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Yes we also know that hamid was nicknamed (ermeni)"bedros/petros" because he was so ugly and malformed that only fits the description of an "ermeni". Yet, there still are those naive imbeciles among us who fall for it and try and find if hamid's mother was in fact an Armenian "whore" at the sultan's harem. What kind of "Armenian whore/orosbi/kaltakh/sharmoutah, բոզ պոռնիկ" was davutoghlu's mother? http://www.imprescriptible.fr/photographies/hamid/hamid-cari.jpg http://books.google.com/books?id=ZnUezAH6ujEC&pg=PA579&lpg=PA579&dq=kinross+ottoman+centuries+bedros&source=bl&ots=PRN-0tM-ea&sig=J6lN5Qto2G4bE3eQHV1drQrLaOY&hl=en&ei=iODFS9jnC4bG8wTym8AP&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

DOGGY BONE ԿՐԾՈՆ http://images.clipartof.com/small/6701-Brown-Dog-Mascot-Cartoon-Character-Holding-A-Big-Doggy-Bone-Treat-Clipart-Picture.jpg Let sleeping dogs “lie”. ՔՆԱԾ ՇԱՆԸ ՊՈՉԻՆ ՄԻ ԿՈԽԵՐ Those who don’t learn from History, don’t deserve to have one. Everybody is so busy chewing on that rotten “doggy bone“. In another post we spoke about the Armenian slang word “krtson/կրծոն” to mean bribe, it is a piece of bone thrown at a dog to appease it. Speaking of a chewing bone, survey the stats here and observe that the highest number of responses is in the category of the Big G. Also note that during the past several months we have had no more than a handful of responses in that thread. We are all so busy chewing on that piece of bone that we can’t even open our mouths to utter a word. It takes only a piece of poisonous bone to shut us up. Déjà vu all over again. We remember those bones to shut us up going back hundreds of years when the “millet system” was created, with promises of full ethnic minorities' autonomy, a nation within a nation. Not only one “millet” but three, count them, “ermeni millet”, “katolik millet” and “portestan millet”. We bit that rotten bone and have been chewing all these years, even today, and in the process we have been gnawing on each others‘ bones.. Then came the so called “constitution/ reformation/ tanzimat” to mainly blow smoke in Europe’s face. We fell for it, we are still waiting. In 1918 furkey was the first to advocate independent Armenia, which was nothing but “divide and rule” i.e separating Armenia from Russia. We fell for it. It was when they attacked “isolated” Armenia (Sardarpat etc..) In 1991, another “AHA” moment, they were one of the first to recognize a once again Independent (out of soviet/Russian aegis) Armenia. We were so “delighted”. AH!!! Now we can all go back to our lost territories and enjoy that proverbial “furkish delight”. WRONG AGAIN!!!! As if they needed an excuse, it took one gunshot in Artsakh to once again seal the borders. This time, not the Christian west or north but our perennial rival of the south, the world’s most anti-Christian Iran came to our rescue. Why? Some day we may know. Then came more “doggy bones”. Allowing the repairs of leaky roofs of Armenian properties in stanbol, Rebuilding Aghtamar, not as a “church” mind you, with a dubious promise of once a year religious service. We might as well hold a church service in a tent somewhere, a tent made of used furkish flags. Promises of rebuilding of the City of 1001 Churches, Ani, promises of opening churches in Tigranakert, Kesaria etc….. please add. You fool me once, SHAME ON YOU. You fool me twice, three, four, a thousand times, SHAME ON ME! AND NOW, YOU WONDER WHERE EVEYONE IS?** ՇՇՄԱԾ եւ ԾՓՈԹԱԾ ԵՆՔ, We are all dazed and confused.. Everyone is busy chewing that rotten “BONE” Let sleeping dogs lie ***. Քնած շանը պոչին մի կոխեր ** http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=26582&pid=269980&st=20entry269980 *** Note above that “lie” means both to lie down and “tell a lie/untruth. Who is that dog that “lies”??? What is their “mother bark?” I mean mother tongue. Is their name erbokhan, edvard nalbandoghlu or sergey sergeyevich sargsovsky?

