Iran Leader Calls For Israel's Destruction

[Verginne]

Sip, when Bush called for the destruction of Iraq? Even this moron won't go that low. Asking the fall of a regime is not the same as asking the destruction of a nation.

 

Bush didn't have to "call for it" he just did it. You don't call the tons of bombs and DU destroying a nation, not to mention all of the starving children?

 

What is with people here? Iran has a friendly relationship with Armenia an alliance and symbiotic relationship, while israel actively works to harm Armenia and Armenians. Not to mention, whose food, medical supplies and weapons were found on dead azeris and mujahadeen during the Artsax war anyway?

 

You want to talk about WMD and THREATS, israel has threatened to nuke all the capitals of Europe.

[shaunt]

Iran is one of the few countries in the world that conduct their own foreign and domestic politicies without foreign influences. I must praise Iran for their strong leadership.

 

And guess what? They have managed to alienate themselves. Real nice foreign policy, wouldn't you say?

 

Bush didn't have to "call for it" he just did it. You don't call the tons of bombs and DU destroying a nation, not to mention all of the starving children?

 

What is with people here? Iran has a friendly relationship with Armenia an alliance and symbiotic relationship, while israel actively works to harm Armenia and Armenians. Not to mention, whose food, medical supplies and weapons were found on dead azeris and mujahadeen during the Artsax war anyway?

 

You want to talk about WMD and THREATS, israel has threatened to nuke all the capitals of Europe.

 

1) After we are done with Iraq, there will still exist an Iraqi state. Go and learn the grammar of the word "destruction," and the variety of uses it has.

 

2) No one is questioning the relationship Armenia has with Iran. And just because they are a regional ally does not mean they can say or do whatever they please without evoking some sort of a response from us. Calling for the destruction of an entire is barbaric.

 

3) Sorry, there are far too many level headed people in the Israel for me to worry about them using their nuclear bombs on another nation without provocation. Can you say the same for Iran? If you can, then I am worried about the type of company you have been keeping.

[Z'areh]

We are faced to deal again, unfortunately, with the garbage of other nations' internal political blunders.

 

Our friendliest of neighbours seems to be suffering from a political crisis, again. How else can you explain the head of a nation uttering such stupid words as an initiation to his presidential tenure. More radical than a cleric, this civilian who came from nowhere, was put in place by Iran's revolutionary council, whose qualifications seem to have been his hatred of the West and the state of Israel. This guy is a catastrophe for Iranians primarily, and to Armenia as well, by making Azerbaijan even more important for the West.

 

The political crisis of the ruling elite of Iran seem to stem from the lack of support they enjoy from the general public. The fear of these clerics who hold the power is that they will receive the brunt of the public's outrage when things start to fall apart, so they push forward a "civilian" who will maintain the status quo. And what better way to keep things smooth for these rulers than to call for the destruction of Israel, go back to 1979 and re-install the "glory days" of the people's love and devotion of Ayatollah Khomayni.

 

The bankrupt ideology that Iran wants to maintain is nothing but a desperate attempt by a small group to survive and avoid (I'd say delay) the wrath of their own people. Ahmadinejad might actually accelerate this process, which is why I think he will be removed by the same people who put him there.

 

And from the mouth of such a personality we hear support for the Armenian Genocide. We appreciate it, but such support is totally meaningless and not welcomed from a person who is actually advocating another genocide.

Edited November 4, 2005 by Z'areh

[Artsakh]

And guess what? They have managed to alienate themselves. Real nice foreign policy, wouldn't you say?

 

No, I would not say. What ever do you mean? Do you know how many major countries, including russia, have strategic relations with Iran? Do you know how many us-allies, with the exception of israel, bust their balls to be friends with Iran? Iran is pursuing its politics just right. The previous regime was a toy in the hands of Washingtion.

[Artsakh]

Hmm where have you been US is run by Jews-not news-not anti whatever but plain reality.You need to look deeper who made the decisions to go to war on Iraq.

 

 

You misunderstood me. My response was towards that guy who said "iran is making itself out to be the next traget." Obviously, that guy is some jew-hugger. However, he is careless, that that statement in itself is "anti-semitic" because it suggests that jews control america because washington will fight all of isreaels enemies. He was trying to be politically correct, but that goes to show ever jew-huggers know whats what.

[Dave]

The peoples islamic republic of Iran is the only true friend and neighbor that Armenia has in that region. Historically, Armenian and Iranian peoples are very close, going back to our aryan roots.

 

Our relationship with Iran was not always that good. Vartan Mamigonian comes to mind. The expulsion of Armenians from Nakhichevan comes to mind, etc. Armenian-Iranian relations improved only after the Iranian Revolution of the early 1900s.

