Siamanto Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 KERRY IS DETERMINED IN RECOGNIZING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE Azg/am 30 Oct 04 Even With the Cost of Losing an Ally In its coverage of the US elections, Azg Daily constantly wrote about America�~@~Y s Armenian and Turkish voters�~@~Y moods concerning the candidates. We have mentioned John Kerry�~@~Ys pro-Armenian activities in the Senate and concluded that this fact will keep Turkish voters out of polling for him. Yet, it seems that George W. Bush�~@~Ys Iraqi policy seems to Turkish voters more terrifying than senator Kerry�~@~Ys pro-Armenian stance and the possible acknowledgment of Armenian Genocide in case the latter takes the office. It seems that there is no unity among the American Turks as to future US president. Neither official Ankara seems to take anyone�~@~Ys side. Turkish Radical searches for answers in the October 27 issue: "Ankara is concerned that Americans will not leave Iraq and that Iran will possibly become a target if Bush remains in the White House. But Kerry speaks of withdrawing the American army from Iraq and does not threaten Iran. Therefore his candidacy is more preferable for Ankara". Turkish political observers think that for Ankara the results of the US elections are less important than the situation in the Middle East. They think Kerry wishes to withdraw from Iraq, and Turkey wants to see Iraq more or less stable otherwise, if the crises deepens, Turkey may interfere. Amidst all these calculations, American Turks and Ankara never leave out Kerry �~@~Ys determination to recognize the Armenian Genocide from their spotlight. While the American-Turkish Congress sent a letter to John Kerry signed by president Erjument Q?l?nchi demanding that he consider US interests and affirm Zaman�~@~Ys words that "he (Kerry) hasn�~@~Yt said anything for the Armenian genocide for the last 10 years", the Turkish embassy to the USA alongside with the Turkish-American Union met with some of Kerry�~@~Ys advisers, Madlen Albright, Richard Holbrook and Fillip Gordon, to tell how anxious they are about Kerry�~@~Ys genocide "trick". Turkish Miliet writes in October 28 issue that John Kerry did not respond to American-Turkish Congress�~@~Y letter and perhaps disappointed American Turks. Ankara�~@~Ys political circles, in their turn, are disappointed in Livingston Group, a lobbying organization that is supposed to defend Turkey�~@~Ys interests in Washington. October 28 issue of Zaman informs that the Livingston Group is run by Bob Livingston, former Republican leader in the Congress. This is an interesting detail but Livingston�~@~Ys explanation given to Zaman is even more interesting. He said: "I fear that the American Genocide policy will undergo serious changes if Kerry is elected. His undeniable statements over the issue are binding. Kerry, who is tremendously supporting the Armenian Cause, may perhaps think of breaking his promise, but I�~@~Ym nor sure he will do that". Zeyno Baran, director of International Security and Energy Programs of the Nixon Center, added to Livingston�~@~Ys words. To Miliet�~@~Ys question "whether it is possible that Kerry as a president will neglect his promise given the Armenians?" she answered: "We have different circumstances this time. Kerry differs from all previous candidates as he is a senator from Massachusetts. There is a rather powerful Armenian community there, and Kerry always supported Armenians. Thus, in case Kerry wins Turkey has to come to terms with the Armenian Genocide because initiatives for Armenian-Turkish dialogue unfortunately didn�~@~Yt bring any serious success. If Kerry is given the chance then Turkey perhaps will arrive at a common conclusion with the Armenians, or, as your prime minister says, the issue will be handed over to historians to study. Only Turkey�~@~Ys new approach will make it possible to suppress the formula adoption in April". Livingston�~@~Ys and Baran�~@~Ys clarifications evidence that Kerry�~@~Ys victory in the presidential run will put Turkey face to face with the affirmation of the Armenian Genocide acknowledgment formula. The only way for Turkey to avoid this is to secure the republican majority in the House of Representatives and in the Senate. In this case, the republican majority can obviously turn the formula down without consulting with the president. The Armenian Genocide is a powerful instrument of influence and Genocide acknowledgement will mean renouncing this instrument. By Hakob Chakrian --Boundary_(ID_/n4Aqe29/h4ctXXWLfd95w)-- http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg96126.