Lev7 Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 What do you think will happen to Armenia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I really don't think USA will attack Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lev7 Posted April 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I really don't think USA will attack Iran. how do you think the Iran-U.S. conflict will be resolved then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 That's a good question but I don't think of it as a US-Iran conflict. If the current Iran develops nuclear weapons, EVERYONE is screwed so it's a world-Iran conflict. This is really something that I think US is going to wait for world support before taking any actions (not by choice but because the US is already severely strained in terms of economic and military resources and this is just in a chaotic place like Iraq) Iran is not going to be an easy "march in the park" (park = bagdad?) Once the entire world starts putting pressure on Iran, Iran WILL back down. Those in charge are already on fairly shakey ground internally. The people will not tolerate too much of a fundamentalist back-step to the Khomeini era. So to answer your question, I personally think the solution to the Iran problem will come from the inside of Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armjan Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 (edited) i don't think israel will allow the iranians to go much further, what makes the problem a little harder is that Iran will probably continue taking a stance. boy, aren't we going to miss these oil prices. just think, one day, you'll think of the old days when gas was $3.20 a pop. Edited April 28, 2006 by armjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 (park = bagdad?) Mogadishu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lev7 Posted April 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 It is just this whole conflict with Iran is making Armenia look bad and Azerbaijan good. Armenia has good relations with Iran, America might single out Armenia or put pressure on us. Azerbaijan on the other hand has more of an advantage, they are more pro-U.S.A. and there are about 25 million Azeris living in Iran, which the U.S. can use to its advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 It is just this whole conflict with Iran is making Armenia look bad and Azerbaijan good. Armenia has good relations with Iran, America might single out Armenia or put pressure on us. Azerbaijan on the other hand has more of an advantage, they are more pro-U.S.A. and there are about 25 million Azeris living in Iran, which the U.S. can use to its advantage. In my opinion Azerbaijan is in a more difficult situation between US and Iran than Armenia. At the end Azerbaijan could come out losers on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) In my opinion Azerbaijan is in a more difficult situation between US and Iran than Armenia. At the end Azerbaijan could come out losers on both sides. And! Now that we thought we had gotten rid of that UNHOLY TRINITY of Wolfowitz, Feith and Perle. Now that we thought that our “Fearless Laader” had finally waken up of his stupor/abushanq, that he has finally realized how he was misled to believe that Iraqis were the fabled “anti-Christs”, or more specifically “anti-Jewhovah”. Now comes yet another “prophet”. Add him to the “unholy trinity” to make an even larger “unholy quartet”. With “prophets of the like we will soon be singing in that quartet up there. Who says the era of idiots has long gone? Yet. One wonders who the idiots are, us, I mean U.S. or them? You think Iraq is hell, yes, it is hot there, but being a flat country where one can see all the way from Bsra to Babylon. Try that in Iran, a country with millions of mountains and valleyes, nooks and crannies and see how many GI will emerge, in what condition, on their own two feet or in six foot box. Look what this idiot is saying. In a stark statement published on Saturday Brigadier General Oded Tira observed, "President Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran. To see the whole article; http://www.today.az/news/politics/34565.html In the meantime see this excerpt. “As if all of that Israel-lobbying in America and Europe were not enough, General Tira proposes an even more aggressive political tactic, "We must clandestinely cooperate with Saudi Arabia so that it also persuades the US to strike Iran. For our part, we must prepare an independent military strike by coordinating flights in Iraqi airspace with the US. We should also coordinate with Azerbaijan the use of airbases in its territory and also enlist the support of the Azeri minority in Iran. In addition, we must immediately start preparing for an Iranian response to an attack." Why do people still read that hateful and hatemongering Book of Lies, aka OT** when newer and improved versions are being written everyday? ** Those who doubt my words are free to conduct a search at this site, http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/kjv/ using keywords- LOVE and WAR respectively and count he outcomes. Edited January 6, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) We should also coordinate with Azerbaijan the use of airbases in its territory and also enlist the support of the Azeri minority in Iran. In addition, we must immediately start preparing for an Iranian response to an attack." Yes. Yes! Let Azerkakjan become an airbase and see Baku become a suburb of Bakaran and TelAviv a suburb ofTehran. Edited January 6, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 I don't think the Azeris are stupid enough as to commit suicide. This Israeli fellow should definitely volunteer instead. BAKU: Israeli general suggests to use Azerbaijan's airbases v Iran January 06, 2007 00:24:58 Israeli general suggests to use Azerbaijan's airbases in strike against Iran 02 January 2007 [01:20] - Today.Az In a stark statement published on Saturday Brigadier General Oded Tira observed, "President Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran. As an American strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and US newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure." Because of the dramatic loss of political power of the Bush-Cheney administration, General Tira urges the Israel Lobby to, "turn to Hillary Clinton and other potential presidential candidates in the Democratic Party so that they support immediate action by Bush against Iran." In another move designed to