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I have searched for a proper information about the procedure and found none. I live in Israel and there is no Armenian consulate here. I can however try to apply for it in Jordan, if there is an Armenian Embassy there. If anyone can supply any useful information on how can I apply for the Armenian passport, I would really appreciate it. Many thanks in advance.

Does it mean if i was born in Armenia (lost citizenship when immigrated in 1993).. I can apply for Armenian passport? Anyone can tell me if there is any official information on how to do that???

Vava if I give you the ftp access to the site and you download the ASP file and the MDB file, would you be able to find out what is causing such a problem with CPU usage?

Vava jan, database is MDB and the file for voting gallery is ASP. I upload files using FTP. Can you help with something more concrete?

Hello friends, Yesterday I got this letter from my hosting company www.Readyhosting.com . Apparently unless I find a solution I will have to remove the voting component for the genocide posters gallery or move the site to a different hosting (which i dont want since its starting over again to setup database and stuff and i dont like asking for favours from people, but cant do it myself). Please read on, tell me what can I do about this and if there is anyone who knows about this stuff can perhaps help me out? --------- Hello Ruben Malayan, There is something running in a PHP script in your site that is causing a memory leak. This script is severely impacting the performance of the server, causing the memory usage to go above 90% and the total cpu of the server to hit 75%. As I'm sure you can understand, 75% of the cpu being used to host a single site on a server that usually serves thousands is a very big issue. As such, we have suspended your account. After suspending your account, server levels have returned to normal so we are positive that some code in your site was responsible. You will need to fix the code or unfortunately, we will no longer be able to host your site. This is the second time that this site has been identified as a root cause of a server issue. Please contact us if you have any questions or concerns by calling 1-888-257-2052. Alex - Technical Specialist ----------- My response: The site has been running on Readyhosting for 3 years now. I was never contacted regarding this issue before, so I assume there must be something wrong with your current configurations. All and all there is a gallery of the website where people can vote for the favorite posters, I am not a programmer but what you are telling me is very far fetched. You cannot just suspend the service I have paid for, without offering me any other alternative. The website has been on many accounts hacked by turks and I have asked for many times to improve your security protocols. It is very much possible that they managed to plant a bug which affects your server performance and it is your duty to find a solution for it. I AGAIN POINT OUT, THE SITE HAS BEEN UP AND RUNNING FOR 3 YEARS AND READYHOSTING HAS NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS ISSUE. It is only logical to assume that something has changed in your configuration and you need to look it up. Meanwhile, please restore my website access, because this is service I have paid for. I am awaiting for your response, Regards, Ruben Malayan ------------ Readyhosting response: Hello Ruben, I am writing in regards to ticket #2358614. During the past 5 years you have been hosted with ReadyHosting, the new ReadyHosting has only hosted your account for 1 year. The legacy ReadyHosting team has supported you for the other 4 years. It will be 1 year on February 21, 2007. Unfortunately, we cannot determine if your account caused performance issues on that server as we do not have access to it and never have. During the 1 year you have been on the new platform, your account has been determined as the root cause for system wide issues that have affected other customers. The two options previously sent to you are still in place. We do require that you review(or have someone review) what could be causing the issue on our server. After the issue has been looked into and resolved, we would be more than happy to continue hosting your site. Unfortunately, if the issue with the site is not resolved we will have to discontinue your services with us. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. If you have any other questions, please either reply to this email or phone us 24/7 at 888-257-2052. Thank you, have a great day. Jamie Technical Specialist ------------------- My response: Sadly this is evading responsibility from your side. Unfortunately you make me pay for your incompetence. For now please restore the ftp access so I can remove the voting mechanism for the gallery until I find another solution. ----------------- Can anyone help?

BBC article on the assasination (of course) put the word genocide in quotes. Furthermore, they dont hesitate to explain why.... ------------------------------------- Why put "genocide" in inverted commas? Whether or not the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Armenians during World War I amounted to genocide is a matter for heated debate. Some countries have declared that a genocide took place, but others have resisted calls to do so. ----------------------------------- Disgusting....

