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LMAO And I probably would have deserved it.

Oh, and I must add, that at the end, I found a large twisted heap of metal that resembled a tank barrier (but it was made of bobby pins!) someone's gonna get it

:clap: I yanked, and I jerked, and then I yanked like there was no tomorrow. And I pulled the stubborn auger out of the trap. Ahhhh... finally! BTW - thanks guys for the tips!

LOL - He's pretty nasty, that Ogre... ;P

Edward, that was very nice - although, I'm sure I didn't catch all the nuances.

Very nice - thanks for sharing I see the semblace in feel between Isolation & the photo... Armat, I couldn't explain before, but I was quite moved by Isolation as well. That 'strange balance' I referred to earlier, I think it could be better described as serenity/melancholy - thanks Anileve for reminding me of my vocabulary

BTW nice to see you again Anileve,

Hey!! What's wrong with Football Jocks???? Actually Eve, thank you for your comments. You are right as usual, at least on the most part. Members are certainly free to choose the types of threads in which they participate. And by all means, we encourage people to show their diversity - that's why there are specific sections for Humour, and others for more serious issues like genocide discussion. The problems arise when people don't think/pay attention as to what they're posting, and where. It certainly IS important to share the space. Some of the comments we've received are that some people tend to bring their 'personalilty' everywhere - and this all at once, in essence, not sharing the space at all. Now, I'm not referring to a specific incident, just the general situation recently. I think though, on the whole, that we have an excellent group of people here - and that, like all societies, things evolve. Our job, as moderators, and as members, is to try and ensure that things evolve for the better. We all have a part to play, and we must play together (aside - and unfortunately, that isn't exactly a strong trait in Armenians.) Anyway that's all for my rant - please if anyone has any specific comments about anything, feel free to PM myself, or one of the other Mods...

I'll give it a try tonight when I get home - I'll let you know how it goes. BTW, i figure a plumber will first pull at it, and once it breaks ('cause I firgure that's what's gonna happen when you pull too hard) the plumber is going to cut the pipe. Not so bad in the end, if you cut after the wall tube - chances are it's caught somewhere on the other side of the trap - but that's a guess.

I haven't tried a lubricant yet - but will tonight. I figure by the lenth remaining, that it's stuck about 4' or 5' inside the drainpipe... I'm not sure if the lube will make it that far.

Ok - that sounds fine... BUT by the mention of a guide tube, it may be it's a 'closet auger' its referring to - mine doesn't have a guide tube... mind you, they all work about the same. I have tried the 'gently push and pull' part. I have tried the 'not-gentle-at-all push and pull' technique. I have a felling that I cranked the auger too much, and it has twisted into a knot. I think I may have to cut some pipes.

Stormy you're probably right - but just keep in mind the 'song' is performed by a punk band. (I offer this as an explanation) On the same site however there's at least one other animation that's well done, and to the point. I posted it HERE.

OK - I'm not much of a plubmer and don't know too much about plumbing problems.... but I'm pretty good with my hands and can usually figure stuff out... I was trying to unclog my bathroom sink drain. I plunged after blocking-off the other outlets on the system - the plunging usually works, but not this time. My building was built around the turn of the century, so the plumbing is a bit dodgy (and I definately CAN'T use chemicals...) so I went and purchased a small plumbers auger and went back at it. I have cleared the drain (water runs freely now) BUT I can't get my auger back out. It's stuck in the drain! Pissed me off.... So any of you do it yourselfers have a suggestion on how to get it out?

Angel, I hate to break it to you... but if the seat's down after a guy's been to the bathroom, well, the seat never went up.

Canadians

I'd just like to point out that those nice, friendly (& dumb/quasi unemployed) 'friends' have some pretty spanky apartments in manhatten... they must be doing something right

You're right Gurgen! I was thinking Steve Mcqueen 'cause of Bullitt and The Getaway. But yes, the original Italian job was Michael Caine. Good catch

I'l have you know that I have NEVER changed mine. But i think I will eventually... but it too, will have a decent shelf-life

A few years ago, I had purchased tickets for the Just for Laughs Gala here in Montreal. It's a major comedy festival that has, over the years, attracted many of the biggest names in Comedy - Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler, Jerry Seinfeld, etc... anyway, it was right after one of the first seasons of Frazier - which had grown immensely popular (and Friends too, i think) and the primary act at the Gala was to be Kelsey Grammar. He's actually quite a funny stand up comic - his act can be kind of rough/coarse and it ws during his drinking years, so I was looking forward to it (comics are always a little finnier when their lives are messed up). To make a long story short Mr. Frazier cancels out and leaves the festival struggling for a replacement... they must have been REALLY desparate, as the only guy they could find was none other than David Schwimmer (ROSS) - a man that had never done stand up comedy in his LIFE. IT WAS TERRIBLE. VERY UN-FUNNY - the most disappointing show I've ever seen. Even with some good acts, (Andrew Clark was there I believe) when the host sucks, everyone sucks. Anyway, a few evenings later, I was at another show (not a gala - a very small show) we got a couple of unannounced drop-ins.... Chris Rock - who's extremely funny stand-up... and even Gary Coleman made an appearance! Back to the topic - I concur that Friends is not a good show.

Thanks for the news HayTorontonian - welcome back

Checking into HF heh....

You're not missing anything Juggs.... don't sweat it...

See here: http://www.nfl.com/

Harut jan, I've never seen pomegranate flowers. Would you happen to have any pics? Especially in an Armenian, historical context. Thanks in advance if you do...

Bell, you were always a veteran Thanks for the picks BTW.