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HITLER: WHO REMEMBERS ARMENIAN GENOCIDE? - So we might as well carry out the Holocaust! Turkey, which persistently and principally rejected the fact of Armenian Genocide in 20-th century and had the support of both Kaiser and Nazi Germany, had certainly played a serious role in the Jewish Holocaust. But what stance exactly did the Turkish authorities hold in those years? To find out about this, we refer to the article written by Melissa Radler in the Jerusalem’s official newspaper. The article is about the documentary film on Jewish history, which was shot in New York in February 2002. The author of the film, Michael Berenbaum, is an expert in Jewish Holocaust. In the documentary movie he puts forward facts showing what courageous steps Turkey made in order to save Turkish-Jews from the bloody hands of Nazis before and during the World War II. Naturally Turkey, which was a Muslim neutral state, would enjoy the praise and thanks of Jews for saving 20,000 Turkish and German Jews and helping them to find shelter in Palestine. The beginning of the film shows how the Turkish-Jews of France were saved. The dark part of the fact, though, makes one wonder how Turkish diplomats and clergymen managed to rescue all the Turkish-Jews and managed to transport them to a third country. Worth mentioning here is the fact that the Turks did not treat the Romanian-Jews with the same care- rejecting to take 760 people on the board of ‘SS Struma’ ship and take them to Turkey. The ship, though, was attacked and blown to pieces by Russian submarine, and only one passenger survived. Columnist Melissa Radler finds that the shortcoming of the film is the part when the author notes about the alleged genocide of 1,5 million Armenians, referring to which Hitler stated that nobody would respond to Jewish Holocaust, as a proof wondering: ‘Who remembers about the Armenian genocide now?’ So the Turks were interested especially in saving the Turkish-Jews of France. The film says that when French authorities decided to introduce a distinguishing mark (a yellow star) which the Jews should wear on their clothes in France, and started the confiscation of Jewish property, Turkish diplomats raised a loud protest. They helped the Turkish-Jews to securely pass to Turkey. Turkish president Kemal Ataturk accepts 200 German and other foreign intellectuals in 1933, provides them with shelter and job, thus using their knowledge and skills. Among those intellectuals was the architect of present day Turkey’s presidential palace, parliament, opera, ballet and defense ministry’s buildings. Thanks to these intellectuals the University of Istanbul became the best foreign German university- outside of Germany. By getting acquainted with the film via the article of Jewish columnist, it becomes clear that the philanthropy of Turkey is expressed only in rescuing Turkish and German Jews. It is clear that Turkish diplomats had close ties with Nazis in those years, otherwise Turkish authorities would not be able to transport Jews under the strict regime that Nazi Germany had. In the long run, if Kaiser Germany helped Ottoman Turkey to commit the Armenian Genocide, the Nazi Germany would as well help its ally Turkey to take 20,000 Turkish-Jews to the country and win the heart of Israel. Whereas Turkey is still running from the responsibility of recognizing the Armenian Genocide… By Rouzan Poghosian © Copyright AZG [ March 27, 2002, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: MosJan ]

TWO NEW HOTELS IN YEREVAN Two hotels- Congress and Ararat, were put into operation at the beginning of this year in Yerevan. As the head of Armenian trade and economic development ministry’s tourism department Arthur Zakarian said, several more hotels and bed and breakfast inns will open in different regions of the republic, including Tsakhkadzor and Sevan. According to Zakarian, by opening Congress and Ararat hotels the number of hotel beds in the country increased by 70. We would like to remind our readers that Armenia received hotels and bed and breakfast inns from the Soviet times with total beds of 30,000. But at present functioning hotels in the provinces of Armenia have about 3000 beds, and there are overall 2500 beds in the hotels of Yerevan. © Copyright AZG

