Harut

quote:Originally posted by MosJan: Harout jan ba yes indz et tesak baner tuyl k2tam, restoran, meqena, inqnatir. yes el mi moment zarmatsa. mer Movses@ etents baner? quote husov kstatsvi. quote:nayi te 40 jares du el karas gas, jishta mi qich nerrvatsq klini, bayst te el um het em xorovats anelu, de gites eli Xashn el menak menak chi utvum. Bayts te mi payman, vor im girq@ qo grqits shuta helnelu, yev du nuyn bani masin ches grelu inch vor yes, mi tarber temma @entry, ham el Tv vra menak Horizon Tv karas aytseles, mnatsats@ imnna, yev qani chem moratsel, yete Azat@ 6pac piva arats ga arbanyak tesutyan mezi, indz 3 hata hasnum, mnatsats @de gites dzez yev muys 7 kosmanaftnerin. yes ho j@lat chem. dzer hamar em mtatsum, ba vor etanq Saturn u enter sirun mirun axchkerk erni, inch enq pativ talu... che, Mos jan, du menakt piti gnas. verji verjo da qo mtahghatsumn a. yes mi nor arbanyan kkarutsem u dranov du kgnas. arbanyaki vra el mets tarerov kgrenk "HAYQ". quote:ehhhh tesnes yerb mi hat Hye Kosmos kerta, etqan kabrim or ha ??? Yertam pid PAndxtutyun enem ora kosmos yertanq...MOvses - Mos jan? es inch eghav? aselt u anelt mek yeghav? Pandukht darar!!! Movses jan, hatuk ko hamar. mikich heto Poetry bajhin@ stugi.

ba, Mos jan, inchi miangamits ches asum inch azganver gorts es anelu? etents mets partakanutyun es uzum vertsnel ko vra. yes el gitei te sovorakan azganver gorts es uzum anel. de gites eli, tum, mekena, sepakan inqnatir, restoran....

pigh@ hayots mshakuytum amenamets, akanjavor trchunn a. ha, mekel krkesi khorhrdanishn a. mekel, gazananotsum, chgites inchu, dranits mish @ndamen@ mi hat ka. el inch asem? pigh@ Grand Candyi khorhrdanishn a. mekel, pgheri anun@ Hayastanum misht Vova a linum. el chgitem. karogh a hamov khorovatsi mis unen? esqan ban ??? HArout jan apami grqer@ lav p@rpti tesnem!!! Mis@ hamova - asum en - vovayin vor spanetsin masiv - marash shrjani jorovurd@ hamtesel eyin che himnakanum pir@ mez mot voch te mets bari harazat kendani e yerel iyl, barbarosneri, qochvor tsereri, kormits ogtagotsvats kendani vorn misht el ogtagortsvel e mer dimats, hishum eq avarayri jakatamart@??? ur parsikner@ prerov voroshel eyin mez j@zmeyin??? der k@sharunakem... [ January 22, 2002: Message edited by: MosJan ]

Mos jan, vor avelana, zdachin indz ktas.

i just thought of something else. with what else can "vard" be assocciated with??? besides color. its currly shape? i was thinking about Armenian masculine name "Vartges". why did it originated? because of one's red hair? or currly hair? or both?

Arpa, about the colors, the pink color assocciated with "vart" may come from Russian. they use "rosovi'" to mean pink. it is possible that Armenians started reffering to "vartaguyn" as pink only lately, with the arrival of Russians. if it is not so, then why is "al", meaning dark red, also assocciated with "vart". (i mean it is used with "vart" a lot ("al vart", "alvan vart")). or maybe "al" is not an Armenian word at all, because Russian word "ali'" also means dark red. ooohhh, i'm confused.

did you call me??

friendship between man and woman. i strongly believe that it is very possible. the friendship is based on respect and understanding and not on common interests and viewpoints ( as i mentioned above). so there cannot be any "natural" reason for man/boy and woman/girl not becoming best friends. i also believe in friendship in group. a group of people can become friends. but there is one problem. one cannot possible respect number of people at exact level. so sooner or later some in the group develop better relationships and become closer. and if there is no one left alone in the group then the friendship would continue. that's all. waiting....

now in general. i don't think that good friend is the one who accapts you the way you are. many friendships are formed because one of the friends initially takes steps to change the other.(and i don't mean it in negavite way) i knew somebody who wasn't on the right way of life. he wasn't my friend. but i became his friend to change him, to put him on the right track. and he liked it. friends don't always share common interests. they can be different, but yet can form a strong relationship, where they share and introduce to each other the thing they are good at. my best friend hated soccer (i would kill anyone who said he/she hated soccer), but he was my best friend. there were many more things that we disagreed on, many essentiol issues such as family, education, life.(he was very "ARTURian" person, exact opposite of me) RESPECT in my opinion, this is the most important factor in friendship. people can be different, but when they respect each other they become friends. best friends are the ones who care to listen to each other, who try to understand what the other one is saying. best friends are the ones who treat each other as they would themselves.