strengthen Bush politically, General Tira urges the Israel Lobby to exert its influence on European countries so that, "Bush will not be isolated in the international arena again." As if all of that Israel-lobbying in America and Europe were not enough, General Tira proposes an even more aggressive political tactic, "We must clandestinely cooperate with Saudi Arabia so that it also persuades the US to strike Iran. For our part, we must prepare an independent military strike by coordinating flights in Iraqi airspace with the US. We should also coordinate with Azerbaijan the use of airbases in its territory and also enlist the support of the Azeri minority in Iran. In addition, we must immediately start preparing for an Iranian response to an attack." Based on the urgency of General Tira's extraordinary pleas, it is immediately apparent that he has been shocked by the turn of political events inside America. By this time, he has learned from official US sources that the long-anticipated attack against Iran has been shelved because of tectonic shifts in American politics. Apparently, General Tira did not realize that President Bush has become the most deeply unpopular president in American history and that it was his subservience to the dictates of the Israel Lobby and its demands for wars against Iraq and Iran that led him into the political prison where he now finds himself isolated and impotent. Neither does General Tira realize that the Republican Party is no longer unified in its support of President Bush's deeply unpopular war in Iraq or his plans for expanding the war by a sustained bombing campaign against Iran. Since General Tira did not publish any remarks about the Iraq Study Group headed by former US Secretary of State, James Baker, he may be oblivious to the political facts now in place in 2007 America. Instead of the bipartisan commitment to broaden Bush's unpopular war as General Tira proposes, there is now a broadening bipartisan movement to reign in the US losses in Iraq. No major American politician has voiced any enthusiasm for broadening Bush's war into Iran as General Tira beseeches the US to do. General Tira's outburst suggests that the official channels for news and the analysis of public affairs in Israel are not working as efficiently as they should in the 21st century. Perhaps, someone should provide the General with a subscription to Ha'aretz and the International Herald Tribune for starters. By Michael Carmichael, Global Research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Mogadishu. funny you mention operation "irene"... 19 dead americans...1000 dead somalis with a kill ratio like that...who needs russia? (imagine in artsakh!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 irlandahay you fool ireen was almost a complete disaster. the kill ratio was supposed to be 0 american dead and last a half hour, instead it lasted 2 days with 19 dead americans. 1000 dead somalis? who gives a damn, it isn't hard to kill little naked black people running around with aks when your the us army. now about armenia's stance on iran. if the entire world community goes against iran, obviously so will armenia. if the economic ties are good now, armenia would rather be on the winning side of the war..which they would rather be the us, to have even greater economic advantages. barskahyes are fleeing iran in large numbers to armenia as it is, so we can wish that if the war is imminant, armenia would like to protect it's people (because crazy muslims would kill all christians they see in a war against the west) basically, barskastane hayits bidi barbevi baderasme arach. armenia would surely offer it's airbases to coalition forces. azerbaijan on the other hand would be in deep shiznit if they go to war against iran, as you mentionned there are some 25 million azeris as well as turkomenis in iran, they would be victims of an angry bunch of fundamentalist iranians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 An "easy way out" for the West would be: - To support separatist movements in Iran, such as the Iranian Azeris who seem to be fooled by the Pan-Turkist propaganda of their northern neighbours. or - To support a nationalist revolution with the help of the Iranians in the diaspora (who oppose the current regime). I don't know if any of you think that this is logical, but I have a feeling that both of these will happen simultaneously, and as a result, Iran would turn to be another Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Has anyone heard of the concept of “suicide by cop”? This morning we woke up to world abuzz with news published in the Sunday Times about more sabre rattling by that pup in the Middle East. Below, one reaction to the new . It seems every new agency has responded in some form or another. Conduct a search using “Israel nuclear Iran” as your keywords and see. Of course Israel is officially denying but as we have seen on many occasions news of this sort don’t get leaked into the news by “accident”. Coming back to “suicide by cop”. This phrase is nothing new, It had been said long time ago that; “when the dog senses or wishes the imminence of its demise, it craps at the gate of the mosque”. Do you think Israel is tired of being a nation and they are secretly wishing that their stamp size country were wiped off the map? It is no secre, that mad man of Tehran has offered his services. OK, TelAviv may have the know how of missiles et al but where will they get the foot soldiers to hold the Iranians down lest they fly-walk over and infest that land as locusts? Of course! The poor US GI! Or are they assuming that Turkish foot soldiers will patrol the streets of Tehran? Regardless, a scenario of the kind will create such a spectacle that the world has not seen since Hiroshima, and will keep the news media afire for a long time. VERRRY INTERRESTING! It seems like something will happen. It may conflagrate the entire region. In the meantime, one wonders if Yerevan is watching and what would its position be when the territorial boundaries of the major actors are once again fuzzed up. ========= Israel to hit Iran over Turkey The English Sunday Times Newspaper discussed Israel's possible war plans. The newspaper stated that it is getting ready to bomb Iran with nuclear weapons and conducts attack exercises with flights over Gibraltar for weeks. According to the newspaper, one of the three attack routes is over Turkey.