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quote:Originally posted by Sasun:Yes, and more than that. God is in each of us (including THOTH ). When we suffer He also suffers. He experiences whatever we experience. We suffer not because God is cruel, but because it is part of the big game. Why? Because of His mysterious wisdom. I think I know what you mean ... like when someone else gets kicked in the nuts and you feel his pain shooting right through your entire body ... so what you are saying, is that that is actually God in me? I think I understand.

Movses, xeghj Arminein her es vaxtsnum?

Crazy Lion's Back Video HERE This is the one where that full size blazer came crashing all the way down a couple of years ago. the QuickTime versions worked for me. If you can't get it, let me know since I downloaded it.

quote:Originally posted by Sasun: quote: If anyone could prove to me that Christ is outside the truth, and if the truth really did exclude Christ, I should prefer to stay with Christ and not the truth This is so fascinating and inspiring !!!Yes, but IF that should happen, I should prefer to refer to him as the dumb ass.

Ed degh, mi kani ankam Miller Jeep Trailen enk gnatsel ... nayev Lockwood sari yev Yellow Jacketi modere (frazier parki modits) ... shat lav degher en. Yete lav deger gides ed maserum, anpayman asa ... especially 4x4ingi hamar Miller Jeep Trail e lsel eink vor shat djvar e. Bayts vor gnatsink, edkan el djvar chi. Kamats kamats hangist hsum es. Miyak 2 degh kan vor mi kitch djvaranum e ... "kabob hill" yev verjum "wall". Kabob hille koghkits degh uni bypass anelu hamar. Wallen el bayts enkan djvar chi yete dzax koghmits bartsranas. Yes antsial ankam ach koghmits brodzi bartsranal, yev mod er driveshaftes jardei

Yah! Hungry Valley.

quote:Originally posted by vava: besides, i never touch the stuff! Hmmmm ... I was thinking that maybe I should. The premise of that whole "warning" doesn't sound too bad ... except for that last relationship part ... ok, add "beer" to my growing list of things to do.

Anyone know what's up with these rumors going around of the multiple murders in Glendale? Last I heard was that the owner of Zankou chicken killed some people (wife ?) and then himself.

quote:Originally posted by Harut:i bet you would be in major dept if there were no all-you-can-eat restourant in this world. Actually, I think that's probably what hell is like. There was this reallly good place right next to our house that my brother and I used to go to. They went out of business. Then there was this other one that was a few blocks away. They also went out of business. In this new one, I always leave like 25% tip, just to make sure. I'd hate to lose them (LA Buffet right by Northridge Mall). So Bruin, how did YOU get in?

Real men ARE like toilets ... strong, dependable, never let you down, low maintenance, will take all kinds of shit from people and not complain, and you jiggle their handle and ... ah, never mind Jug, thanks for the tip! My impression for the day? Damn, there is soooo much going on in the world, sooo many people, doing soooo many different things at the same time. I am just dumbfounded by the sheer complexity of things going on around me. I was pondering this as I was driving to an all-you-can-eat Chineese place around here. So much traffic (busy street traffic) and so many obstacles between me and that place. But it's been a good day.

WOW !!!! Bruin, your poetry brought a tear to my eye. Soooo beautiful. So touching. Unfortunately, I gotta run to a meeting now but just wanted to say WOW.

If by "lady" you mean "computer" and by man you mean "geek" then I totally agree with you

quote:Originally posted by axel:Sip, the term "agnostic" is better suited to describe your position. Looked this one up too since I had heard the term but never really knew what it meant. It says: "somebody denying God’s existence is provable: somebody who believes that it is impossible to know whether or not God exists" ... I can't imagine someone NOT being agnostic (according to that definition)? Even the super-religeous people don't seem to claim they can prove God exists (as far as I know) ... they mostly seem to "feel" his presence and somehow "know" this or that ... or they "look around and see all the evidence of his greatness". But thanks! I learned so many cool new words in this thread that I can now start throwing around as if I know what I'm talking about

quote:Originally posted by Azat:Sip, Are you interested in getting married to Hef? There is a long line of women and few men(I guess) who are ahead of you. ROFLMAO! Small price to pay (marriage) to get to hang out in the "mansion" all the time, don't you think? On second thought, maybe Hef IS God?