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Kerry�~@~Ys advisers, Madlen Albright, Richard Holbrook and Fillip Gordon, Oh, all those wonderful names. May I remind you that you that it is those people that wrote to Denis Hasterd to stuff the resolution in congress. Kerry is deternmined, YAY, lets all go vote for him. sarcasm ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 KERRY IS DETERMINED IN RECOGNIZING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE $100$ he will not recogniz the ARmenian Genocide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 What about bush? Did he recognize Armenian genocide? Even though I would love for Kerry to recognize the genocide, this will not be the issue that I am focussing on in this election. I don't know if bush recognized the genocide or is planning to, doesn't matter to me in this election. If Armenian voters will refuse to vote for Kerry, strictly on that issue, I think that they will be making a big mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhara Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Two sides of the same coin. Screw them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunt Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 KERRY IS DETERMINED IN RECOGNIZING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE $100$ he will not recogniz the ARmenian Genocide style_images/master/snapback.png And you have yourself a bet my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 And you have yourself a bet my friend. style_images/master/snapback.png I like to be wrong lets see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 KERRY IS DETERMINED IN RECOGNIZING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 (edited) KERRY IS DETERMINED IN RECOGNIZING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE $100$ he will not recogniz the ARmenian Genocide style_images/master/snapback.png MosJan, you may or may not be right! The bottom line is that It is more likely that Kerry MAY do something that will either facilitate or initiate the process! It's all RELATIVE! It is a PROCESS! Also, I'd rather see someone from a state with a strong Armenian Community than from a state that did not already recognize the Armenian Genocide! See map below: http://www.streamload.com/NoExpire/ImageDe...geDelivery=True Edited November 2, 2004 by Siamanto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 MosJan, you may or may not be right! The bottom line is that It is more likely that Kerry MAY do something that will either facilitate or initiate the process! It's all RELATIVE! It is a PROCESS! Also, I'd rather see someone from a state with a strong Armenian Community than from a state that did not already recognize the Armenian Genocide! See map below: http://www.streamload.com/NoExpire/ImageDe...geDelivery=True style_images/master/snapback.png Simanto, it’s relative to our strength as a Nation, ROA in particular!, and common voice which is politically correct and understood thru out the world. I wouldn’t put much emphasis to what and…… who is the American president, after all didn’t history thought us in this regard? It’s about time we relay on COLLECTIVE approach and vision (let’s get one, its very easy) firstly making sure we have a home base in which the fight could be carried out from. Just think of Armenia (ROA) could unite and have one common voice nurtured with strong economy and army at her disposal…..just a grab away if we all come to our senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Simanto, it’s relative to our strength as a Nation, ROA in particular!, and common voice which is politically correct and understood thru out the world. I wouldn’t put much emphasis to what and…… who is the American president, after all didn’t history thought us in this regard? It’s about time we relay on COLLECTIVE approach and vision (let’s get one, its very easy) firstly making sure we have a home base in which the fight could be carried out from. Just think of Armenia (ROA) could unite and have one common voice nurtured with strong economy and army at her disposal…..just a grab away if we all come to our senses. style_images/master/snapback.png Of course, it depends on 1- The relative importance and International weight of Armenia 2- The Domestic weight of the Armenian-American Community 3- The degree of cohesiveness of the Armenian Diaspora 4- ... Still, I would rather see someone who MAY be a SLIGHTLY easier to deal with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 And you have yourself a bet my friend. style_images/master/snapback.png Shunt jan you can save $50 if you like to end the bet now kerry might just lossss the rase you can peypal or western union offer goood tilll 10.30 pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 (edited) It's a moot point now, isn't it? <_< Edited November 3, 2004 by vava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Shunth if i don't get my $100 i'm sending Azat to your place Azat jan get ready !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Shunth if i don't get my $100 i'm sending Azat to your place Azat jan get ready !!! style_images/master/snapback.png Movses kneres bayts es gumarnerits Mod-erin % che hasnum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 dra masin Azati het petqa xoseq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 bayst inch vata che, yerb mard ir havat@ / huys@ kortsnuma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Now that John Kerry is a mere senator he can do much good for the Armenian cause by joining the ranks of Frank Pallone and Knollenberg at the Armenian Caucus. At least, hopefully he can spell "Armenian" in contrast to those who would say; "Arm...what"?. Arm...adillo? or "Arma...rillo, TX ". I wish I was the president in spite of my blessedly amazing grace(ful) IGNORANCE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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