shiner Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Dragon,I think the article summarizes all sides of the issue very accurately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Really? is that what you think? Anyway, thanks for the comment. Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Check this, i almost fell down from my chair laphing: http://hokis.co.uk/MPEG/TopTen/zadoyanBros...os02Germany.mpg Look at these two punks from Germany :: )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) [ March 16, 2001: Message edited by: Aghmug ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Artur:Check this, i almost fell down from my chair laphing: http://hokis.co.uk/MPEG/TopTen/zadoyanBros...os02Germany.mpg Look at these two punks from Germany :: ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))[ March 16, 2001: Message edited by: Aghmug ]I KNOW::::: ))))))))))))) I SAW!::: ))))Why did you edit the post Pilafhead? Go on, what did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayane Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Aneta, I completely agree that they're "addressing the issue" in a filthy, low class, tasteless manner. FYI, I don't think this song is going to "liberate any minds". When I say anything on this issue, please don't misunderstand it as a defense of Hokis in any way, shape, or form. What I AM defending is the necessity of bringing these kinds of issues to the forefront of our consciousness. The WAY in which it's done, in this case, I have no control over and will never defend. I hope this explains my position a little better. Mikey, call me old fashioned, but I believe an entertainer has to have a certain level of class. Every punk can get up on stage and "perform"; doesn't mean they're capable of PERFORMING. I saw Hokis live; they can't behave properly, NOR can they sing. That automatically renders their "music" worthless to me. You know it'd be fine if they chose to play a ROLE on stage or when singing, but in this case it's not a role they're playing, it's them (think Madonna; I don't care how many times she strips on video, I can actually sit down and watch one of her interviews without wincing; very intelligent woman; and that's what's carried her through all these years. Let's see where Hokis will be in 20 years) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilafhead Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Gayane:I saw Hokis live; they can't behave properly, NOR can they sing. That automatically renders their "music" worthless to me. I'll give you part of that. I saw their song from the AMA and thought they sounded terrible. So I didn't go to any of their shows.I like the music though, forget the mouths in the front. Except for Dariner Antsni, I would like the songs just as much (maybe more!) if they were instrumentals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nané Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Gayane, There is a proper way of doing something and there is an improper way of doing it. Even IF they are trying to address the "repression of a woman's sexuality in our culture" issue they are doing it in a filthy way. This song is NOT going to liberate any minds ... it's only going to give birth to more songs that show disrespect towards females (and their fathers). Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nané Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Gayane:I hope this explains my position a little better.It does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 Who are the Hokis singers? They are no professionals. There is an armenian discoteque in London. The founders of this disco decided to make a CD by english "armenians". And they asked the visitors if anybody can sing. So theys found couple of volontieers, and thats how the CD was released. Artur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayane Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 Although one of those guys (don't know his name, the baby faced one) is kinda cute He has better manners than all the rest of them combined anyhow...