 

And from the mouth of such a personality we hear support for the Armenian Genocide. We appreciate it, but such support is totally meaningless and not welcomed from a person who is actually advocating another genocide.

 

Exactly. I posted that article because it was so ironic.

[Artsakh]

Our relationship with Iran was not always that good. Vartan Mamigonian comes to mind. The expulsion of Armenians from Nakhichevan comes to mind, etc. Armenian-Iranian relations improved only after the Iranian Revolution of the early 1900s.

 

I mean sure, we've had our ups and downs with the russians too. But ultimately, they are both friendly nations-we have our strategic relations with them, and they enjoy the same strategic parthership with us. Vartan and his troops went to war with the Persians, and despite having officially "lost" the war, the persians had enough dignity to respect the Armenians' right to hold on to their Christian faith, and consequently allowed them autonomy. And while I am not trying to justify the expulsion of Armenians from Nakhijevan, at least they were not butchered. On the contrary, they were removed to Isfahan and Armenians were treated litteraly as royalty. Furthermore, had the Persians not removed the Armenians, the invading Turks would have annihilated them. Need I remind you that the time was of hardcore war between the Ottomans and Persians.

[Artsakh]

And from the mouth of such a personality we hear support for the Armenian Genocide. We appreciate it, but such support is totally meaningless and not welcomed from a person who is actually advocating another genocide.

 

Isreali actions within Palestine is nothing short of Genocide. But lets not dwell on what goes on elsewhere. Let us take care of our own issues first, and perhaps we'll have time to get into the problems faced by other countries.

[Dave]

I mean sure, we've had our ups and downs with the russians too. But ultimately, they are both friendly nations-we have our strategic relations with them, and they enjoy the same strategic parthership with us. Vartan and his troops went to war with the Persians, and despite having officially "lost" the war, the persians had enough dignity to respect the Armenians' right to hold on to their Christian faith, and consequently allowed them autonomy. And while I am not trying to justify the expulsion of Armenians from Nakhijevan, at least they were not butchered. On the contrary, they were removed to Isfahan and Armenians were treated litteraly as royalty. Furthermore, had the Persians not removed the Armenians, the invading Turks would have annihilated them. Need I remind you that the time was of hardcore war between the Ottomans and Persians.

 

You made a good point. I forgot about how Armenians were treated in the Russian Empire, and how the Russians pitted the Azeris against us, etc...

 

Many the Armenians who were following the Persian troops unfortunately drowned when they were crossing the Arax river.

[shaunt]

No, I would not say. What ever do you mean? Do you know how many major countries, including russia, have strategic relations with Iran? Do you know how many us-allies, with the exception of israel, bust their balls to be friends with Iran? Iran is pursuing its politics just right. The previous regime was a toy in the hands of Washingtion.

 

List those countries, who are US allies, and are "busting their balls" to be friends with Iran.

 

And Russia is making a lot of money off Iran. Why wouldn't they be friends?

[Artsakh]

List those countries, who are US allies, and are "busting their balls" to be friends with Iran.

 

And Russia is making a lot of money off Iran. Why wouldn't they be friends?

 

 

Dude, don't you keep up with any world news? Europe has excellent relations with Iran, in particular the major european powers France and Germany. The United States has constantly tried to pressure on its fellow NATO member countries to follow suit and cut all diplomatic and trade relations with Iran, but the Europeans refuse. On the contrary, they look foward to increasing all their trade and economic relations and investments in Iran. The Americans have also failed in trying to get European oil companies out of Iran. Iran has fine and dandy trade relations with all of its neighbors, and other major countries like China and Japan. What in the world are you talking about they are isolated? Quit watching CNN, and know that there is a whole world out there outside the US.

 

You may find this article interesting:

 

8/9/05

Europeans Eager to Improve Trade Relations with Iran

A delegation of European Parliament to Iran expressed Europe's eagerness to improve trade and investment relations with Iran.

 

Tehran, 8 August 2005 (CHN) – Iran has right now a 44% rate of import from European countries and the European Parliament seems eager to increase that rate and develop investments in Iran.

 

In a recent visit to Iran, Professor Dr. Hans-Gert Pottering, chairman of the conservative faction EPP in the European Parliament since 1999, met with Alinaghi Khamushi, chairman of Iran's Chamber of Commerce, Industries, and Mines, to talk of business and trade relations between Europe and Iran.

 

Dr. Pottering who is in Iran with a four-strong delegation, announced that the European Parliament is eager to invest in Iran and increase its imports to the country.

 

Pottering will succeed Josep Borrell Fontelles as President of the European Parliament in the second part of this parliamentary term, which is in 2007.

 

The delegation consists of German representatives, a country which according to Pottering has seen lots of economic fluctuations in the last couple of years, however, has had an increase of import-export relations with Iran.

