Sip

My favorite is #8! The only problem I have in #13. So far in my life, the "best things" haven't just happened. I have had to try very hard and put in quite a bit of effort to get the "best things". But maybe my case is an exception.

So when's the supra thing happening? By the way, do you guys have a speed limit down-unda? How are the driving laws there? Any places to have some fun with the Supra?

http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/roflmao.gif Oh man! I really needed that... that's one of the FUNNIEST things I have read in a while. Scarry aint it? I'm sure our "intelligent systems" are going to go through a maturing period (and even maybe adolescence) before they become useful.

Hmmmm ... that man "out of clay" does sound biblical. The "fish from stone" also sounds like something Jesus could do. So I guess those lines bring "Armenians" up to the level of God and Jesus in some sense. Boy, now I know there is NO way I am Armenian

Well, although I may be able to build "monestaries out of rock" and learn to become "student of the beautiful", I really don't think I can "make fish out of stone" and I certainly can't "make man out of clay" ... so once again I am starting to doubt that I am Armenian. In addition to sending mixed messages (actually, I think the message is quite clear despite the fact that he keeps repeating "We do not put ourselves above anyone", it's obvious to me that the whole thing is saying quite the opposite) ... anyway ... I think the conclusion is quite interesting: quote:Because it is better to be few in life, then to control life by being manyBecause it is better rather to be few, then to be masters by being many ... We are, We shall be, and become many. and therefore become life controlling masters? Thoth, I agree ... that is ONE CONFUSING POEM!!! [ November 27, 2002, 12:19 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

Anyone care to explain what's all the deal about the getting on one knee, pulling out a ring, and asking "THE QUESTION"? Why? What's that all about? Isn't marriage a very serious step in life ... a serious BOND between two PEOPLE? Thus, shouldn't it be discussed to great detail and analyzed to unbelievable extents before it's agreed to? So what's the deal with the "movie" verion, getting on one knee and "popping" the question? Have you heard women use the term "he popped the question"? Isn't that just a bit disturbing to you? What's the deal with the "Holywood" portrayal of what I call the "marriage proposal ceremony" and how common is it in real life? What about among Armenians? Do you think it should be done that way?

quote:Originally posted by Harut:...with dictionary in one hand and a book about how to have sex with non-Armanian in the other. Harut es incher es asum? Do non-Armenians do it differently than Armenians? Please enlighten me!!!

quote:Originally posted by Azat:Thoth and Sip, I am sorry you guys did not like the poem by Sevak.... Actually, I like that poem a LOT! It's very nicely written. I just don't think it is a good example of defining what an Armenian is! I think it's a great example of how hard-core "bleeding heart" Armenians talk and think about "Armenianness". However, I necessarily don't share Sevag's feelings, although I think it's an awesome poem (even in English) and I know what he is trying to say. My whole point above was that we should recognize that Sevag is putting Armenians WAAAY above everyone else with that poem even though he keeps saying he is not. [ November 27, 2002, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

quote:Originally posted by THOTH:If you think this then I think you miss the main point of the movie. The actions of jessup, Kendrick & those who murdered Santiago ( who had a medial conditon etc) - were wrong (very wrong) - pure & simple...etc Jessep: You ever served in an infantry unit son?Kaffee: No Sir. Jessep: You ever served in a forward area unit? Kaffee: No Sir. Jessep: You ever put your life in another man's hands, and in return, asked him to put his life in yours? Kaffee: No Sir. Jessep: We follow orders, we follow orders or people die, it's that simple. Are we clear? Kaffee: Yes, Sir. Jessep: Are we clear?! Kaffee: Crystal. I'm not so sure Thoth. I actually think Jessup's actions may have saved lives (to borrow his own words) ... our laws and common sense don't just directly apply to their situtation. They have to "follow orders or people die". Of course no one intended to kill Santiago, just to teach him a lesson (Code Red). Anyway, I see what you are saying but I don't think I agree. I don't think the good and bad guys are that well defined in that story. In any case, I'm sure you'd agree that there are instances in real life where each individual in a group can make the seemingly correct decision at the time, while the outcome is just horribly wrong. quote:Originally posted by THOTH:One issue is this idea that grandparents & even in some case children) cannot be exposed to certain language or certain sexual activities. Sex is a good thing - am i wrong here? Sure kids may not understand or such - and you curt away etc. But grandparents? It's not that grandparents cannot or should not be exposed to sex or foul language ... it's just that I get this chill down to the bone every time it does happen! I really can't explain it ... it just seems so wrong. Yah, it must be the "pure Armenian" genes talking here. Who knew ... seems like I do have them. As far as children, I wouldn't really know since I don't have any. Since I won't have children any time soon, fortunately I don't have to worry about that one! But again, somewhere from deep down inside something is telling me "sex is bad" when children are around. [ November 27, 2002, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: Sip ]

quote:Originally posted by QRISTINE:YOur not young enough to know everything so stay on your own bussiness. It is fine to give opinions on the topics but not in personal decidion making Fair enough! So I'll be a little serious for a change. I think Harut has a good point and I don't think he was telling you what to do. Of course NO one should tell you what to do. I think Harut was saying that he doesn't think it's possible (or easy) staying pure Armenian outside of Armenia. I have to say, I agree with him a lot on this. Just by the fact that you live in a different country, means you have to abide by their rules ... otherwise, they'll either kick you out or put you in prision. Since not every country has the same rules and regulations as Armenia, you are FORCED to change at least just a bit. Therefore, I really don't think it's possible to stay "pure" Armenian outside of Armenia. HOWEVER, I think you were probably saying more about staying pure in "thought" or in "hearth" or something like that ... well, those all sound great when someone says it, but I don't know how meaningful they are. So I guess the question at hand is, if you think someone can stay pure Armenian outside of Armenia, why or how you think that can be done? On a side note, what does it even mean to be "pure Armenian"?

