kakachik77 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 TigranG don't you have more important things to do than write long entries like that about nonesense that nobody cares about in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 he's a provocatur what'd you expect. of course he's gonna write an essay about everything, because he's not here to converse, he's here to propogate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 How hard is it to post and not to insult each other it will be nice if you can spend moment of your time to edit and take the nasty language out of your post - since no one has the time to edit them for you - we will simply delete the post that contains any bad language MOvses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Movses, inchu es tuylatrum ayspisi haka-Haykakan propaganda azat tpagrvi aystegh? style_images/master/snapback.png isk ov asets te yes tuyl talis em ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigranG Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) Here is a geographical lesson for all... http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/am.html Armenia is in SouthWest Asia... or in a political sence, Middle East! Mountain Ararat is in middle east and not europe... Since Armenia belongs to the Ararat region,in which they praise the ancestrial mountain, it has no choice but to be a middle Eastern country (with western ideas)... Have some respect for our Urartian ancestors! The only way Armenia and its people would become European is if someone would physically remove it from near east and place it in Europe... By the way, can anyone explain what makes armenian culture european, because since the beginning of time their culture had always been known as near eastern(music,food,etc)... Edited September 22, 2005 by TigranG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 armenia is neither in europe or middle east, it's in the armeanin highland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigranG Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) Really? I didn't know that there is a region that was devoted to one country... Oh so Arabia is not in the middle east, its on the Arabian platau, and Iran has its own platau as well, so its not middle east right? These are the only regions that exist, Europe, Asia, Africa, Americas, and Australia, and some little islands in the pacific... Edited September 22, 2005 by TigranG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 ha, qo asatsn a, glux shinir.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 The question is not whether Armenians are European or part of Europe or not, but whether Europeans are Armenian or part of Armenia or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 The question is not whether Armenians are European or part of Europe or not, but whether Europeans are Armenian or part of Armenia or not. style_images/master/snapback.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 ha, qo asatsn a, glux shinir.... style_images/master/snapback.png asa e asa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigranG Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Sip, what in the hell are you talking about... You think that Eropeans are Armenian? Wake up... Armenians are not the first people in the world, and the archeologists already traced the first proto-europeans migrating for north africa to europe. Armenians remind me of Hebrews thinking everyone came from them... There is no evidence that suggests either one, so stop trying to misinform people with outrages armenian fairy tale stories... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 ha, qo asatsn a, glux shinir.... style_images/master/snapback.png to menak glux shinets es mardameke turk e zhogovurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artaxias Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 to menak glux shinets es mardameke turk e zhogovurt style_images/master/snapback.png Zhoghovourt@ xelqi pakas ouni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Sip, what in the hell are you talking about... You think that Eropeans are Armenian? Wake up... Armenians are not the first people in the world, and the archeologists already traced the first proto-europeans migrating for north africa to europe. Armenians remind me of Hebrews thinking everyone came from them... There is no evidence that suggests either one, so stop trying to misinform people with outrages armenian fairy tale stories... style_images/master/snapback.png Cool down dude, he was trying to be sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 (edited) Council of Europe website - Armenia member http://www.coe.int/T/e/com/about_coe/membe...tes/default.asp Lusine Tovmasyan Vice-Miss Europe 2005, Miss Armenia 2003 http://www.armtv.com/album/eng/?folder=43 Hosteling International website with the map and other travel websites http://www.hostelworld.com/continentmap.ph...ontinent.Europe http://www.europeonrent.com/armenia.htm http://www.bootsnall.com/hostels/europe/ http://www.partyguideonline.com/location/europe/Armenia.html website of Canadian Government http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/canadaeuropa/country-en.asp Finally, UEFA website - European football federation http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/countri...7419/index.html IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED! Edited September 23, 2005 by kakachik77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO WHERE WE ARE HEADED! EXACTLY!!!!! Well said Kakachik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 The question is not whether Armenians are European or part of Europe or not, but whether Europeans are Armenian or part of Armenia or not. style_images/master/snapback.png I wholeheartedly