CALIFORNIAN TRADE-ECONOMIC REPRESENTATION TO OPEN IN YEREVAN 25.03.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Californian trade-economic representation will open in Yerevan in the near future. Senator Jack Scotin representing the state confirmed the information today at the meeting with Minister of territorial governance and coordination of infrastructures' activity Hovik Abrahamian. The interlocutors exchanged opinions concerning the exact spheres, in which the Armenian-Californian cooperation would be most successful. In the Minister's opinion, partnership relations should first of all be developed in such branches as agriculture, tourism, and high technologies. Let us note that some one million citizens of Armenian origin reside at present in California. The influential Armenian community of California is expected to bridge Armenia with the Californian business world. Let us remind that memorandum of mutual understanding, which laid the foundations for developing comprehensive trade-economic relations, was signed by California and Armenia November 2001 in Yerevan. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER STATED IT WAS NECESSARY TO RESTORE RAILWAY COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ARMENIA AND AZERBAIJAN 25.03.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Deputy Foreign Ministry of Russia, personal representative of President Putin at the negotiations on the status of the Caspian Viktor Kalyuzhniy stated it was necessary to restore the railway communication between Armenia and Azerbaijan. According to the information of "Mediamax" agency, Kalyuzhniy made the statement while appearing in Cambridge at "Caspian Sea: new epoch policy" conference. Russia will make all efforts to attain Artsax conflict settlement. But we consider that today such "small steps" as restoration of the railway communication would contribute to the negotiation process under the conditions when the parties are not ready to a comprehensive peace agreement yet," – deputy head of the Russian foreign department stated.

has anyone used solar power ? haw do you setup a system ? haw long will it work or haw good is it. ? i have a property in Colorado, no way i can get a power Co to get me power, so other then Gas-Generators i can only use solar power, it seems that it should work. i can use most any of my Ell units on 12V - instead of 110v. i have found a system on Ebay - >> it looks ok http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2011228645 The CE Indoor Custom Lighting Solar Power Kit with Panel Have you ever thought about how nice it would be to have lighting at that remote cabin or when the power went off? Well think no more. Now you can have a system for less than $500.00 which will give you all you need for emergency lighting when the power goes out. You will get: One: Solar panel. One: Charge Controller unit. One: Storage Battery (with Controller). Six: Lighting Fixtures with on/off switches. Six: Low Energy Use 6VDC Replaceable Lights Over 160 feet of power cable with common connectors http://rod.misproductions.com/newstore/RemoteLoadImage/2222.jpg [ March 24, 2002, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ]

Of Topic Arpa is Hovsep Emin the same Armenia who left all of his wealth to United Armenia ??? I remember yeas a go some one was saying that an Armenian in India has left all of his wealth to United Armenia, soon after his death many other Armenians of India did the same and Indian government promos them that this money will be gave to Free-independent-Armenia. most of the $$$ was collected by CCCP - all of the movies and Indian souvenirs in Armenia that we war getting from India was only a payback from Indian government - for the money left by Armenians.

Ruben Matevosyan Kartsum em bavakan lav Hamerg klini, Hamerg@ iysor e yerekoyan it's at Glendale High School Auditorium. [ March 25, 2002, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: MosJan ]

PAVEL BORODIN CALLS ARMENIA TO JOIN RUSSIA-BELARUS UNION MARCH 23. State Secretary of the Russia-Belarus Union Pavel Borodin called Armenians to join the Russia-Belarus Union. "You have a chance to be alphabetically the first in the tripartite union with Russia and Belarus," Borodin said, speaking at the 2nd congress of the Union of Armenians of Russia in Moscow. Despite the fact that our countries became independent, we feel ourselves citizens of one country, Borodin said. He stressed that about 700,000 Armenians have moved to Russian from Armenia during the last seven years.

AREXIMBANK FINANCES RESTORATION OF MONUMENT TO RUSSIAN SOLDIERS MARCH 23.The Areximbank finances restoration of the monument to Russian soldiers, erected in 1833 at the town Echmiadzin in commemoration of victors of Oshakan battle. As the general director of the Areximbank Armen Khandkarian informed ARMINFO, the opening of this unique building will take place this summer. According to him, $2,000 have been wasted for restoration of the monument, and 1,000 more dollars will be spent to planting trees and shrubs in the surrounding territory. Areximbank has taken the monument of Russian soldiers under its wing, as being a connecting link between Russia and Armenia, attaches great importance to historical and cultural relations between both countries, Khandkarian thinks. It should be noted that Echmiadzin's monastery was liberated from the blockade of the Persian army on Aug 17, 1827 by Sevastopol and Crimea regiments. The Persian army intended to move to Tiflis (Tbilisi) and Artsax. By the initiative of the Echmiadzin clergy an obelisk was placed in the place of battle in commemoration of Russian soldiers, and later a monument was erected.

