Well, cant expect much from American truck lovers - LOL. American cars are crap period.....the leading car mag here does an annual Performance Car of the Year thing. Dodge Viper got beaten by my Mazda 6 (which did very will incidently) - LOL. I would take the BMW anyday, or if I could this one would be better..... http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/firstdrive/2004/04.subaru.sti/04.subaru.sti.f34.500.jpg 4 right, over crest, tightens, into 3 left dont cut..............brrrrrrrrrrrrrr