Arpa Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 (edited) Oghi. Ale. 'Araq. The last first. In the Arabic/Persian " 'araq" means "sweat/perspiration". Why? The Arabs introduced the concept of "alembic/al imbiq" to the western world. It is the basis of "distillation". Among many; http://www.wordsmith.org/words/alembic.html Once again the WA has it right. True to the origin of "oghi", be it Aleppo or Beirut, as opposed to Kiev or Moscow. Oghi is 'araq, not vodka. Turks call it "raki", may they drown in it. Or on the other hand, may they drink methyl (poison) instead of ethyl alcohol. As mentioned before, in the west Armenian "oghi" exclusively refers, as opposed to the eastern generic reference to "vodka", to that alcoholic beverage that is distilled from fermented grapes, flavored with anise(yanasun). "oghi" is seen in other languages as "ale/alus". Consider the Latin L to the Armenian "gh". It simply means "spirit" as in alcohol, another word from the Arabic "al qahl". Why did the Arabs name it "'araq", perspiration? Look at the proscess. It is distilled/perspired. Distillation of the beer yields whiskey that is aged in charred wooden barrels. Distillation of wine aged in charred wooden barrel yields cognac/brandy. Dsitillation of the potential wine, not aged in wooden barrels, but flavored with anise yields oghi, spirit, ale, alus. The fermentation may be from a variety of sugary substances, be it grapes, dates , figs, sugar cane(teqilla or rum) , or in our case (artsakh) from tut, mulberry. In the Arabic, as well as Persian "araq" has two uses, one as "perspiration" and the other as "vein". Does it it ring a bell? In the Armenian "aruak" means stream , i.e. a vein (of water). By Petros Durian; Inchu apshats es ljak(aruak)? Ou chen khaytar qo alyakq Mite alyvuyd mej antskav Geghuhi m@ nayetsav? Edited March 16, 2005 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 In the third line of the poem, you wrote ''hakarts''. Isn't it ''antsgav''? And why do you say ''Once again the WA has it right.''? Wasn't EA closer to krapar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Turks call it "raki", may they drown in it. Or on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud EXPAT Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 In the third line of the poem, you wrote ''hakarts''. Isn't it ''antsgav''? And why do you say ''Once again the WA has it right.''? Wasn't EA closer to krapar? style_images/master/snapback.png Does EU stand for Eastern Armenian? Western Armenian is closer to grabar/krapar than Eastern Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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