ՎՐԻՊԱԿՆԵՐ ERRATA, ERRORS I missed again, why is that “bird” is still alive?; http://www.carlisle.org/wildlife/images/fox%20missed%20again.jpg This is so irritating. Pick up an Armenian book, any book, be it in Armenian or any other language, look inside the back cover and see a loose paper labeled ՎՐԻՊԱԿՆԵՐ / Errata. The Armenian word for “error” is ՍԽԱԼ /skhal (the etymology is another matter) while վրիպակ (once again, needs etymology) in fact means “missed”(the target).** Why do Armenian books always have an addendum of “errata”?*** Do the authors read their work before publication? Yes, we know that the author may be biased and blinded, but do they have a neutral second-third party editor proof read it ?*** Another matter of concern. While most other publications have the Table of Contents at the front of the book, Armenian books consistently have it the last thing, even if they would be so kind to furnish it. Unless I am mistaken, I thought our Alphabet goes from left to the right, then why the Table of Contents is always at the most right of the book? Even more irritating. Take an Armenian , I mean scientific historical book and try to find the page referring to a certain name, place, incident… etc. , exceptions being true intellectual historians like R. Hovanisian. I have yet to see an Armenian book, be they literature, science or history wit an Index of names, places, happenings etc. Among many, the Encyclopaedia Britannica has whole volume 1200 pages of index, half of which is devoted to names, places etc. Why does not the Hanragitaran have such an index? Why do I have to turn 20,000 pages to find whatever? I should be thankful since more than half of such an index would be devoted to the likes ahmet, mehmet, hasan, alyevoghlu, all “members of the kom-kous” since 1912. Finally. If we are committing so many errors in our printed media, how many errors are we committing in our spoken media, i.e (un)diplomatic negotiations? **Even if both words are used alternately to mean “error”, there must be some subtle nuance. *** I am looking at book that has an addendum, a whole page, close to 50 of errata . If we err in a book of 50 pages, how many errors will we commit in a book of 50,000 pages? *** Yes, yes I know. I should heed to my own messaage. Often when I reread my posts I find many errors, be they simple typo-mechanical or lingo-contextual, simply because I have a self centered,biased view, but I would not commit those to the printed media before I read and reread,, and possibly have someone else read them.

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The “summit” begins tomorrow. Has Pres. Serge arrived yet?** Below (quote)an abbreviated version. See all 47 invited states. Make that 46 since Israel has reneged lest they be put to the test about their nuclear arsenal. Armenia, with Metsamor is a Nuclear State. Why is furkey invited? What business do they have in nuclear matters? Or have they “invited” themselves to simply neutralize the Armenian presence? **We mourn the loss the Polish President and his entourage, our condolences to the people of Poland. It is the rule in the US that the President and the next in line (Veep and on down) never fly in the same plane. Does Armenia have such a rule? ===== http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/04/obama-invites-nearly-50-nations-to-dc-for-summit-on-loose-nukes/1

Aghet ala Deutch Achtung!! Ya voll mein Kaiser! Wonder if the docmentary touches upon the German complicity? Does this mean that the Bundestag will affirm the “kenotsit resolutzionen”? Remember when in 1915 the agents of Bismarck were teaching the butchers of Osman new and improved techniques of extermination, and in the process learning new techniques themselves, like the use of cattle cars and long marches??? ==== === And a kneejerk reaction; --- “Why weren’t the German authorities informed that the film might cause damage to the German-Turkish relations?”??? HUH!! You mean recalling all those zougaran attending beggars back to stambol??? Or how about the German authorities “deporting” them???

Yes there are, there have been. In fact they go back by 40 years before Wiesenthal. Seek and see among many, who Hrant Guzelian and Hrant Dink are. Here a few of many. http://www.genocide-museum.am/eng/online_exhibition_2.php http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4735171.stm http://www.chanitz.org/2008/05/visiting-camp-armen-in-tuzla.html --- In this picture you will see both Hrant-s. Guzelian at the center and Dink at the far right. Both RIP! http://www.armeniancatholic.org.au/common/khatchkar.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2182/2103318997_66dc751934_o.jpg

Իմ ամենասարսափելի մղձաւանջը իրականանում է: Թէ մենք ինչ պիտի զրուցենք երբ Եղեռնի հարցը առկախուի կամ լուծուի: My scariest nightmare is becoming a reality. What will we talk about once the debate about the Big G is suspended or “resolved”, certainly not in our favor. For over a hundred years, half a dozen generations we have eaten, drank, breathed nothing but the Big G, and for good reason I may add. We have forgotten and ignored everything else Armenian, like history, culture, arts, literature, even LANGUAGE. Many, specially those in the Diaspora are still dreaming of “Return to Our Ancestral Homeland”. Even if “events” may be a realization of “dreams”, at this point our “dreams” seem to be condemned to that -“dreams” and more nightmares. I have asked this on several occasions, both in private and public. Let me ask again- WHAT WILL WE TALK ABOUT ONCE THE BIG G BECOMES A NON-ISSUE?? Once again, as things go the “issue” will not be resolved to our advantage. THEN WHAT!!??

