MosJan Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 NEW STATUES IN THE CAPITAL * Very soon new statues will be erected in the capital. In particular, in Ajapnyak community Gevorg Chaush's statue will be erected, a monument to Mher Mkrtchyan will be erected near the theater after Sundukyan, and another to Garegin Nzhdeh – near cinema «Hayreniq». The Yerevan municipality announced a competition in order to make the statues. The competition took place, but according to chief architect of Yerevan Samvel Danielyan, the results were not really pleasing. None of the participants of the competition won, and some of them were asked to process their plans further and represent them to the Council of Art and urban development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 MONUMENTS TO FAMOUS PEOPLE TO BE BUILT * Yerevan municipality plans to erect monuments to famous people, Samvel Danielyan, chief architecture told a briefing today. In his words, a monument will be erected to famous Armenian freedom-fighter in early 20th century Gevorg Chaush in Achapniak community – on the crossroads of Mazmanyan and Bashinjaghyan streets. Another monument to famous Armenian actor Mher Mkrtchyan will be erected in G. Sundukyan part. A tender for building the monument was announced last year but no group took the first place. Projects that won the second and third places should be further ellaborated. Still another monument is planned near cinema house Hairenik to Garegin Njdeh and one more will be built in the yards of a local church dedicated to the victims of May 3 airliner crash. /Panorama.am/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) MONUMENTS TO FAMOUS PEOPLE TO BE BUILT Yerevan municipality plans to erect monuments to famous people, Samvel Danielyan, chief architecture told a briefing today. In his words, a monument will be erected to famous Armenian freedom-fighter in early 20th century Gevorg Chaush in Achapniak community – on the crossroads of Mazmanyan and Bashinjaghyan streets. I just returned from the shadow of Gevorg Qsanapet, our national hero, born in Van (1870-1907),at times companion of Andranik. Below his statue in Artashat, near Khor Virap. During one of my visits I asked our guide why it was that Gevorg was looking away from Yerevan, they told me that he was looking south towards Nakhjavan. http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/711f1/ac4/6/ BTW. I don’t like his “turdish” nickname. Chavush means sergeant. Does anyone know the official Armenian word for that military rank? One source says “qsanapet” just as “tasnapet” is corporal. Edit; Gevorg's surname is Ghazarian. Can someone please post that picture from the site above? Edited June 14, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I wonder what happened to the great Armenian sculptors... the old generation... they all have gone... now we errecting ugly pieces like this, whats wrong with the people... amot. Seems like the great days when quality was the priority have long gone. Its just sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I just returned from the shadow of Gevorg Qsanapet, our national hero, born in Van (1870-1907),at times companion of Andranik. Below his statue in Artashat, near Khor Virap. During one of my visits I asked our guide why it was that Gevorg was looking away from Yerevan, they told me that he was looking south towards Nakhjavan. http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/711f1/ac4/6/ BTW. I don’t like his “turdish” nickname. Chavush means sergeant. Does anyone know the official Armenian word for that military rank? One source says “qsanapet” just as “tasnapet” is corporal. Edit; Gevorg's surname is Ghazarian. Can someone please post that picture from the site above? http://armenians.com/Gallery/khorvirap/MVC-638F.JPG at first it was looking to Mt Ararat - then a BS from the turks - it was turned a way from Ararat and not only from Ararat also KhorVirap - since one of the persons who was demanding / offring for it to be turned away was a church offishel it's not looking away frame yerevan / Yerevan is in N/E his looking away from Khor Virap http://armenians.com/Gallery/khorvirap/MVC-636F.JPG PS. it's not the first time a statue has been repositioned - remember the statues in Sardarapat http://www.tatev.com/Tours/Tourpics/Sardarapat.jpg i cant remember haw many we have - supposedly 4 or 6 of them - at first was positioned to look to trkye - then soviates made them reposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) Apres du Movses! Al chem yergelou "Amot Qez Mossi". Check your mail box. I am sending you a ton of harisa and two tons of tsiran. As to the artsivs at Sardarapat, it is five. No special significance except that only five would fit the space. Hey Sip! Shut up! The following is from when we first met and were having a contest as to who is the silliest of them all. Do you give up? None of that Golden Arch of McDonald and the Taco Bells. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=4617&hl=taco : Originally posted by MosJan/Sip: ... when you enter Sardarapat park, front of you stands up the Arches witch has bells in it. ... Wow!!! A McDonalds with a Taco Bell inside it? Now I know I have to visit Armenia one day  Edited June 14, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I meant no offence... but come on, this is one disproportional statue, there is nothing heroic about it, whoever the autor is, he should be cutting stones for buildings, not making statues (IMHO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I meant no offence... but come on, this is one disproportional statue, there is nothing heroic about it, whoever the autor is, he should be cutting stones for buildings, not making statues (IMHO). Yes Ruben, by all means. I am no artist, I may be a good “qartash”(stonecutter). Yet, you may remember the controversy about the impressionistic statue of Arno Babajanian. We saw it and I had to remind my companions of the controversy. My co-travelers could very well understand the impressionistic artistry rather than the photographic imagery. http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?titl...an_CIMG1353.