Harut

quote:Originally posted by SAS: Harut, Movsesn asum e arden 1000-ic avel post es arel: Da &isht e, te Movses@ "vred...post a anum"? Yete na &isht e, ba el zhamank kmna lezu sovorelu?... Isk yete lurj, apa da kaxvats e any banic, te INCHOV es zbaghvelu? Chkan LAV "Programming Languages", kan konkret problemner:Amen mi xndir pahanjum e ir lezun: Bayc du hayerenic karchir` mnacatsn ancoghik baner en... ____ SAS SAS jan, inch anem? es HyeForum@ esents virusi nman mtela mejs, chem karum azatvem. hankarts mi or chgam estegh, yerazits Movses@ galis a, esets satanayi kotoshnerov, u sksum a indz kheghtel. asum a: "ure eir, ara!? ure eir, ara!?" de, yes el stipvats galis em. ba? esents baner. ====== SAS jan, ba du der chgites te yes inch programner em grum hayerenov?!!? hayerenov C u C++ em kzatsnum.

quote:Originally posted by PandukhT: HArout jan harst chka aper , problem unenas indz asa, do xom gides te yes vonts em tirapetum et lezunerin. Movses jan, yes shat lav gitem te du vonts ec tirapetum ayd lezuner@, dra hamar el qez chem hartsnum.

quote:Originally posted by Azat: Harut jan, do you enjoy root canals? If so go ahead, if not, do not ever listen to that friend again. VB is a good way to learn structured programming. It is a good tool for small apps and some mid size apps, but most corporations do not use VB for core software development. Lear VB well and move on to C/C++ adn try to master that. [ February 07, 2002: Message edited by: Azat ] Who is root canal? i guess i have to steack with VB.

quote:Originally posted by Sip: No No No! First learn to walk then learn to run, then go for the marathon. Visual Basic is great to start. That's how I started ... actually it was the BASIC on Commodore 64 and then GWBasic and Quick Basic in Dos then Visual Basic. Those things will come later down the road. For some faster than for others ... i guess i need to learn walking now, because i can move by "choreqtat" already. actually i learned BASIC back in '95 in Armenia, when i was only 12. it was fun. we spent about 8 months on that language. but i didn't learn much (even though i tried VERY hard) because first i didn't speak English, second i was too young to understand the concepts, and plus i didn't own computer, so the only time i can use a computer was in class.

you see? now i'm all confused. ha ba hima inch anenq? es yeghn u brindz@ ur dnenq? ====== THINK HARUT THINK!!!

people, why are you ignoring this one?

quote:Originally posted by LISA: Hi Henry, I'm armenian, cool and very cute!!! quote:Originally posted by henry: Hi Lisa, i am armenian and I love armenians(I say lets group hug). I am also cute and very energetic -lol, @h@@@@@. that's it. Henry + Lisa = the topic is closed. the two can stay, the rest of you just leave. gyoz dneln el arqelvum a.

quote:Originally posted by Garo: [QB]multi-threading, sophisticated memory management, and ultra-high performance software (like games) using Visual Basic? Ok let's not scare Harut.[QB] see, many people say this. that's why i sometimes wonder myself whenther i should spend time on VB or not. sometimes i think it's better to spend that time on studying things you guys mentioned above (basic, fundamental stuff). and then i could study more sophysticated languages. what do you guys say?

quote:Originally posted by Garo: Also I think for the beginning there's no need to have complete knowledge about how specific functions/mechanisms exactly work inside your computer/operating system. Just understanding the logic how they work will be enough. Some detailed reviews of specific subjects (DOS vs Windows, or Windows vs Unix for exmple) are very good sources for this kind of information. for understanding the basics of the programming language, one has even recomended to read about COBAL. he says just read without spending too much time on it trying to learn it. he says COBAL gives a great info on how every single detail works. what do you guys think?

quote:Originally posted by Garo: [QB]Sip and Azat already gave you enough information to start but I'd add a few words as well. Find a good book or a website about the existing operating systems if you're serious about programming. People are trying to make a program having no idea what's going on inside of the program, how the operating system handles it and runs. Especially when they're using visual tools for development. Spend some time on learning about different programming methods as well - modular, object oriented and so on. Then you'll have much more clear understanding of what you're doing, what you can do or can not do using specific operating system, programming language or programming method. [QB] i study those in college too. right now i have a course that introduces to computer hardware, how they work, memories, their roles, etc. also, in the same course i study OS's (windows, macs, linux, dos, ...), but again just an intro. they say we'll spend more time on them in couple of semesters.

quote:Originally posted by Azat: These books do not work if you do not follow as it says on the title. You have to finish the book in 24 hours or else you wont learn anything. really? then forget about this topic, i spent 24.1 hours on it. quote so, you're saying SAMS is good. i'll stick with it. i'll also check those two you mentioned. quote a couple of months ago i pick up one those VB Bible books, but it was so big i thought it's for more advanced programmers. i'll check it again, maybe i AM an advanced programmer now. [/qb]Also, there are MANY resources online that that be great help for you when you are writing code. Use Google to find them or if you want send me your email via PM and I will send you my VB branch from the "Favorites" list from IE. [/QB] if you could, please, send those things. use the e-mail on my profile. i actually spent some time on the internet a few weeks ago searching for VB stuff. but all i was getting were for advanced people, because they were using all the terms that i'd never heard of.

