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And you are I know (secretly) pleased that that is their real state. It gives Armenians something to knaw upon, which is why it seems that no Armenian will ever do something constructive to actually improve that state and perhaps stop an even worse fate (like the fate of Aghtamar) from happening.

A lot of the Armenian-Kurdish connection is probably just a case of people who once (hundreds of years ago) thought of themselves as Armenians now thinking and calling themselves Kurds.

It's been covered in a thread before - from a number of years ago. Maybe Arpa can sniff it out (he is good at that, resurrecting long-lost threads )

Give a source for this please.

Such as Zvartnots.

Another article. Same magazine.

Hmmm, the churches are not explicitely identified as being Armenian.

Maybe because, if Sassounian has a close connection with the Lincy fund, which has been responsible for a number of damaging "restorations" of monuments in Armenia, he think there was nothing technically wrong with the Aghtamar restoration. Samvel Karapetian (of RAA) has said not a word against it either - in fact has praised it! Does that reflect the low standards in Armenia, or just that it takes a bit of knowledge to criticise the quality of the restoration, whereas basic "Turk-bashing" is an unskilled occupation?

Oh come on! No wonder the word "furtive" is so often attached to the word "Armenian". Fear of what? I can think of no legitimate reason why you could not give the location of the church.

I'm blaming him because for about a decade he has regularly been producing false propaganda about Aghtamar, and said nothing productive. He was not alone in doing it - but he did it more often and more consistantly than anyone else. So the Turks called his bluff - Aghtamar got an awful restoration (because in Turkey it probably couldn't be given anything other than that) - and all Sassounian can do now is whine about the church not having a cross on its roof and not being given to the Istanbul patriarchate (who have never expressed any desire to have it, btw). Where is the church renovated by your great-grandfather located?

The bit about a senator's wife named Catherine Stevens being mistaken for the watch-listed Cat Stevens would be hilarious if it weren't so revealing of the implications of misidentification for all of us. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17746791/

I spent over half an hour looking for that "serious cat - serious thread" meme. It was a legitimate response to Error404s somewhat pompous request to delete other peoples posts just because he doesn't deem them fit for his pupose.

Iranian magazine "Parseh" has an article on St Stephanos.

Turkey should start by being sincere to itself, and maybe then it would cease being obsessed with Armenia and Armenians.

# And as cross-posting moron to boot. There is no need to post identical postings in at least three separate threads.

Another moron.

Or worse still, it is deadly serious.

What does it say about the truth of the report, when the story has gone from "Turks invading Iraq" to "Turks preparing to invade Iraq" to "Turks preparing to stop PKK Kurds from possibly entering Turkey from Iraq"?

There is no such thing as a DNA test for "Armenian-ness"!

Or is the admin milking the situation to try to get funding from somewhere? Cynical me would suggest that, in a way, being hacked by Turks could be a useful thing because it proves that Turks think the website important enough spend time and effort to hack into it.

I guess it's: Istanbul; Lebanon; Syria; Cyprus; Israel; the older members of most of the older diaspora communities in Europe and the Americas.

Harut Sassounian is a vile little hippocrite. That piece of trash has been spreading propaganda about Aghtamar for about a decade - speading lies that the church was about to collapse from neglect, lies that it was being used for target practice, and so on. That piece of trash was the person primarily responsible for setting up the situation where the church could be used by Turkey for a "show restoration", a "restoration" that in fact inflicted much damage on the historic structure. (Not that you will find many Armenians actually daring to criticise the unsound "restoration" - because it is, in its ideological concept and in its execution, identical to "restorations" that have been inflicted on numerous monuments in Armenia). Sassounian doesn't give a *** about Aghtamar - he just uses it as another excuse to go on a bout of mindless Turk-bashing.

Rudyard Kipling

..and so on (like "chickening out", " indeedydoody", "magnificent", "Ho hum") Fisk's writing style gets more annoying and childish as each year passes. And as for the actual content of his work, I mostly don't bother to read anything he writes anymore: most of the time he is either just stating the blindingly obvious, or boasting about how brave and clever he is to be stating the blindingly obvious.

I agree, don't waste your time. There is no point it trying argue with a flat-Earther that the World is actually spherical - if he were clever enough to understand the argument, he wouldn't believe in his flat-Earth nonsense to begin with.