Tata doesn't get you to jump up and dance, NOTHING will! Don't get me wrong, I am definitely no where near a hyebruin-caliber TATA fan, but I think when it comes to party "Armenian" style, TATA is probably as good as it gets.

Here's the freaky part ... suppose they got married at 9 ... suppose they waited and had kids around 12. It would mean, that an 80-year old woman could actually be the GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER of someone Oh and even more strange would be that a 100-year old woman could have more than 1000 descendents alive! Then they would HAVE to celebrate on average around 3 birthdays a day everyday of the year!!! [ November 26, 2002, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

quote:Originally posted by QRISTINE:... EVEN very famous Armenian writer Hovanes Tumanian has a banastextsution conserning to this topic and I can tell some of the lines ZUR ER MARON DUREKAN NOR ER 9 TAREKAN NSHANETSIN MAROIN TVIN CHOBAN KAROYIN. ... Wow! Thanks for the Toomanian quote. This is a very difficult concept for me to grasp but I am starting to find out it was common place among many cultures. Amazing how society changes in like a 100 years ... I wonder what things will look like 100 years from now.

quote:Originally posted by hyebruin:... (jaanaaaaaa!)aahhhh...(yes! I am barsgahye eeeeeeeeeeh, yah, I think we could have guessed About eminem, I like him. I think he is very talented ... and that is quite rare in case of rappers. I think he is one of the very few that the words to his "raps" make sense to me. One of my most favorites of course is stan ... I am not a HUGE eminem fan, but I think he definitely deserves all the attention that he is getting. The other thing I like about him, is that he is able to play the media to get maximal exposure for himself. I say, more power to him. As far as his music videos, I absolutely LOVE them! Especially the one where Elvis takes a dump in the toilet and then the camera zooms on it and it's Eminem himself ("... it's so empty without me") But I have to say, "STAN" was quite an extraordinary piece of work compared to the rest of his songs. But I think even a single creation as good as that song will make me think VERY highly of the creator!

quote:Originally posted by Harut:.. i'm, for instance, always mistaken for persian... http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/hf/harut2.jpg Persian? Harut aveli shut Hendiki es namnum es nkarum! Bayts ed klor achkerov, yerevi xharnurd es im kartsikov.

Damn Harut ... What did you do to me!

Well, since with arranged marriages there is a possibility of this: http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/hf/ugly.jpg I think I'll take my chance with love marriages. But then on second thought, maybe I'll go with "rich" marriages and find a woman that can buy me several computers and cars and I wouldn't have to work! That would be the best.

It says "Work suck. I am going to Moab" ... I put that on last May when I was heading out to Moab Utah ... Moab is basically THE PLACE to go for off-roaders in the north American continent. You probably already saw the Lion's Back pictures (the big huge rock that just goes straight up!!!!) ... that's probably one of the most famous land marks there.

Oh, forgot to say that you can click on the pictures for the larger, better quality versions.

http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/az02/az1_tn.jpg http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/az02/az2_tn.jpg http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/az02/az3_tn.jpg http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/az02/az4_tn.jpg http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/az02/az5_tn.jpg Just a few of the nicer shots from my last trip to Arizona that I thought some of you may enjoy. The scenery was just awesome!!! It was a total blast and fortunately, we didn't have any major damage, breakage, or any serious problems. This area is around 50 miles east of Phoenix.

Actually, that's exactly where I got it from!!!! By the way, for those who are wondering, Azat is referring to "Gavin"'s picture ... he happens to look a LOT like what I should look like By the way, that Nansee is really something, isn't she? [ November 25, 2002, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

quote:Originally posted by MJ:... look for his unusual features: balls hanging from under his chin. Hmmmm ... is it just my dirty mind that is under the influence of cheesy late-night cable-TV movies or does that statement really paint a very disturbing picture? By the way, what gatekeeping? what function? Did I miss something? I saw my name mentioned a couple of times but I didn't understand the context. What worries me, is that it seemed to be in the same context as Harut and Hagarag

THOTH, I owe you BIG time for the you know what! Even when I kick your ass, which I will, I will be humble enough to say that the self-less "hint" you provided in improving my RB issue was a BIG one But still, in addition to Portis, my Rickey Williams gamble has paid-off greatly this year!!! Glad I didn't just rely on Bettis.

quote:Originally posted by QRISTINE:... And first of all I dont need your opinion about staying or going to Armenia. http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/roflmao.gif YAH, Harut! Why the hell don't you keep your opinions to yourself in a "public" discussion board