Boghos, did you see this? http://www.mirrorspectator.com/?p=3283 http://www.mirrorspectator.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Bilezikiantrio.jpg

Are some of us just finding out that the streets in Glendale are not paved with gold? In America shovels are used to dig dirt and shovel snow with blood and sweat. Neither are cops in Glendale like vostikans in Gavar. Please allow me to tell this anecdote (actually a real story) again. An Armenian family of New England was traveling packed in their station wagon, the patriarch of the family, with a big handle bar moustache was seated in the back. The State Trooper stops them for whatever traffic infraction. License? Registration? The patriarch in the backseat says- “Սա շունին մի ոսկոր նետէ եւ ազատինք”: At this pint the trooper extends his neck and says in Armenian, surprise, surprise, “Այս «շունը » ոսկոր չի կրծեր**” ** In Armenian slang “կրծոն, կրզոն/doggy bone” means bribe. While in America bribe may be a punishable felony, in many other places it is a way of life. Like Azat says above, it may take several generations to realize that in America “crime does not pay”.

WOOHOO!! Mosjan our house Poet Laurate!!

How sweet it is- NOT!!!! Did I say that "proctocol" is a medical term? I think I did. -- Two monkeys in one bag.http://www.because-i-said-so-and-i-am-right.com/proctology.gif The first is this monkey who claims to be Armenian. Hi Mutafoghlu!! BTW. “sinrinoglu” is supposed to sound like “shirin-sweet”. Did he invent that Chinese sauce Sweet And Sour? http://www.gluten.net/recipes/pics/42sweet_and_sour_sauce.jpg And, here is the other monkey and his master trainer; Speaking of bags. What does this monkey have in his bag? Rotten Apricots?

Dear Mos, seems like you and I are desperately trying to bring the Forum back on line. I have been trying to use humor/sarcasm, and at times not so hmorous and sarcastic posts , apparently to no avail. I swear. If I see one more time a guest viewing "death robert kardashian" I will scream! After all, who the hell is/was he? Who the hell are the "kardashians"?? Why don't they change their name to "pornoian"??? How much lower can we get, searching the forum with the letter K and landaning on the likes of "kardashvorian-ian", and ignoring Kaputikian?

I beg your pardon, your Royal Highness. Who is who here. Which is the king and which the prince? Which is Sip and which MosJan, who is the third person? http://k53.pbase.com/o4/30/681730/1/63514784.xOwHtf92.050602524GrillArmenianw.jpg You can’t see him here, he is hiding behind his cheese-hat. Anyway, the place is “NOT OPEN”. http://takesunset.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gobi-mongolian-bbq-silver-lake.jpeg Actually I lied, here is the Fish-king Movses http://www.kayaksportfishing.com/images_3/photos_18/images/JewFish3a.jpg

Hey Sip!! What happened? Were you "born again"? All this time we have known you as "buffet connoiseur". And now yo claim to be "KING of KHORVATS". What happened? Did you suddenly wake up and saw that "KHOR-VIRAP"/khorvats verq/burnt wound has very little to do with "khorasan" in the Gobi Desert?

In another thread we spoke about how some people claim to be the world’s biggest producers and exporter of Apricot, and that they will create a world council about it. Here is the somewhat other sad face of the coin. Yes, we do remember that untimely frost when the buds and the flowers were frozen. Now, can we hear what Armenian sources are saying?? Caution the source of this news is not Armeno-friendly.