agree! Armenians are the most super Europeans! Few simple facts for the record. Some people are anoyed by the fact that Armenia is not geographically in Europe and still Armenians claim to be Europeans. Well, that has to do with us being Aryans - not only lingvistically but by ethnicity. Most cultures in the modern world - Europe, Middle East, Americas (North, Latin and Central) are by-product of massive nomadic migrations. The only nations that have never (despite all atempts) fully abandoned their ancestral homelands are Persians, Armenians and Greeks. Those cultures were capable to withstand against all odds foreign domination and nomadic invasions. Plus, we are strong acid. Despite all intermixing with neighbours today 96% of the population of Armenia claims Armenian origin. Our ancient culture, our pagan pantheon and beliefs were the cornerstone of most of later day European pagan beliefs. Our Christian heritage, our will for freedom and independance, and later our quest for equality and justice signified by our political parties are direct label and patent of European ideals. Our arts, aptitude for business and inovative thinking are the most lively evidence for what we are. That said, I say:The question is not whether Armenians are European or part of Europe or not, but whether Europeans are Armenian or part of Armenia or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigranG Posted September 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) Religion has nothing to do with ethnicity, Christianity is as middle eastern as Islam, Jesus was a middle eastern man not European... Just because Armenians were at one point Aryans (thousands of yrs ago) they have heavely intermixed with non-Aryans, same thing goes for Persian people, by the way label such as middle eastern simply means that your country is in the west asian region of the world, Pakistani, Afghani, and north Indian (Punjabi) people also claim to be Aryan, but there are no more pure aryan people in the west asian region, everyone is too mixed... So that statement is invalid... PS. Just because you found some websites that list Hayastan as a European country, doesn'tt mean anything, its not geographically correct, its an Armenian wish and nothing more, because geography cannot be changed, west Asia will never be Europe, so consult with a professional geogrophist and he will tell you that its impossible for Hayastan to be in Europe since European border is across the huge caucasian mountain north of Georgia. And as for the silly statement that can only be said by the funny armenians is "Whether the Europeans are armenian... LOL that is the most ignorant statement I've ever heard, you ignore the anthropological facts!... READ ANTHROPOLOGY and you will find that the first migration of the proto-europeans went directly to western europe from north africa through what is now morroco... SORRY, the closest armenian people will be to white/european,is the small % of their Aryan ancestors which swims in a pool of other ancestors such as Urartian and semitic ones that mixed with them... Edited September 26, 2005 by TigranG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) And as for the silly statement that can only be said by the funny armenians is "Whether the Europeans are armenian... LOL that is the most ignorant statement I've ever heard, you ignore the anthropological facts!... READ ANTHROPOLOGY and you will find that the first migration of the proto-europeans went directly to western europe from north africa through what is now morroco... Edited September 26, 2005 by hytga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanetsi Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Just because Armenians were at one point Aryans (thousands of yrs ago) they have heavely intermixed with non-Aryans Thank you for clarifying your lack of knowledge of anthropology by making it evident of what your idea of Aryan is--- you believe "Aryan" means blonde-hair, blue eyes. I'll let you in on something--- this notion is what is called "Hitler's wet dream." Get your facts straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigranG Posted September 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Vanetsi, Point out where in my statement I mentioned that Aryans were blond-haired, blue-eyed people... Are you blind? I know damn well that they were not just of that description... They had blond,red, and brown hair, including brown,blue,grey, and green eyes... Dont assume next time what people mean... When you assume, you make an ASS out of you and me, but in this case only you! You must be very good at writing fiction... You must teach us all how to take a fly and turn it into an elephant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Just because Armenians were at one point Aryans (thousands of yrs ago) they have heavely intermixed with non-Aryans, same thing goes for Persian people, by the way label such as middle eastern simply means that your country is in the west asian region of the world, Pakistani, Afghani, and north Indian (Punjabi) people also claim to be Aryan, but there are no more pure aryan people in the west asian region, everyone is too mixed... style_images/master/snapback.png you are too silly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Let's stop with the personal insults folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Let's stop with the personal insults folks. style_images/master/snapback.png To quote Bernie Mac, "Don't get mad at me; I'm just saying what you can't say. You feel the same god damn way." . Surely he deserves a warning (at the least) for claiming that the Proto Indo-Europeans orignated from North Africa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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