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 Is the "comedian" type one on the front of the webpage? And what is the other one doing climbing though someone's window? Cant figure that one out. I hope it's not some thing naughty becuase that creates a bad impression of armenians on the audience, many of which it's their FIRST impressions of armenians.. Arturm your anaylsis is right.. But like I say, there is nothing wrogn with STARTS. I thin the reson they are allowed to tour over the world as amateurs is becuase this is the first British-diaspora thing from young people. Whether it's just any old thing or not, well that's a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 The song is so funny.The group sucks! Rap in Armenian sounds so bad. The guys can hardly sing. There is no music in the song. I don't really have a problem with the lyrics of "overprotective dad" because that's the reality & that's the way it is today for american, black, french or armenian. The times have changed. The group sucks big time. I didn't really understand every single word they were saying because i have a difficulty understanding western Armenian, but still they got no class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armeniangirl83 Posted April 7, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 i want also give mine opinion about overprotective dad. who can translate thit:??? It's the song from hokis Overprotective Dad Hye baba-ne roun betge sud khosink, Ouzenk ne dughayi hed bargink As badmoutiunuh hajis luseh,Tcheneh akhtchigit babat kezi guh dzedzeh,Aghtchig ounisneh lav vorosheh,Iren tubnasneh ir baban tchi luseh.Dasnuvets daregan, gam kusan-tchors,Babayin hartsunesneh inkuh guseh votch.Mintchev amousnanas, tches grnar tubnas,Yev tchuh lusem vor toun ounetsar tats yeraz.Intch vor tchen desnar, tchen kider,Anor hamar menk gertank Hay barer,Anank degher gunenk aghdod paner,Aghtchig dapadis metchuh ounim nuver.As shounuh gouzeh kunal gadou Yegour im senyagus mintchev ardour,Khmitchk guh khumenk yev khod guh dzukhenk,Yev intch vor ouzesneh miasin gunenk. Chorus x 2Amen babaneruh vor guh gardzenVor irents aghthigneruh makour enTchen havadar yes intch gusemHramoutiunut bedk tchounim vor aghtchigut arnem Aghtchigner gan vor guh siren unel,Eh aveli aghtchig gah vor tchen sirer,Gou zesneh iren tours danis,Aratch bedkeh iren babayin heduh khosis.Bedkeh nsdis ir heduh, sourj khumesYev amen ir hartsoumneruh bedkeh badaskhanes.Mintchev vor inkuh ourakh eh vor toun lav dughah es,Lav kordz gunes yev arten toun Hay es.Aghtchigis heduh oushatroutiun ureh,Nayi vor inkuh pan muh tchi tzagher.Yev khumitchk ouzeneh hajis mi tsuker,Yev mi mornar dasen aratch doun per.Aghtchigus shnorhkov eh batchig tchunes,Hay baba aghtchigut haveh yev yes em aghves.Inkuh ouzeneh intchbes bid getsunes,Atchkerut kots aghtchig guh medztsunes. Chorus x 2 Chess key dare inch ga nem , chess key dare our gertum An babaneruh vor hin midk ouninEshi bes guh boran, intchou yes pokhvim,Guh medztsunem aghtchigus intchbes vor ouzemKesh panereh abahov guh bahem.Eh kou yedevut inkuh amen intch guneh,Guh khumeh, guh dzukheh dughayi hed guh sireh,Anoushig ullaneh anshoushd guh gokhem,Anank marmin ir hakousduh guh badrem.Meg yergou, dapadus hanem,Louysuh marem, iren voruh zarnem.Vertchanamneh shoud guh mornamGertam barahantes meg had nor kudnam.Im gyankus asank gabrim,Orenki hamar akhorjag tchounim,Aratchin ankamut eh, eh mi vakhnar,Yed bargir, vodkerut pats yev ar. Chorus x 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted April 9, 2001 Report Share Posted April 9, 2001 One wordANMAGARTAG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted April 13, 2001 Report Share Posted April 13, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Anna:The song is so funny.I don't really have a problem with the lyrics of "overprotective dad" because that's the reality & that's the way it is today for american, black, french or armenian. The times have changed. "Reality" in your own eyes. And thing will change unless you change. To be honest i don't really care what some punks sing, but i would love to ask a question to them, what if they would have a daughter. Will they just let their girls to be used by someone, while they are watching CNN night news. Artur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armeniangirl83 Posted April 17, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 thaks for translate it! my opinion: disgusting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilafhead Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 a.g.83, Can we delete the lyrics now??? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armeniangirl83 Posted April 17, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 oke moderator, you can delete them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berj Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 This "Overprotective dad" theme was sung in much more civilized way in a very nice song some 50 years ago: As much as I remeber the words: "Girl went back to Napoly,Because she missed the scenery,The native dances and the charming songsBut wait a minute, something's wrong. Hey Mambo, don't want Tarantella,Hey Mambo, no more Mosarella... ...Mama says stop it or I'm gonna tell your papa...' Hey Mambo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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