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3353505,00.html Love story: Israeli, Iranian soccer mates In middle of FA Cup soccer match, after Iranian midfielder Andranik Teimourian scores goal for Bolton, he is embraced by Israeli teammate Idan Tal Modi Kreitman Published: 01.18.07, 00:09 LONDON - It is an image you can see in almost any soccer match: One of the players scores a goal, and his friends pounce on him with aggressive hugs. Last week, in a match between the Bolton Wanderers and the Doncaster Rovers, was one real, warm, hard to fake embrace: In the 49th minute, shortly after Iranian midfielder Andranik Teimourian scored Bolton’s fourth goal, he was embraced by none other than Idan Tal, the team’s Israeli midfielder, who scored the team’s third goal a few minutes earlier. The image of number 16, Teimourian, holding number 23, Tal, quickly became a hit in newspapers and websites all over the world; even the “Persian Football” website proudly reported the historic cooperation between the Iranian and the Israeli. But Idan Tal, one of two Israeli players on the team along with defender Tal Ben Haim, does not understand what the fuss is about. As far as Tal is concerned, it was just another victory bear hug, and there is no significance to the fact that the other half of this embrace comes from a country which wished his own country gone, or at least gone from the Middle East. “We don’t discuss the tension between Israel and Iran,” he explained to Yedioth Aharonoth. “Other than hugging, hanging out together and showing the world that people can live and work together, we don’t deal with it. On the team bus we prefer talking about Persian food.” Kosher meals There are quite a few points of similarity in the stories of Tal and Teimourian: They are both considered creative and aggressive players, they were both considered big stars in their home countries, and they both joined the small club in this northern town near Liverpool last summer. The connection between them was instantaneous. “When we were told he was signed, it sounded interesting right away,” explains Tal. “I’ve never known any Iranians. When he came to the club I was already staying at the hotel that is attached to the stadium complex, and before we met he met my wife in the lobby. One of the officials introduced him to my wife and to our children, and they started talking. I met him later. The first thing I told myself was that he doesn’t look Iranian.” What did you tell him when you embraced after the goal? “We were laughing. We call him ‘Jesus’ on the team, a nickname the manager gave him when he let his hair grow long and he looked like Jesus, so I said ‘congratulations on the goal, Jesus.’ He’s told me that they follow his career excitedly in Iran. I don’t think they have a problem with him playing with Israelis or having contact with us.” Teimourian, it should be said, is undoubtedly a deep-seated Iranian. He was born in Tehran 23 years ago, and has been considered as one of the great promises of local soccer for a few years. He became a star in Iran while playing for Abumoslem Khorasan soccer club in the city of Mashhad, the country’s second largest city. The club was sponsored in the past by the Iranian military, which was replaced a few years ago by car maker Iran Khodro. Teimourian’s meteoric rise to stardom caused him to be called into the Iran national squad at an unusually young age. His first international game, incidentally, was against another one of Israel’s “lovers”, Libya. His success was not obvious: Teimourian is the first Christian player to play for the national team since the Khomeini revolution. When he crossed himself according to Christian custom before an international game, many viewers stared in disbelief. But Teimourian was able to become a part of the national squad, and is now considered the pride of the Armenian community, which has about 200,000 in Iran. His two goals in Saturday’s FA cup game were his first two goals in England. “He told me that his family called him from Iran,” Tal recalls. “His fiancée still lives in Iran because she is a school teacher, and he said she was crying with joy. I told him a picture of us hugging was published in Israel, and he thought that was very nice. He’s not really into what’s going on between the two countries. It is serious business, but it’s not something we deal with or should deal with. “We’re good friends off pitch as well. We talk a lot, sometimes we go out together. He told me a lot about Iran’s World Cup games. He’s living here alone, with no family, but he has a few Iranian friends who have lived in the area many years, and they were also very nice to me when I met them. "I had no opinion about the Iranians other than what I read in the papers, but now I know they are very nice. This is the beauty of Bolton, what makes it different from other Premier League teams: there are so many foreign players here, and we all get along without politics. Tal Ben Haim and I, for example, get kosher meals at the club, and a Muslim from Abu Dhabi who plays for the team gets meat from a Muslim butcher, so everyone is satisfied.” What does he tell you about Iran? He tells me more about the country in the family sense: His life there, his family, his fiancée. It was very interesting to hear about daily life there because we normally only hear about the politics. I told him, for example, about Jerusalem, the city where I was born. He was very interested and I told him that if he came to visit I would personally take care of him.” And if he invites you? “First of all, Persian food is excellent. So if Andranik invites me to Iran I will be happy, but I don’t think that will happen in the near future.” Would you agree to participate along with him in a campaign to improve Israeli-Iranian relations? “Sure. I think he would be willing to pitch in as well. We haven’t talked about it, but I’m sure that if it does something for the good of the relations between the countries, even something small, then why not?”