MASSACRE OF ARMENIANS IN SHUSHI IN 1920 IS NOTHING BUT GENOCIDE MARCH 23.The massacre of Armenians in Shushi in 1920 is nothing but a genocide, Chairman of the parliamentary Commission for Foreign Relations of Artsax, Vahram Atanesyan, said at a press-conference today. He said the massacre was perpetrated by Azerbaijan with the support of the Turkish expeditionary corps. Atanesyan stressed that Artsax has never been a part of Azerbaijan and was de facto independent at that moment, its status being recognized by Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan. However, availing themselves of the international community's delaying the acknowledgement of the independent Artsax Republic (the League of Nations declared it a disputed territory, planning to consider its status at a conference in Paris, which never took place), the Azeri-Turkish bandits stifled Artsax's government and massacred its population. Atanesyan said Mar 23 1920 was the climax of the anti-Armenian campaign of 1918-1920 - hundreds of Shushi-Armenians were killed and deported. Atanesyan said the Artsax side has ample evidence of the massacres of Armenians perpetrated in Baku, Shushi and other towns of the region in 1918-1920. He said this evidence must be made known to the wide public. Atanesyan said during the Soviet times Azerbaijan continued the "white genocide" of Armenian in Shushi consistently forcing out the 40,000 Armenians living in Shushi throughout that period. As a result there was no single Armenian left in that town in 1988. Atanesyan said the Artsax parliament must adopt a status of repressed for the Armenians who suffered from the anti-Armenian campaigns by the Azeri authorities in 1988-1992. He said necessary documents are being gathered. Chairman of the parliamentary Financial and Budgetary Commission of Artsax Mayor Danielyan, representing Shushi in parliament, said his commission was going to raise the issue for recognizing Mar 23 as the Day of the Massacre of Armenians in Shushi.

friend of mind just parched a property in the Gorman-fraserPark, 70 mils north of LA, i just don't have a time to do scouting in 4 places at the same time, so decide to get a trail cam for now. let see if I can get some pics of the action, you never know what that camera might "see". i have left a camera in Colorado for a whole year, the batteries died after 5 months but I have got 1200 nice piks, even tough low resolution but still it was nice to see what gos on when your not there The snow - The spring - haw the nature changes, and most of all the 5X7 Freek buck. us for the kid, I have madup my mind i will get him a Hunting game for his X-Box, some kids will never learn, or by the time they learn it will be to lath, we have been trying way to hard to teach him, will it's not working, we might tray a different approach next time.

US CALLS UPON ARMENIA AND AZERBAIJAN TO "FINISH WORK STARTED IN PARIS AND KEY WEST" /PanARMENIAN.Net/ USA calls upon Armenia and Azerbaijan to finish the work started in Paris and Key West. "Mediamax" agency reports US Ambassador to OSCE Stephan Minikes stated it appearing at the conference of the organization Permanent Council. "We call upon Presidents Kocharian and Aliyev to do their best to achieve comprehensive solution of the Artsax problem on the basis of mutual security and compromises," – the US diplomat said. "Armenia and Azerbaijan will soon begin preparing to presidential elections 2003 and possible transfer of authority. This circumstance dictates the necessity of fast political settlement of the Artsax problem," – US Ambassador to OSCE stated. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

ARMENIA EX-FOREIGN MINISTER TO DELIVER LECTURE DEDICATED TO 1915 ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AT AUSTRALIAN INSTITUTE OF HOLOCAUST /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The head of Armenian center of strategic studies, ex-foreign minister of Armenia Raffi Hovannisian has accepted the invitation of Australian institute of Holocaust and studies on genocide to deliver a lecture dedicated to 87-th anniversary of the Armenian genocide in Ottoman Turkey. As the press service of the Armenian National Committee of America reported, in Australia April 24 Raffi Hovannisian will participate in the events organized on the occasion of the 87-th anniversary of Armenian genocide. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

AZERI DEFENSE MINISTER MADE ANOTHER THREAT CONCERNING ARMENIA /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Azerbaijani defense minister Safar Abiyev has made the next threat concerning Armenia. As "Mediamax" reports, while answering the questions of journalists, he stated, in case of need, Azerbaijani troops "can get to and even get over Yerevan". Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

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have you ever used TrailCam's ?

