our Frequently Asked Questions and our eBay Fees Help page. (To learn more about Canada fee adjustments, please check the Announcement Board for eBay.ca.) A Successful Online Holiday Shopping Season As I've said many times, one of our most important jobs here at eBay is ensuring that we're driving buyers to the site. This online holiday shopping season was a big success, and I want to acknowledge the outstanding efforts this last quarter from our marketing team led by Gary Briggs. Our integrated "IT" campaign performed well for the second year in a row, reaching our targeted shoppers an average of 13 times per person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Their fees are simply killing the project. They eat the little profit I make from all the fees, the worst of, their killing final value fees. I also have enough of xenphobic US residents who only ship to the US, and tired of all the BS they come up to justify it. Have Enough Of Ebay i tell that to my self every day Ebay is good / just cover your ass, don't get excited, if the buyer Sims like to good to be true don;t even accept pay pal - ask him/her to send you a money order or bank transfer.... as for the fees Fedulik jan pay attention on how you list your items, don;t be adding 6 to 10 pics and pay for each one - get some web space and host your own pictures - design your own action listing page - instead of using ebay's premed pages - make some nice templates of your own. if you wish to make money on ebay - you can also list items for others that can;t or don;t know haw to list / add a auction on ebay / you can charge up to 1/3 of the total to after goods on ebay it's free money Fedul jan if you need help let me know - you know haw to get hold of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 I suspect stolen products to be sold there. You sell a product and you know you offer it for a bargin compared to the retail price and then to find out that someone sell it much less than what you could get wholesale. How is this possible? anything is possible Fedul jan but on think you need to take under consideration is - if you can offer 10 books a eek - some other Sellers can offer 1000 a week - so he /she gets a bigger discount one more suggestion stop by at your local thrift stores / second hand stores and see if any of them are not on ebay - see if they are willing to make an extra $$$ by offering goods on ebay or any other web based auction / or open a account for them under their name and use their credit card - then if and when the items sold charge him %10 ro %15 of the total Fedul jan also talk to your wholesale CO. see if you can get the goods for less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) I suspect stolen products to be sold there. You sell a product and you know you offer it for a bargin compared to the retail price and then to find out that someone sell it much less than what you could get wholesale. How is this possible? I don't think they're stolen. All of those products have something wrong with them. They're factory mistakes (or whatever it's called). They can't be sold in regular shops, so they are going to be thrown away or recycled. E-bay power sellers somehow get their hands on these products (possibly for a friendly price, if not for free) and then sell them on for a supposedly cheap price on e-bay. Edited January 8, 2007 by nairi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I don't think they're stolen. All of those products have something wrong with them. They're factory mistakes (or whatever it's called). They can't be sold in regular shops, so they are going to be thrown away or recycled. E-bay power sellers somehow get their hands on these products (possibly for a friendly price, if not for free) and then sell them on for a supposedly cheap price on e-bay. Nairi, I am talking about products which are still compagny sealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Nairi, I am talking about products which are still compagny sealed. Can you give an example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Can you give an example? I prefer not to say what I sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I thought you were talking about sellers like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Lord-of-the-Rings-...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I don't think they're stolen. All of those products have something wrong with them. They're factory mistakes (or whatever it's called). They can't be sold in regular shops, so they are going to be thrown away or recycled. E-bay power sellers somehow get their hands on these products (possibly for a friendly price, if not for free) and then sell them on for a supposedly cheap price on e-bay. I assume you mean refurbished goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I suspect stolen products to be sold there. You sell a product and you know you offer it for a bargin compared to the retail price and then to find out that someone sell it much less than what you could get wholesale. How is this possible? Police: eBay seller arrested after NY man finds his stolen GPS device for sale on eBay 08/01/2007 7:28:00 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MINEOLA, N.Y. (AP) - A New York-based eBay seller was charged with possessing stolen property Monday after a would-be customer found his stolen GPS navigation device up for sale on the online auction site. Danial Rangkar, 25, pleaded not guilty at his arraignment Monday, a day after he was arrested. Operating under the name, "nydannysjewelry," he is accused of trying to sell dozens of other electronic items, including laptop computers and iPods. He was ordered held on US$25,000 bail and told to surrender his passport, the Nassau County district attorney's office said. Rangkar's lawyer did not return a telephone call seeking comment. The would-be customer, who was not identified, said he checked the serial number when he found the device about 10 days after it was stolen and matched it to the one he had owned, police said Monday. Police searched Rangkar's home and business, a second hand store in Queens, and found several dozen items they suspect had been stolen out of automobiles in the New York area. Catherine England, a eBay spokeswoman, said those suspected of illegal activity have their account cancelled immediately. His site was still offering items Monday, and England said it was possible police had yet to notify her company about the arrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 it happens all day long have you ever seen a I sold it or other Ebay stores reporting to local Police about each and every piece of merchandise offered by them on Ebay ?? no it never happens / the person in that article is lucky to find it on ebay Don;t every take Bank-to-bank transfers, Cashiers Checks, personal checks, money orders, certified checks. to be safe use your Paypal ,Visa, MasterCard American Express, Discover to pay - atlist if somthing gos wrong - you have yoru credit cards Co. behind you - credit card will charge back and teh seller has to provide all teh neccesiry information and profes Ebay is one of the best if not the best auction house - but many thugs do take advantage of it / it takes time to learn to cover yourself - but there is something new every day someone somewhere is spending time to find a way / loophole to take advantage of your and your $$$ sold a watch on ebay 3 years a go for $1200 Confirmed & verifide member who had 50 + feedback - so we send it to N-California - 15~20 days after we get a charge back from paypal - costumer was calming that she has never got the watch and it was not her who has placed the order - - for 3 days i was like - OK i have lost the watch and the $$$$ - then i remember that she was asking me prior to end of the auction for extra links to make the watch bigger, so I found the old MSg and replayed to her that i did found the links & if she wont them to Email me the ser# and the model number - also it would be good if she can take a picture of the links - since i did not have the original auction pictures, to make sure i have the correct links, sure enough after 45 minutes she got back w/me, Picture + Ser# + the model # and asking to ship to same address as the one we shipped the watch - after that all i had to do was contact Paypal forward the MSG from Ebay - and in less then 2 hours the money was back in my paypal but we are not lucky all the time i did lost $$$ on ebay - most of the time it was coverd by shipping Co or ebay/paypal/s insurance but still ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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