Â… Israel is getting ready to respond to Iran's continuing of its nuclear operations despite the sanction resolution to end its enriched uranium production issued by the United Nations Security Council last month. Israel, assuming that Iran will have nuclear weapons in two years' time, plans to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities with uranium re-entry vehicles. According to an article in the English Sunday Times Newspaper based on Israeli military sources, two air fleet from the Israeli Air Force are being trained to shoot three targets, especially the uranium enrichment facility in Natanz. The newspaper stated that it is getting ready to bomb Iran with nuclear weapons and as been conducting attack exercises with flights over Gibraltar for weeks. According to the newspaper, one of the three attack routes is over Turkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budrig Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 We have Armenians living in Israel and we have Armenians living in Iran, no matter who strikes first, Armenians will get hurt in this war. We also got hurt in the Bombing of Iraq. When Israel bombed Beriut, Armenia provided Armenians living in Lebanon safe passage to Armenia. Its seems that no matter what country you pick in the Middle East Armenians will be caught in the crossfire. Lets hope that for the sake of Armenian lives, USA or Israel will not attack Iran. If it does, here is what I think will happen, Iran will fire back a few missles for good faith but then the storm will pass and things will go back to normal. (Normal for the middle east) There is a major difference between saying you will fight and actually fighting and also a big difference between fighting for your homeland (being invaded) and just being bombed without the fear of losing land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 We have Armenians living in Israel and we have Armenians living in Iran, no matter who strikes first, Armenians will get hurt in this war. We also got hurt in the Bombing of Iraq. When Israel bombed Beriut, Armenia provided Armenians living in Lebanon safe passage to Armenia. Its seems that no matter what country you pick in the Middle East Armenians will be caught in the crossfire. Lets hope that for the sake of Armenian lives, USA or Israel will not attack Iran. If it does, here is what I think will happen, Iran will fire back a few missles for good faith but then the storm will pass and things will go back to normal. (Normal for the middle east) There is a major difference between saying you will fight and actually fighting and also a big difference between fighting for your homeland (being invaded) and just being bombed without the fear of losing land. Okay first of all if America attacks Iran hello world war 3 another thing is the only reason we would attack Iran is because of stupid Israel America does what ever Israel wants them to do Israel is surrounded by Muslim nations and there using Americans to attack others. I'm sorry but i also hate what Israel is doing to the Palestinians let those people free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budrig Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Okay first of all if America attacks Iran hello world war 3 another thing is the only reason we would attack Iran is because of stupid Israel America does what ever Israel wants them to do Israel is surrounded by Muslim nations and there using Americans to attack others. I'm sorry but i also hate what Israel is doing to the Palestinians let those people free! Pridicting World war 3 is a bite of a reach. There would be no other Arab country who would get involved, so it would be 3 ring circus. (USA, Israel and Iran) You said 'we" would attack, is this "we" meaning Armenia or United states. Armenia has no business attacking Iran. As an Armenian, first comes the safty of Armenia and Armenians. As I posted earlier, Lets hope for peace becuase any other way, Armenians will get hurt. You, Me and the rest of the understanding world does not like what Israel is doing to the Palentinians but what does that have to do with this topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Pridicting World war 3 is a bite of a reach. There would be no other Arab country who would get involved, so it would be 3 ring circus. (USA, Israel and Iran) You said 'we" would attack, is this "we" meaning Armenia or United states. Armenia has no business attacking Iran. As an Armenian, first comes the safty of Armenia and Armenians. As I posted earlier, Lets hope for peace becuase any other way, Armenians will get hurt. You, Me and the rest of the understanding world does not like what Israel is doing to the Palentinians but what does that have to do with this topic? I'm just saying what Israel is doing basically everything they do is wrong what they did in Lebanon if America attacks Iran than Israel will step in and than other countries will get involved Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan they have way more fire power than both of them combined. Total mayhem will break out I'm predicting but its not a good thing maybe even Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budrig Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I'm just saying what Israel is doing basically everything they do is wrong what they did in Lebanon if America attacks Iran than Israel will step in and than other countries will get involved Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan they have way more fire power than both of them combined. Total mayhem will break out I'm predicting but its not a good thing maybe even Russia. Lets hope that it doesn't come to this, but keep in mind that the will of the people are not followed by the governments of the middle east. Lines are being drawn and politics dictates that the war is faught and won even before the first shot is fired. Meaning the US will secure aggreements with everyone in the middle east to ensure everyone stays in line. Mayhem will not break out, Israel can't afford that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annannimusss Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 If there is a war between the USA and Iran and the USA decides to go by land they will use Azerbaijan,or at the very least use there airbases.And the fake state of Azerbaijan will be gone after it because Iran will retaliate.This is what has been reported in the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 That was Israel who wants to use there air bases better for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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