Let's Face It, We Have A Small Population...

[theguywhosavedtheuniverse]

There is only about 10 million people around the world that consider themselves Armenian. In contrast there is probably 80 million Turks in Turkey. Last time I checked Armenians had a decent birth rate, but nothing compared to other countries. Add to that the number of Armenians race mixing and we are in deep trouble. I pride myself in the fact that I'm Armenian, but we are becoming too much like Gypsies. There are far too many people leaving Armenia in proportion with population growth. I live in California, but I plan on living the latter part of my life in Armenia.

 

My question to all of you is: What are the prospects in the foreseeable future, and how do we get around some of the problems this generation is facing?

[armjan]

well, I will sacrifise myself and go ahead and date white(s), hispanics, asians, and black women while giving them a peak @ armenian mojo.

[DominO123]

There is only about 10 million people around the world that consider themselves Armenian.  In contrast there is probably 80 million Turks in Turkey.  Last time I checked Armenians had a decent birth rate, but nothing compared to other countries.  Add to that the number of Armenians race mixing and we are in deep trouble. I pride myself in the fact that I'm Armenian, but we are becoming too much like Gypsies.  There are far too many people leaving Armenia in proportion with population growth. I live in California, but I plan on living the latter part of my life in Armenia.

 

My question to all of you is: What are the prospects in the foreseeable future, and how do we get around some of the problems this generation is facing?

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There is no 10 million Armenian in the world, we're more like close to 8 million. There is no 80 million Turks in Turkey.

 

I know many will disagree with me, but I believe that the assimilation rate of the Armenians is well under the assimilation rate of the average other minority ethnic groups in foreign countries, including the Jews(since now, but probably won't continue this way). Over the years, the birth versus death(and assimilation) rate has been positive and this for decades. I have statistics of World Armenian population, from the 1920s to year 2000+, from various estimations and they's more than OK considering the dispersion of the Armenian population. But it seems that the progression is slowing down, and the assimilation ratio will take over in the next decades in anglo-saxon countries, or cities where there is Armenian community dispersion.

[Dave]

I don't know about Armenian minorities in other parts of the world, but we're considered a strong community here. Read this and see how the Lebanese community of Canada wants to be like the Armenian one.

 

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...rticle_id=16720

Edited July 13, 2005 by Dave

[gamavor]

don't know about Armenian minorities in other parts of the world, but we're considered a strong community here. Read this and see how the Lebanese community of Canada wants to be like the Armenian one.

 

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...rticle_id=16720

 

I've heard the same adage from Bulgarians, Serbs, Polish, and number of other ill informed people.

 

Other than that I have to admit that we are good at creating a not very truthful image of being a strong community.

[Anonymouse]

Armenians are what we would call an "endangered species" in terms of numbers. Armenia itself has alot of emigration, and a negative birth rate. It is facing a population implosion. Armenians abroad are assimilating faster than you can say "Can I get that with fries?". While some communities may be stronger than others in the diaspora, generally speaking, most of them are weaker or weakening. Therefore, if current trends continue, it is my opinion that Armenians will be pretty much extinct after 2100.

 

By the way, this trend is not just with Armenians, it is happening to most of the Westenr European nations as well.

[Dave]

Armenia existed for thousands of years and has resisted foreign rule and genocide. That's why I think it won't be extinct anytime soon.

[kakachik77]

I don't understand why are Armenians or other ethnic groups so scared of disappearance. I mean at one point there were Urartu and Hayasa then in a way they went "extinct" and gave rise to new people called Armenians. At one point we have to die out and give rise to new nations, it's a cycle that's all! Our genetic make up will continue in the DNAs of people who would probably speak another language and practice a different religion, but at the end of the day we - the humanoids are all ONE irregardless of nationality.

[Anonymouse]

Armenia existed for thousands of years and has resisted foreign rule and genocide. That's why I think it won't be extinct anytime soon.

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This is a logical fallacy. Just because something has existed for thousands of years does not in anyway indicate that it will always exist. The past is not necessarily dependent on the future, thus this is an incorrect conclusion.

[Anonymouse]

I don't understand why are Armenians or other ethnic groups so scared of disappearance. I mean at one point there were Urartu and Hayasa then in a way they went "extinct" and gave rise to new people called Armenians. At one point we have to die out and give rise to new nations, it's a cycle that's all! Our genetic make up will continue in the DNAs of people who would probably speak another language and practice a different religion, but at the end of the day we - the humanoids are all ONE irregardless of nationality.

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This view suggests you may have been exposed to too much of these globalist ideas about borderless bliss.

[Dave]

This is a logical fallacy. Just because something has existed for thousands of years does not in anyway indicate that it will always exist. The past is not necessarily dependent on the future, thus this is an incorrect conclusion.

 

Maybe...

 

But our past shows something about us, doesn't it?

[gamavor]

There is only about 10 million people around the world that consider themselves Armenian.  In contrast there is probably 80 million Turks in Turkey.  Last time I checked Armenians had a decent birth rate, but nothing compared to other countries.  Add to that the number of Armenians race mixing and we are in deep trouble. I pride myself in the fact that I'm Armenian, but we are becoming too much like Gypsies.  There are far too many people leaving Armenia in proportion with population growth. I live in California, but I plan on living the latter part of my life in Armenia.

 

My question to all of you is: What are the prospects in the foreseeable future, and how do we get around some of the problems this generation is facing?

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Compared to whom and for what purpose? Take for example the Baltic States. Each of them has population less than Armenia, but their standard of living is at least 3 times higher. Yes, I know there is no blockade and they have slightly better geopolitical situation. But take also under consideration that their neighborhood except to the north is not very welcoming. Russians still have 'special' feelings (it is vice-verse) towards Baltic nations. Lithuania has some petrol, Latvia some electronics and agriculture and Estonia has almost nothing but her standard of living is higher compared to Lithuania and Latvia.

 

All three Baltic states have had large Diasporas, primarily in USA which are almost 100% assimilated into American mainstream. Colorado for example has large Baltic Diaspora who are recognized only by their last names.

 

So, however minimal it maybe Armenia has some advantage of having some kind of Diaspora. That factor can slightly overcome not so favorable geopolitical situation of Armenia and still the facts remain put. Armenia has to do a lot of HOMEWORK!

[Zartonk]

it is happening to most of the Westenr European nations as well.

 

Just curious: Can you give some examples?

[arziv]

I don't understand why are Armenians or other ethnic groups so scared of disappearance. I mean at one point there were Urartu and Hayasa then in a way they went "extinct" and gave rise to new people called Armenians. At one point we have to die out and give rise to new nations, it's a cycle that's all! Our genetic make up will continue in the DNAs of people who would probably speak another language and practice a different religion, but at the end of the day we - the humanoids are all ONE irregardless of nationality.

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I have read and heard ludicrous comments about the humanoids being one, but this one takes the cake for unadulterated mendacity. If we die... we die ,period, we don't have to die at any point unless we choose to die. If we choose the road to oblivion we simply become an ingredient to give way to other blends,mixes and mashes, but Armenians would then have died out. Armenians would have ceased to exist. What comes in its place is something that I don't want to think or imagine because it would have absolutely nothing to do with what Armenians were. Present diabolical conditions in the grinder of races is a challenge for Armenians to remain steadfast and aware of who they are.

 

The fatalistic attitude of we "have to die at one point" does not seem to have infected the Jews, maybe that is why they go from strength to strength ( as they have done through centuries) whilst other races and nations wither and disappear. Don't Mix indiscriminately, and Armenia need not die