Armenak Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 British Deputies Launch Campaign Against French Armenian Bill By Selcuk Gultasli, Brussels Tuesday, November 21, 2006 zaman.com In a written declaration, three British deputies in the European Parliament have harshly criticized France’s draft Armenian genocide bill, which was adopted in the parliament on Oct. 12. For the declaration, a joint initiative by British Labor Party deputies Michael Cashman and Richard Howitt, and British Liberal Andrew Duff, to become a resolution, it has to be signed by 367 deputies. Cashman asserted that the French draft bill was aimed at undermining Turkey’s EU bid and Howitt noted that the French parliament’s decision was hypocritical and provocative. The written declaration states its regret for the French Assembly’s decision and noted that this contradicted the principle of freedom of speech, a universal right and one born in French enlightenment. The declaration said that the genocide bill would impede the efforts of those who have been working on the amelioration of Turkey’s freedom of speech record. Furthermore, it would not make any contributions to relations between Turkey and Armenia, and called on the French Senate to reject the draft. The declaration also called on the EP President to transmit this document to the French Assembly, French government, European Council and European Commission. Duff: The Ottoman State was not Strong Enough to Commit Genocide Speaking to Zaman, British Liberal EP member Andrew Duff said that most EP members opposed the French Parliament’s decision, but it was not clear how much support their declaration would garner. Asked whether he was hesitant to be labeled by the Armenian lobby and their supporters a “denier,” Duff recalled that they had already declared him one. He said Turks should be able to face with their history: “However, I do not think this would mean the acceptance of the allegations. At its dawn, the Ottoman State was not strong enough to commit genocide. There were massacres; however, genocide is a strong expression to describe what had happened.” Duff also said that it was not fair to force Turkey to accept the existence of an Armenian genocide while most European countries had a dark history of their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Did we not agree to post these kinds of items under one subject topic, be it it Ruffled Feathers, or whatever the mods may choose? Can we please stop to create new topics and place all our eggs in one, two, three, a million baskets, so to speak, lest our message be diluted and lose its punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 That this Duff is cretinoid is out of question. Duff: The Ottoman State was not Strong Enough to Commit Genocide Was Rwanda strong nation when it commited genocide? Duff also said that it was not fair to force Turkey to accept the existence of an Armenian genocide while most European countries had a dark history of their own. Lets be a little more careful here. Acctually, very few nations in Europe have "dark history of their own", which one way or another has been addressed. If Brits are afraid that their barbarian past will also be exposed that is a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Ooooooooooooo, think again. Belgium has a terrible past in the Congo, one that has not actually been put to rest. So, yes, that's irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Sorry Stormig, I was not aware that Belgians expelled Congolians from their native lands. I was not also aware that Belgians raped and killed in masse the Congolians and destroyed all their churches and cultural heritage. I was not aware that Belgians renamed the famed Congolian primate to Primitus Europeanus Africanus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 (edited) Lets be a little more careful here. Acctually, very few nations in Europe have "dark history of their own", which one way or another has been addressed. If Brits are afraid that their barbarian past will also be exposed that is a different story. They were the ones who put their big nose into a great many countries trying to have control including in Afica of Course, other than the Belgians. Mostly it is a good point Gams. Edited November 22, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Not to drift too much from the subject matter; but yes the late king Leopold II of Belgian accumulated a vast personal fortune from ivory and rubber through Congolese slave labor; 10 million people are estimated to have died from forced labor, starvation, and outright extermination during Leopold's colonial rule. His brutal exploitation of the Congo eventually became an international cause celebre, prompting Belgium to take over administration of the Congo, which remained a colony until agitation for independence forced Brussels to grant freedom on June 30, 1960. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 (edited) Sorry Stormig, I was not aware that Belgians expelled Congolians from their native lands. I was not also aware that Belgians raped and killed in masse the Congolians and destroyed all their churches and cultural heritage. Which Eurofag country categorically denies their ugly dark past? Which Europuff state still occupies 90%+ of any of the colonized countries? Which Europédé government accuses the colonized peoples of betraying their masters and deserving to be punished by "relocation"? Which Euroqueer empire punishes any of their citizens for talking about their dark past? ..... I was not aware that Belgians renamed the famed Congolian primate to Primitus Europeanus Africanus. The Turks would rename it to Mongolian Primate (I don't think the primate would be flattered though). Edited November 24, 2006 by Hellektor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 (edited) Furthermore, it would not make any contributions to relations between Turkey and Armenia, and called on the French Senate to reject the draft. Someone tell this Turkish British faggot that we tkatz oonenk on having relations with this species of bloodsucking, parasitical disease that has been gnawing at our existence for the last thousand years or so. Someone tell this Turkish British faggot that these savage, Human Culture-deficiency Viruses have never tolerated and will never tolerate the existence of an independent Armenia, however small; and if the piece of Turksucking shit is really concerned about these relations to be established, he should tell his Turkish to lift the illegal embargo (which I don't think anyone of us would like to see happen ) He said Turks should be able to face with (great English! H.) their history: “However, I do not think this would mean the acceptance of the allegations. At its dawn (dawn? Is this a mistake of the illiterate Turks or the Duff faggot? H.), the Ottoman State was not strong enough to commit genocide. There were massacres; however, genocide is a strong expression to describe what had happened.” Someone tell this Turkish British faggot that if wiping the entire Turkish infested Armenia of its indigenous Christian population doesn't deserve to be labeled genocide then other genocides couldn't possibly be labeled a stronger expression than mere collateral damage. Edit, Lets let our readers use there imagination. Editing was done for unsuitable inappropriate language for this Forum Edited November 24, 2006 by Edward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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