Ehh I don’t know – the father likes to see his kid Hunting – the kid likes to play  can’t ever mix this two.

VESTS - CLOTHING - DECOYS - MOUTH CALLS MAn Way to much for me i'm not good at turky hunting, i have trayd thsi 2 times no good #1 i was not priperd for it #2 i did not know what i was geting my self in to #3 i was not good at calls #4 ~~~~~~~~~ one of this days if I find some one good at turkey hunting I might gave one more tray the only place I know in S-CA is king city - and I do not like to hunt in this place. >> just copy the link and past it in IE it will work  nice to se that your introducing you kid to hunting. One more way to stay close to you kid and do staff together , one of my friends brings his kid and his dog to hunting,  all of us are on lookout for his kid  his running after his dog  it took him good 3 years to teach his dog be a hunting companion, war still teaching his kid to only shut when needed,  for some time I was thinking of getting a fool bad armor, the kid would shut anything that was moving

What makes Hamshna-Zurna so much different then the others – the loud sound – it’s the loudest zurna - + Tuning + Size + Fingering chart, other then that it’s the same concept us most of the zurns in the world. Us for the origins of this instrument - no one can say who was the inventor – it’s used all around the world for long time, everyone has changed / modified it to it’s use, and now we have Turkish zurns – Rumanian zurns – Bulgarian zurns – each and every one is similar – but each and every one has different sound. Armenian zurna has been in our coulter for long time 2800-3200 years, it was recorded and defined by Komitas in bingeing of 1900s, in 1950s it was modified by Karlen Matevosyan (MKS) he has modified the sound – tuning – fingering – his zurns sound even louder then some larger zornas made by the others, it is a fane tuned instrument. MOvses

Thank you for bring up this subject of Homshentsik I my self – I’m interested in their Music and musical instruments. I have been collecting musical instruments for some time now, and one of the amazing thinks is haw they have preserved their instruments . One of my last findings was a Hamshna-Zurna that was made in 1890s. I would love to learn more about this amazing people, once again thank you for bring up this subject and for teh link. MOvses

Don’t blow thinks out of their proportions - Vegetarians are nothing new to Armenians, I my self know at list 2 dozen vegetarians in Armenia, it’s not something new to Armenians, I also have a book that is being translated to English, it was printed in 1970s in Armenia. Yes some of the recopies are “barrowed” from others but most of thim are traditional Armenian dishes. We do have many different dishes that are truly vegetarian, some are forgotten, altered, new and different ingredients have been added, the bottom line is you can still have spinach, Aveluk, Shush, Sibex, it’s only ridicules to say that your not Armenian if you do not eat meet.

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STEPANAKERT BEWILDERED BY OFFICIAL BAKU'S ATTEMPTS TO FALSIFY MODERN HISTORY 20.03.2002 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Today Nagorno Artsax Republic Foreign Ministry has expressed bewilderment concerning Azerbaijan's striving for falsification of the modern history. Today it was reported to "Mediamax" agency by NKR Foreign Ministry press service while commenting on the recent statement of the head of Azeri Ministry of Foreign Affairs Vilayat Guliyev that "Baku will never accept the representatives of the so-called NKR as a party of negotiations." The service supposes Guliyev's statements are conditioned by the fact that "he never participated either in bilateral negotiations between Azerbaijan and Nagorno Artsax, or negotiations under the aegis of OSCE Minsk Group held within 1992-1997, where NKR delegation took part." The press service reminds that beginning with 1993 the political and military leadership of Azerbaijan has repeatedly addressed letters to NKR leadership, expressing readiness to organize a bilateral meeting of NKR and Azerbaijan heads. NKR foreign department has proper documents signed by high rank leaders of Azerbaijan, including the acting President and the Minister of Defense of the Azerbaijani Republic. The Azeri colleagues should have also consulted the documents passed at the Budapest summit and Bishkek Resolution of 1994, ratified by the signatures of the Speakers of Azeri, Armenian and Nagorno Artsax Parliaments, NKR Foreign Ministry press office noted. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

Cool staf but what can i use this for ???