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) Arpa jan, one could say its a matter of taste. People who didnt like that statue 10 years ago, still dont like it. OK, so its there, people get used to it with time. Its still no excuse for putting up ugly pieces which have no aestitic value and polute the sight. The statue of Arno is not that bad. Its a masterpiece compared to the statue on the photos. At least its expressive and not a 3dimensional migit with frozen body and a huge head. I grew up in the building on Kievian 24, where all appartments were of painters and sculptors. I remember it well, the studios, the stone work and the talent. I guess when the old masters are gone and there is noone to teach the new generation... so we end up with shitty works on a public display. Better no art at all than this... auch. Edited June 14, 2006 by 15levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 BTW. I don’t like his “turdish” nickname. Chavush means sergeant. Does anyone know the official Armenian word for that military rank? One source says “qsanapet” just as “tasnapet” is corporal. Hi Arpa, chavush comes right after onbasi (tasnabet) one stripe, so qsanapet two stripes should be the right title for chavush but sergeant is three stripes I'm not sure if chavush is really sergeant? BTW how was your Armenia trip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Hi Yervant, I have always known that “kakush” meant sergeant, my miniscule Turkish dictionary says so as well., I don’t know the official definitions of military ranks except that tasnapet is corporal, haryurapet is captain and hazarapet is general. Harut, what is “pyurapet”? Hi Arpa, chavush comes right after onbasi (tasnabet) one stripe, so qsanapet two stripes should be the right title for chavush but sergeant is three stripes I'm not sure if chavush is really sergeant? BTW how was your Armenia trip? Thank you for asking. It was exhilarating and breathtaking, in both senses of the word. Yes, I even had tsiran even if it was a few weeks short of full maturation, and the natives were a little pessimistic about its harvest as opposed to 2005 bumper crop. Yerevan (Hayastan) was untypically hot this June, the natives told us so as well, yet, typical to similar desert climates, while one can fry eggs in the sun the shades were deliciously cool and breezy. When I say breathtaking, literally, when we were, among many other climbs climbing up to the ruins of Erebuni my hars who is a trained surgeon stayed with me and asked me if I was OK as I was running out of breath , not so much physically but emotionally. The scene from Arin Berd is BREATHTAKING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Arpa, didnt cross my mind you are actually in Armenia now.. enjoy your trip and dont forget to eat a lot of fruit its delicious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) Arpa, didnt cross my mind you are actually in Armenia now.. enjoy your trip and dont forget to eat a lot of fruit its delicious! Thank you Ruben, Actually I am back in New York. I did enjoy all the fruits, even if tsiran was a few weeks short of maturation although I did enjoy some precociously delicious ones. As rule I don’t eat breakfast, but how can one resist a daily nakhajash of lolik, varunk, touzi yev @hnkouyzi anush, not to mention tsirani hyuth yev Haykakan panir. Speaking of @nkouyzeni, on our route to Noravank we did make our business to stop at my favorite @nkouzeni at Sevak’s tun thangaran. Sorry to say that it was closed, pending feverish reconstruction and embelishment. Much beautification. On our way back I asked the driver to show us the site of Paruyr’s fatal accident. And as I had always suspected, of all the hairpin turns and precariously primitive highways, the accident site is the most open and least precarious. According to the eyewitness accounts of Sevak’s two surviving children a car had cut their path and repositioned itself repeatedly until the fatal crash. Speaking of which. F**k the genocide archives as the Turks want us to open. Those sonofabitches KGB commies! Paruyr was getting too close for their comfort. What happened to Abovian, Bakunts and…. Sevak??? Edited June 14, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 "Those sonofabitches KGB commies! Paruyr was getting too close for their comfort. What happened to Abovian, Bakunts and…. Sevak???" same that has happened to Charents, Kamsar .. and many many others what hurts me more that it was in Armenia and most of the tortures was don by "armenians"* Kamsar was Exiled from yerevan - then offered to be excused - IF he would spy on Avetik Isahakyan - each one turned against each other * i should not use Armenian not even in the " " - the correct word will be HayaXos - person that can speak Armenian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Took any photos, Arpa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Took any photos, Arpa? No. This time I promised myself to not have any machines in my hand, to totally enjoy the scenery, and I did. My son and son in law took many digital photos. I may post them as they trnasmit them to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazarian Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 That's one ugly statue. And why does it portray Gevorg Chavush as gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lev7 Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Arpa jan, one could say its a matter of taste. People who didnt like that statue 10 years ago, still dont like it. OK, so its there, people get used to it with time. Its still no excuse for putting up ugly pieces which have no aestitic value and polute the sight. The statue of Arno is not that bad. Its a masterpiece compared to the statue on the photos. At least its expressive and not a 3dimensional migit with frozen body and a huge head. I grew up in the building on Kievian 24, where all appartments were of painters and sculptors. I remember it well, the studios, the stone work and the talent. I guess when the old masters are gone and there is noone to teach the new generation... so we end up with shitty works on a public display. Better no art at all than this... auch. I lived on kievian 5 which school did you go to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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