quote:Originally posted by Sip: In my opinion, you don't need any more books. You need books just to get you started. After that, you have to learn to use the references/help on your own. the reason i want to continue with another book (maybe more in-depth one) is because this one is too introductory (at least i think so). i see other VB books in library that are 5'' thik, and this one has only 24 tiny chapters, and that leaves me with a scare that i haven't learned anything with this book. quote:After some time, you will get a good feeling and "know" what to expect and how thins work (believe me!) and i thought i have to read books first, so later i will have the feeling of expectation. quote but later i'll again need to read some books to learn those advanced stuff, right? or i'll learn them again but messing with?

Just like i promised. ok, my first question is not going to be hard (i think). how many of you know Visual Basic? this is the only language that i'm learning now. i don't know any other language yet, excapt the old regular BASIC that i learned some 7 years ago, when i was only 12. now the second question. i'm almost finished with the introductory book they give us at college. it's from Sams Teach Yourself series. it's called "Visual Basic 6 in 24 Hours". most likely i'll finish it in a week. i learned most of the stuff it talks about. i even went beyond by trying stuff by myself. now that i still have a month left until next term, where i'll start a new language, i want to expand my knowledge on VB6. but, the problem is i don't know which publishers are the best. i don't know which books are the best. so if you know, please, tell us which publishers i should trust, and which books are the best for learning a porgramming language (VB6 for now). that's it for now. thank you.

i don't know which one is the best, but Sevak's "Menq qich enq,..." has become the most popular Armenian poem. man, every time we talk about literature or poetry i remember my parent's library. back in Armenia they had a personal library of about 500-700 books. they are still in our home in Armenia, but they just pile a dust on them. i wish they were here.....

the paths of bugs will surely be like spiral, going from each corrner to the center. some calculas can solve the problem.

quote:Originally posted by Sip: Four bugs are placed at the corners of a square. Each bug walks always directly toward the next bug in the clockwise direction. How far do the bugs walk before they meet? i'm just guessing for now. each has to walk as long as the side of the square. am i correct?

quote:Originally posted by HaYaStAnRuLeS: i'm sorry guyz, but the best armenian poem is definately shiraz' "yes im anouch hayastani..." no question about it... topic closed... although i must admit that "drdounchk" is a good contender ... [ February 05, 2002: Message edited by: HaYaStAnRuLeS ] the author of "Yes Im Anush Hayastani" is not Shiraz but Yeghishe Charents.

ok, i'm back. Movses? es inchi es neghatsel? menq ho estegh enk! yes arajarkum em: design a site where people(women) around the world can post their pics and autobiographies (AND SOMETHING ADDITIONAL. ANY SUGGESTIONS?). selecting the winner can be done in two ways: 1. visitors can view the site, see each contestant, and vote for one. or 2. a group of judjes, assigned by Armenians.com, will review each contestant's pics, bio, and that one additional thing, and will announce the winner. the announcement of the winner can be done once a month, once a season, or once a year.(ANY SUGGESTIONS?) prices may or may not be awarded (ANY SUGGESTIONS?). ---------- i cannot help with designing and creating the site, sorry. i don't know how to do it. but maybe i can write stuff, as Movses suggested. but somebody must proofread it, because i'm not good at English. ----------- ANY COMMENTS? ANY SUGGESTIONS?

Azat jan, i'm not good at US History, but i would say that George Washington got his name only after he started his military career, and his name was not George Washington in 1752.

i knew it. i just didn't answer it correctly so Azat will post more questions.

chhaskatsa. es mer hashvin uzum es @ntaniq pahes? bayts lav, vochinch, es anqam nerum em. im kes@ karas Azatin tas.

Azat!!!!! esents chi lini. inch eghar? mi ban ches aselu?

Movses, es Aram papin a?

quote:Originally posted by PandukhT: OK Jorovurd yes sksum em yes patrast em inchov vor petqa, Nuynisk Anun el unenq arden ArmenianQueens.com kam ArmenianQueen.com, yes nax@ntrum em Queens@ qani vor aveli lav klini mrtsanak@ mekits aveli HAyuhineri tal , Tor chlini TAguhi Ameniyn HAyits - Tor linen TAguhiner Ameniyn Hyots. MOvses ok, Movses, asenq site@ ka. bayts inch enq anelu? menq (jhoghovurd@) mer koghmits aghchikner enq arajarkelu u heto ardar @ntrutyun a linelu? te, vonts? asa miananq, teche @nents chlini vor du aracharkes, du @ntres, menq el koghqits nayenq.

quote:Originally posted by SAS: Ba en mer Harut@ BA!? chi mtnelu zhyurii mej? Aranc Haruti mite hnaravor e gegheckuhi @ntrel? asa e, SAS, asa. indz lriv moratsel en.