.. and by the way, when I say you need powerful friends or powerful weapons in this corner of the world to survive - its been like this forever here. Stop living in a fantasy world, this is not a neighborhood of Amsterdam. When someone says he wants to wipe you from the map, you got to take it seriously, especially when you realize he is very close to aquiring the means to do it.

.. oh yea, you forgot to mention, they also killed Jesus! Come on, Arpa, when some of the things you say are true, there is no need to go back thousands of years to see that hate breeds hate. All the people I know personally, yes ALL of them, Israelis, living in Israel, never reffered to Arabs as dogs or camel jockeys. They are secular, progressive and tolerant people who want to end the occupation and reach a new reality with Arabs. There are bigots and sadists everywhere, here including. Its a tough place to live, Middle East. Arabs have their own history of massacre and betrayal, for Xst sake, who doesnt? So let us not preach to anyone what laws they choose to live by. Instead, realize that in the time and place we live in, unless you got really powerful friends or really powerful weapons, you wont last a minute. ps. As of Moshe empire or Persian Empire, this is not a history lesson being replayed to you in real-time. Its a fanatic regime who wants to go nuclear. Now, they must be seem loyal to you now, but beware, once they get the upper hand, you'll see they care nothing for the liberties you and I take for granted.

Oh yea, and lets not forget our good neighboors Iranians, give them a nuke they want so much and see if the whole neighborhood wont go up in a big mushroom. Israel had good relationship with Iran before the Islamists took over. What reason they have to hate Israel now that they didnt have before? Oh yea, its their lunatic president and the mullahs who preach "death to infidels"... who else? And in no way I want to overlook the greedy for oil American capitalism who'd start another war (they did that on so many occasions, didnt they?) so that they could have a cheap gasoline for their SUVs. So yea, its not simple, but if you look into the root of the problem things clear up.

can you respect a "culture" of your neighbors who's lifetime work is to distroy you? do we, as armenians, respect the "culture" of turks who only wait for another opportunity to finish what they are started in 1915? come on, arpa, its far more complicated than that. Hizballah and Hamas purpose is to kill as many Jews as possible, too bad for them they lack the firepower to do it, and if the situation was reversed, they would not hesitate for a minute. once again, i stated before, and will say it again. occupation gives legitimacy to terror. israel doesnt occupy one inch of lebanese soil (leave sheeba farms out of it, its syrian territory), so there was no legitimacy of hizballah attack which distroyed lebanon as a result. israel withdrew from gaza. tell me then, why do they keep firing rockets from there if they are such good neighboors?

Lucky for me and for every other decent, honest and peaceloving human (regarding of their etnicity) who live here - YOU ARE NOT.

I thought you being serious. Whats the point in mocking, Arpa? Noone is perfect.

Dear Arpa, The way they pronounce Hizballa is the last of my concerns but the matter of fact is that i hear people pronounce it with "H" and with "KH", i think its a matter of personal lexicon. Hebrew native speakers would have a visible accent in Armenian, as they cannot pronounce soft "R" that we have in Armenian. The rest is pretty much the same only Armenian is far richer by phonetics.. by the way, did you notice that some hebrew letters are similar to armenian, sometimes reversed in direction or up-side-down.. ps. as of vacating and moving to Yerevan, the time hasnt come for that just yet, but its in the plan. one thing for sure, it wont be as a result of arababons taking over cuz that aint gonna happen, i mean, ever. they better get used to it

Its about time that moderator steps in. This thread became a place for so much hate that it sickens me to read it. In the beginning we had a decent argument, with me and Sasun reporting from both sides of the border, yes, we see things differently, but not once we hurled insults at one another. I pray he is well and no harm has come to him. As for people like Verginne and Iran Forever, if there are such things as incitement and blind hate - they are the champions. ps. Edward, thank you for the kind words and the recognition of work I have done for the genocide recognition. The fight for it is far from over.