If "God" had listened to my prayers, my lastname would be "Hefner" by now. [ January 13, 2003, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

Sasun, I think we are in sync I understand your position now and I think it is a valid one. I also like your different "atheists" listing. To clarify my position, here's a #9 (which I fit in) 9) God being the embodiment of all that is good (and only good) sounds too made up to be true. However, although I do not believe in that God, I do not reject the possibility of it's existance.

quote:Originally posted by Sasun:THOTH, I don't want to repeat what Axel said, but I will clarify: if you have no feeling of love, compassion, hope, respect, appreciattion, etc., if you do not accept morality in your life in any way, if you do not care about other people, if you do not want justice, if you... then you are an Atheist. On second thought, I may have misunderstood. I think you are saying not having all those implies being an Atheist. That may be .. I am not sure. But are you also saying that being an Atheist implies the other stuff (lacking that entire list)? Because that is the direction I disagree with you not the way you have phrased it in that sentence. [ January 13, 2003, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

quote:Originally posted by Sasun:THOTH, I don't want to repeat what Axel said, but I will clarify: if you have no feeling of love, compassion, hope, respect, appreciattion, etc., if you do not accept morality in your life in any way, if you do not care about other people, if you do not want justice, if you... then you are an Atheist. Dear Sasun, no one seems to be trying to prove or disprove anything. I am just trying to understand which "dictionary" you and axel seem to be using. My dictionary, once again, says: quote:a·the·ist [áythiist] (plural a·the·ists) noun unbeliever in God or deities: somebody who does not believe in God or deities Encarta® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1999,2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc. I completely fail to see how you make the jump from that definition all the way to lacking love, hope, respect, appreciation, compassion, hope, etc etc etc. I am with Thoth on this. I do NOT believe in any supernatural God. Certainly nothing as big as you seem to claim. However, I LOVEmy computer. I respect Thoth. I appreciate an all-you-can-eat buffet more than you can imagine, and I hope I make my point clear Cheers!

I personally like to go and spend my day HERE.

Sorry I'm about to pass out but I figured I'd get a quick post in before my eyes give up on me for today quote:Originally posted by Axel: A pure atheist doesn' believe in Ethics, in Beauty, in any ideal whatsoever and that is why, pure atheism can be equated with theophobia I think a "belief" can also be arrived at using logic and thought. So we have a fundamental difference in our definition of Atheist. I don't equate "not believing in God" with "not having ethics" and "not believing in beauty". quote:Originally posted by Axel:If you don't believe in absolutes then there is no Good nor Evil (=> there is no sin). I disagree. Maybe you need absolutes to have "good" and "evil" but you certainly don't need absolutes for having "better" and "worse". Are you saying an atheist can't distinguish between "better" and "worse"? Because I think that's really all you need to be "moral" in life. I can certainly imagine a "moral" atheist The only requirement in my opinion, is having an ability to "rank" different things according to relative "good/evil"-ness (no need for ANY absolute).

Gamavor, you rock! Thanks for the info. Harut, you seem to be a non-bliever (at least in me)? hehehehehe ...

I found my answer regarding the 6th of jan and 25th of dec christmases but what a serb friend and I can't figure out is why he has it on the 7th while we do it on the 6th. Seems like most orthodoxes do it on the 7th and we Armenians do it on the 6th. Anyone know why the 1-day discrepancy?

Not sure if you've heard this saying before but I got a good chuckle out of it the first time I heard it (it was from a girl but I guess it works equally well the other way around). She said: "My mom always told me good men are like parking spaces in a crowded mall. All the good ones are taken, and the available ones are all marked disabled". http://zr2.cs.ucla.edu/Sip/zr2/roflmao.gif --- Disclaimer: To all those with real disabilities out there, I feel your pain but I did laugh when she said that. I know, I am ashamed of it too. [ January 12, 2003, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: Sip ]

quote:Originally posted by axel:Nothing is as strong as Faith. Faith is the basis of Life and creation, spirit is the root of culture. How so? If faith is so strong, how come so many are "unfaithful" in the world? So I strongly disagree with the first part of your statement. As far as mainstream religions, I think their existance is mainly due to "fear". Yes, FEAR is a strong force. Fear of the unknown, fear of being judged, fear of future pains is much much stronger than any faith. I'd say greed is even stronger than faith. Actually, a lot of things are stronger than faith. Faith is easily broken. Very easily. Unless, there is a force keeping it in place, such as fear , or the promise of something good in return for the "faith".