 

Pottering believes that to take part in the Middle East market, Europe, in general and Germany in particular, should work on Iranian market, specially with regard to China, Korea, and Japan having successful wise moves in Iran.

 

Khamushi explained that despite Europe's main role in energy projects of Iran they have not been that successful in other projects such as the underground system of Tehran and other major cities.

 

The international deputy of Iran's Chamber of Commerce, Dr. Fereidoun Entezari, believes that business relations will surely improve if the Europeans do not pollute the economic issues with the political ones.

 

http://www.payvand.com/news/05/aug/1099.html

[Artsakh]

And Russia is making a lot of money off Iran. Why wouldn't they be friends?

 

That's exactly the reason why a lot of US allies want to be friends with Iran also, because there all types of interest in Iran. The US too has a lot of benefit to see from iran. Unfortunately, at the moment US foreign policy is not guided by its own interests, but that of a another, very tiny, country.

[phantom22]

You misunderstood me. My response was towards that guy who said "iran is making itself out to be the next traget." Obviously, that guy is some jew-hugger. However, he is careless, that that statement in itself is "anti-semitic" because it suggests that jews control america because washington will fight all of isreaels enemies. He was trying to be politically correct, but that goes to show ever jew-huggers know whats what.

 

Do you really think that the US will sit on the sidelines the day that Iran attacks the State of Israel? What Ahmadinejad has done is a provocation for the US to remove the present regime in Iran.

[Artsakh]

Do you really think that the US will sit on the sidelines the day that Iran attacks the State of Israel? What Ahmadinejad has done is a provocation for the US to remove the present regime in Iran.

 

 

No I don't think the US will sit on its ass. On the contrary, the US will go to hell and high waters to fight that countries war. Which proves my point on who really runs this country. How every, what remains is the fact that such an action will be a complete diasaster for for the United States, for Iran, for the region, and for the whole world. Iran is a powerful country capable of defending itself. Don't confuse it with other coutries in the region. Furthermore, Russia would not allow any military actions against Iran.

[MosJan]

Oskanian: Iranian Leader Statement on Israel will not Affect Relations with Armenia

05.11.2005 19:27 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The failure of the referendum on the Constitution of Armenia will disappoint European circles, resulting in damage of the country authority, stated Armenian Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian at a meeting with the teaching staff and students of Yerevan State University. “Of course no one will apply sanctions against us, however the country authority will be harmed. Europe expects us to implement these changes,” the Minister stated. Answering the question whether the failure of the referendum will affect the talks on settlement of the Nagorno Artsax conflict, the Armenian FM remarked the reduction of country’s authority results in reduction of its influence. “However, I would not like to consider direct connection between the referendum and settlement of the Nagorno Artsax conflict,” stated the Armenian FM.

 

When commenting on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s statement that “Israel should be wiped off the map,” Oskanian remarked the statement will not affect the Armenian-Iranian relations. In his words, rather positive relations have been formed between Armenia and Iran. “Notable dialogue is under way in all fields, specifically the political one,” he said. Israeli issues “have never been on the agenda of the Armenian-Iranian political dialogue”, V. Oskanian emphasized. “I suppose that proceeding from our numerous interests our relations will further have a normal course,” the Minister said, reported IA Regnum.

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[Z'areh]

Isreali actions within Palestine is nothing short of Genocide. But lets not dwell on what goes on elsewhere. Let us take care of our own issues first, and perhaps we'll have time to get into the problems faced by other countries.

 

My concern is exactly that, and as such I'd like to chose a friend who is credible. Nothing good can come out of discredited leadership.

[Artsakh]

And from the mouth of such a personality we hear support for the Armenian Genocide. We appreciate it, but such support is totally meaningless and not welcomed from a person who is actually advocating another genocide.

 

Yes, that's right, we do appreciate the display of such backbone by a Muslim country when other so-called "fellow" Christians are indifferent and quick to disregard it to protect their economic interests in Turkey.

 

Don't you worry your head what Iran's relationship with other countries is. If it suits our interests, then you will treat that country with respect and honor.

 

Only if there were Jews like yourself. I do not see any Jews protesting Israel-Turkey relations which in all its essence is Anti-Armenian from head to toe, from Genocide denial to threatening Armenia's statehood by supplying the Turks with all sorts of modern weaponary, despite their continued hostile attitude. Need I remind you, BLOCKADE IS AN ACT OF WAR. In the midst of such recklessness, I do not see any Jews protesting Turkish-Jewish ties. Quit being a dumb puppet.

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Edited November 16, 2005 by Artsakh

[Z'areh]

And from the mouth of such a personality we hear support for the Armenian Genocide. We appreciate it, but such support is totally meaningless and not welcomed from a person who is actually advocating another genocide.

 

This argument is a valid assessmet....and still stands regardless of weak rantings.