I'd love to see the symbol of eternity be integrated in the flag... by the way, i dont like our colors either... its also the columbian flag upside down.. we could be much more creative, no? ( as of colors, i love French flag the most )

How I erred By Aluf Benn I was mistaken. Two weeks ago, I wrote here that Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah hates Israel but behaves responsibly, and that since he took control of south Lebanon, a stable balance of deterrence has been created on both sides of the border. "His behavior is rational and reasonably predictable. Under the present conditions, that's the best there is. Hezbollah is preserving quiet in the Galilee better than did the pro-Israeli South Lebanese Army," I wrote. But Nasrallah hastened to prove that his behavior is not predictable, when he gave instructions to attack an Israel Defense Forces patrol near Moshav Zarit and kill and kidnap its soldiers. The mistake in my assessment stemmed, as always, from the idee fixe that what was is what will be. I believed that if Israel and Hezbollah had learned to live according to the "rules of the game" that had developed along their common border, they would be interested in maintaining the balance of power rather than violating it. The IDF, the intelligence services and the government, who have at at their disposal much better sources of information than mine, thought the same. Fact: They lowered the alert level in the north a few days before the attack in Zarit; that means that they expected quiet. But although I was in good company, the responsibility for the mistake is entirely mine. But Nasrallah made a bigger mistake, and his mistakes are lethal. Not only because he had the same idee fixe and expected Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to behave like his predecessors, Ehud Barak and Ariel Sharon - in other words, to tolerate the incident in order avoid a second front in the north. And not because he did not make sure ahead of time, before he ordered the operation, that he had backing from the Arab world for a surprise attack across a recognized international border, on the pretext of "assisting the Palestinians." His principal mistake, which brought about the crisis, was that he was tempted to exploit an operational opportunity to kidnap soldiers. Nasrallah did not resist the temptation to sting Israel and appear once again as the hero of the Arab world. He probably believed in his own rhetoric about the weakness of the "Zionist entity," and when he saw the Israeli failure in the face of the kidnappers of Corporal Gilad Shalit in Gaza, he wanted a similar success. It is hard to believe that he expected to cause such destruction, or a diplomatic process that would attempt to dismantle his organization. The irony is that Nasrallah ought to know better than anyone that operational enticements invite dangers, and a tactical achievement is liable to be a strategic downfall. He rose to the leadership of Hezbollah in 1992 because Israel could not resist a temptation, and assassinated his predecessor, Abbas Musawi, by firing from a helicopter. Israel was punished twice for that: both by the appointment of Nasrallah, who turned out to be a more dangerous enemy that Musawi, and by the bombing of its embassy in Argentina a few weeks later. Two years after the assassination of Musawi, Yitzhak Rabin was tempted to bomb a Hezbollah base for new recruits. Dozens of members of the organization were killed. The response was a massive terror attack on the Jewish community building in Buenos Aires. After that event, Rabin was convinced that sometimes it is a good idea to resist temptation, because the enemy is liable to hit in an unexpected place, and to cause greater pain. The bombing of the base for new recruits proved to be an own goal, and from that time until the present conflict, Israel has refrained from highly publicized operations against Hezbollah. The present round of the conflict with Hezbollah has yet to end. But we can already learn a lesson from it. The most effective deterrence is achieved by walking on the brink, as Nasrallah has done until now. A barking and growling dog is more frightening than a dog that bites and attacks, as long as the neighbor has a pistol. And this lesson is worth remembering every time the temptation arises for another small operational achievement. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/740429.html