ԵՍ ԻՄ ԱՆՈՒՇ ՀԱՅԱՍՏԱՆԻ ԱՐԵՒԱՀԱՄ ԾԻՐԱՆՆ ԵՄ ՍԻՐՈՒՄ http://ladybirds.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/apricot31.jpg Never, never buy this, read the fine print before you do "product of furkey"; http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B001E53WBE/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8&n=16310101&s=grocery What will be next? Rename the fruit “prunus osmaniaca”? Note that all those places mentioned are part of Historic Armenia. I hate to do this, just we will see what is going on-

WILD WILD WEST!!?? This a cruel irony, specially during this Season the Resurrection/ՅԱՐՈՒԹԻՒՆ Obviously some people don’t the difference between Յարութիւն, to rise and Հարություն to hit/strike.** It is not only UGLY it is also SAD. While the Feast of Resurrection is a celebration of Rising of the buried, we are burying 4 or more. http://news.am/en/news/18271.html **Յարել means to stand up, to rise, to come while Հարել means to strike/hit. The most popular form of the word is ՅԱՌՆԵԼ as the Ր(soft) turns to Ռ (hard) before the letter Ն/N except in զարնել

We did too. It was known as "kenker tsamots" as opposed to "mastic/meztekeh", it lasted longer. Let me see if I can find what "kenker/ԿԱՆԿԱՐ" is. Thistle- Actually it is wild Artichoke-ԿԱՆԿԱՐ http://www.lifesci.ucsb.edu/~wallenstein/photos/images/artichoke%20flower.jpg http://www.simplythebests.com/nhoes/images/thistle.jpg Ուղտափուշ, տատասկափուշ: "Էշն ինչ գիտէ նուշը, կ'երթայ կ'ուտէ փուշը" ? See Aesop's fable;

We will see that “LOMI/LOMA” is a variation of “ROMA”. And as far as the Lbel of “gypsy” is concerned, the Europeans, when they first saw them they called them “egyption” i.e “E-gypsy”. Also remember that Esmeralda of the Hunchback of Notre Dame was a gypsy, just as Carmen of the Opera. In Spanish Flamengo in fact means “gypsy”. The story goes- When the Spanish first saw the Flemish of Belgium they thought “wanderers” hence the Flamengo (“gypsy”) culture. Dear Azo, Welcome. A fascinating subject. Please stay and tell us more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lom_people I did not know that Armenian Gypsies (Bosha) were also known as LOMI”. To this Day I did not know that “LOMI” was a synonym of “bosha”. What is the etymology? Aah!! Lomi/Romi, LOMA/Roma!! It was mainly out of ignorance as there is very little about the subject. Can you see the Armenian text? Can you read and understand Armenian? First from the Dictionary of synonyms; I will replace some pejorative terms like “mouratskan/beggar” with “bakhtagoushak/fortune teller”. The LOMI are best known for their music and dance ** * ** Is “gnchou” a variation of “chinkana/tsigan”? In the Nor Jugha/Charmahal dialect “gnjouz” means “STINGY/spend -thrift” http://khando.ucoz.ru/Javakhk.htm And finally this; http://www.tacentral.com/people.asp?story_no=10 http://www.tacentral.com/images/people.jpg Lest the site goes down again here is the text; ===

ԶՈՒԱՐԹ ԶԱՏԻԿ HAPPY EASTER In the Kilikian dielects-ՄԻՆԾ ԶԱՏԱԿ-Big Holiday- Easter, as opposed to Little Holiday- Պիտիկ/Պզտիկ Զատակ-Christmas http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=UNN/UNN002/u28127563.jpg ԶԱՏԿԻ ՃԱՇԱՑՈՒՑԱԿ/ԿԵՐԱԿՈՒՐ EASTER MENU http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/lead-photo.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/hy/features/mama_makes_it_better/22058/armenian_easter http://www.armenianow.com/hy/print/22058 How many of these menus and ingredients do you know?

You mean like in the Marash Dialect Իւշնիւֆիւր** Մինծ Զատակ, Շնորհաւոր Մեծ Զատիկ Easter as opposed to Պիտիկ Զատակ- Պզտիկ Զատիկ Christmas **Իւ will sound like the French and German U

Yea! Yea! My "ear" and my "rear" See it here; http://hippoversuswhale.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/donkey_ears.jpg you mean "my moon"? here; To not forget when hitler and his clowns were preparing a list of "peoples", when it came to "Armenian" he asked- "who are they? Some kind of 'gypsy'?

Hi LOMI, Welcome. Even if I have known " I Have no idea what "LOMI/LOMA" is. Please stay and tell us more. More will be coming about "bosha" etc.

Just as Nairi would say "varsahardar". Dear Nane, Look here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=26104&st=0&p=268843&hl=belmont&fromsearch=1entry268843