so you are saying that best friendships are made at younger ages. i'm not willing to agree with you but this is quite true. i'm almose 19, moved to US 3 years ago. before coming here, i had so many friends. now when i think back, it's very interesting that i managed to make so many friends. i had categories of friends: friends with whom i was in mutual relationship with whom i just went to partties with whom i played soccer etc.... and it was very easy to make and keep a friend. but after moving here i find it very hard to make a friend. is it my age? or what? i can talk to somebody for long time, keep in touch, but it never turns into a friendship.

quote:Originally posted by Azat: Best friends always bring a six pack of beer when thay come over. Harut, you want to be my best friend? sure. come over!

i would like to open a discusion on friendship. what is a friendship? who are "best friends"? what do they serve for? friendship between man and woman? lifetime friends? what are the most occuring problems between friends? i'm looking forward for an interesting discusion. thank you

Mos jan, Shnorhakal em. btw, i sent you a PM. did u get it?

Mosjan, shnorhakal em. SAS, iskapes ays yerg@ shat lavn e. indz dur e galis ambojgh "Yerevan Blues" film@. eh, qo xorhrdov ksharjhvenk. husov em gushakutyunnert &isht en.

quote:Originally posted by hasmiek: [QB] When I was 18 I graduated from school, and I went to an university in another city to escape from my parents. This is still one of the best decisions I ever made; I started to do everything I always wanted, and no one could stop me, even not my family. And guess what, I didn't end up pregnant, on drugs, as a prostitute, dead or anything else that horrifies parents [QB] Hasmiek, have you ever thought about this more seriously? don't you think that the reasons for not ending up pregnant, on drugs,... were your strict parents, or the envirment you grew up (your parents' home)? i cannot tell for sure, but as i can see from your story those things, that i mentioned above, should have had a huge impact on your life. and why not, maybe there were the main reasons for you to have the great life you enjoy now. take care

guys, there is a problem in the forum (i guess). every time i click "add the message" or "send new PM" it gives some kind of error message. i posts the messages apperantly, but doesn't take me back. and i don't know if the PMs get there. also, it doesn't happen in all the topics though. i'll post the exact error message next time. thanks let's see if this one is going to give that message.

quote:Originally posted by MosJan: [QB] ~ inchu ovkyanosits iyskorm pit gayi vor nor haskanayi te vorqan em sirum qez im Erevan. [QB] ~arjhi hasnel ashkharhi tser@ vor ays barer@ haskanal... Mos jan, nuyn ban@ im het katarvets. mets hrjvankov lqetsi yerkin@, bayst aysegh galus pes hayrenaser dara (lav imastov). u hayreniki arjheq@ nor haskatsa.

quote:Originally posted by MosJan: HArout jan djvar@ arachin 5 tarina heto sovorakana darnum. jishta, arejin 5 tarin vor antsnum a, arden dodanum enk u ankakh mezanits aprum. chgiten inchi hamar yev inch npataknerov. (didn't mean to hurt anyone, sorry ) quote

when i was in Armenian i know that there are Armenians who are idiots, who are smart, who are "hetamnats", who are very modern. but when i moved to California, it seemed that Armenians are all the same(somewhere in the middle or toward the negative side), which irritated me a lot(dullness (miapaghaghutyun ?) of it). but now i'm happy again to see some many diverce thinkings. and i disagree with Artur who says "Armenians in Armenia do this, behave that way...". i think Armenians in Armenia are more diverce in their thinks and lifestyles than here in California.

quote:Originally posted by Azat: Da message by HaYaStAnRuLeS prooves that I m 2 old 2 understand da way that n e of our young people talk. It took me 15 minutes to read it. at least you got through it. i couldn't passed beyond the second line. did i become old too?

quote:Originally posted by MosJan: Question to To Armenian Diaspora -> ? Haw many of us will ever go back, and what would teak ? what would you like to see in Armenia, what changes ? , what would convince you to go back to our home land to Armenia, Some of us just left Armenia, Some of us been hear for 10-20 years. I my self have this dream of going back Home when I retainer 45- 50 years old (One mor dream0 , I have made plans to porches a home in Yerevan, and a Land close to Khorvirap, but I just cant picture my self in Armenia doing business , or living in Armenia. I’m not afraid of hard life, but I get disipointed when I remember the officials who make living of... i don't how many of us, but i'm deffinetly going back( as i talked about this before). i can't adjust to the States. i don't feel comfortable here. this isn't my country, and i doubt it will ever become.(even if i spent the rest of my life here).

Ok, i was just kidding. didn't mean to stop you from posting about surenames.

did you hear how much some Armenian historians and musicians complain about the opera? as i heard they say it completely misrepresented Armenian cuture and the history of the time. also, i heard they didn't approve the musical part of it, saying it was not what Tigran Chukhadjian wrote. what do you know about this?

Mos jan, karik@ ka, bayts kogtagortsenk te che, eto drugoye delo. since i'm new to technology/computer/internet world (in terms of mastering it) i would really like to see such a forum. i don't promise to contribute to it much, but i would surely benefit from it. (as Azat would post about new "anbakh-zanbakh" invantions )

enkan anbakh-zambakh, zzveli baner asik vor el amusnanals chi galis. (chnayats vor hl@ mi 10 tari el mtadrutyun chunei).