End it now The government is conducting this war with no peripheral vision Susie Becher When a lone Qassam fell on the grounds of an Ashkelon school that was closed for summer vacation and caused some damage to the building, Prime Minister Olmert called the attack a "declaration of war." One wonders whether he was just being loose with his tongue or whether he really forgot the meaning of the word. Since then, he has since gotten a very clear reminder: You think that's war? We'll show you what war is! Analysts looking for the answer to how we got here ought to recall the initial demand from the Palestinian militias for the release of female prisoners and children in exchange for Gilad Shalit. In our rush not to negotiate with terrorists (never mind that we have done so in the past and will inevitably end up doing so again this time) no one bothered to consider how it came to be that hundreds of Palestinian women and children are languishing in Israeli jails. Those who can't understand why the Palestinians haven't given up the struggle in the wake of Israel's withdrawal from Gaza might be surprised to learn that they don't share the distinction Israel draws between Gaza and the West Bank, and suffer daily reminders that the demolition of Gush Katif did not leave them a free people in their own land. On Monday, the commander of the IDF Judea and Samaria Division said that terrorist organizations in the West Bank are attempting to open another front. Wrong! As far as the Palestinians are concerned, it is all one front. Ever-more force In November 2000, opposition leader Ariel Sharon addressed some 100,000 demonstrators who had gathered in Jerusalem's Zion Square under the banner "Let the IDF win." The IDF had not exercised its full potential in confronting the intifada, Sharon told the assembled crowd, and his promise to end the policy of military restraint helped win him the premiership a few months later. Almost six years later and with no end to the fighting in sight, Olmert is still trying to sell the idea that there is a measure of force that has not yet been used but which, when unleashed, will deal what the prime minister called the "winning blow." More force, he is telling us, will succeed where mere force failed. We must restore the Israel's deterrent power, he is saying, as if the IDF's military superiority has ever been in question and as if it stopped the stones of the first intifada from evolving into explosive belts and rockets. Psychological warfare Whether Hasan Nasrallah gave the order to attack Israel's northern border and take IDF soldiers prisoner because he wanted to come to the aid of the Palestinians, win the release of Sami Kuntar after almost 30 years in captivity, 'liberate' the Sheba Farms farms, or simply strike a blow at the Zionist enemy, Israel certainly had a right to respond. But as the saying goes, it is better to be smart than right, and the government has been anything but smart from day one. It is proceeding militarily as it did diplomatically prior to this latest outbreak – with no peripheral vision. Both Olmert and Defense Minister Peretz keep praising the public's stamina, with the not-so-hidden message being that to voice opposition is to play into the hands of the enemy. This glorification of consensus and de-legitimization of political or popular protest poses a greater threat to Israel than the missiles being fired from the north. By making our ability to suffer in silence a test of our loyalty and bravado, the government is engaging in psychological warfare against its own citizens. The recent Dahaf poll that found that over 80% of the public supports continued military action might create the impression that this approach is working, but its success will be short-lived. The Israeli public's tolerance for military and civilian casualties is limited, and this is to our credit. It is not a sign of weakness; it is a sign of our humanity. End it now Yesterday Prime Minister Olmert told the nation that he is doing everything possible to bring the kidnapped soldiers home, but after meeting with a UN delegation today, his foreign minister hurried to dispel any notion that the opening of a diplomatic front would bring the military operation to a halt. Apparently the government is willing to do everything... except cease its fire. The chief of staff himself said that in the end it is not the army but the statesmen who will finish the job; the question is when. With hundreds of Palestinians and Lebanese – many of them civilians – killed in just a few short weeks, one might argue that we have already proven that we know how to wage war; now, for the sake of their children and ours, it is time to show that we know how to end it. Susie Becher is a member of the Meretz-Yachad National Executive http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278178,00.html

This thread slowly turns into Hizballah fan club and I have no interest in joining this empty polemic. If what I say is "israeli unwanted version of events . i.e. lies", then I guess you'll have to continue cheering for Nasrallah without my participation. Have fun.

If being Armenian means kissing Arab ass, then I guess I am not. Search my name on Google, see what comes up.

Watch Al-Jazzeera, they will explain to you that the fireball in the sky is a piece of ZilZal Iranian rocket which was hit on the ground by aircraft fire. There is a footage of the remains of that rocket, not israeli aircraft. Besides, its quite obvious if it was Israeli aircraft by now we would see pieces of it on TV.

Here is quote from Haaretz: "The Israel Defense Forces on Monday said it believed Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon attempted to fire an Iranian-made missile with a range of 200 km at Israel which malfunctioned and fell onto Lebanese territory. The falling missile, described as a Zilzal, was the likely source of Lebanese reports that an Israel Defense Forces aircraft had been hit and brought down over Lebanon. The IDF denied that one of its aircraft had been downed over Lebanon, despite Lebanese media reports. "There was no such thing," a military source said. The IDF initially said the object seen being shot down on Hezbollah's Al Manar television station was a failed attempt to launch one of the Katyusha rockets that have battered Israel over the past six days. "

Sassun, I listened to the whole speech from the first to the last word. If you managed to see a connection butween his words and the incident you claim to be a crashed f16 then you have a whild imagination. Time will answer the question if there was indeed a aircraft crash over Lebanon, which is also a possiblity of a technical malfunction. I saw the same footage you saw, and see no trace of a rocket nor any pieces of the large aircraft crumbling down. There was just a ball of fire, quite possible when lots of paper burn.

He said a lot more and in particular that until Hizbollah is kicked out of South Lebanon and the border is safe there will be no halt to the strikes. Nasrallah knows that, Lebanese know that and the rest of the world as well. High price to pay for a fool who plays with fire.

Have you ever seen crashing F-16, Sassun? You see what you want to see. Army denies any of its aircraft was hit.