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I didn't want to see Ararat because most people I know said it wasn't a worthwhile movie. But my curiosity eventually won out. I must say there is a lot that's BAD about the movie. The AG is considerably played down. I suppose the distributors didn't want any competition for the holohoax. You get the feeling that most non-Armenians would come away from the movie saying, "Is that all there is to it?" Not a very good impression. It needed to be more graphic. There were some aspects that were completely absurd. Like the dumb girl drug dealer that destroys Gorky's work. She was a total waste. The stupid getting caught with heroin in the film cans...lame. The turkish fag that everyone had to thank so sickeningly for his work in the movie. I mean kiss kiss suck suck, here is some wine you poor, misunderstood turk. The two major redeeming things in the film are the Gorky character and the Levon character who goes out to shoot up the turks after they kill his kid. A real tear jerker. Maybe that will help you decide about seeing the movie. Oh yea, the music was fanastic at least.

You might want to ask his permission before you talk about him or his work here. Isn't Thoth always causing trouble...the guy snaps when anybody disagrees with him. He is certifiable. I don't blame Steve for being mad at this place. This is not the first nor the last place that Thoth acted out.

Was he or was he not a jew??? A simple yes or no will do.

Why shouldn't he proidly state what he did? Seems like the old guy knows something, something that some people would rather put a bag on their head and ignore. Just ask the old people, they know the truth, no matter what some of you have been brainwashed to believe. Stop defending the indefensible. All in the name of what? The time is going to come when you're going to have to decide what's important TRUTH or being PC, because your penchant for PC is going to make you grasp for straws and get nowhere until the second coming. You will never see justice. Enver was a jew, acting as a jew. In whose interest is it to minimize or distort historical FACTS? People need to get out of this robotic programming turks. turks.turks.turks.turks.turks.turks.turks.turks.turks.turks. NO, sorry, they did NOT act alone. There were others involved in the AG besides turks. Morgenthau was more interested in trying to work for the zionists, not save Armenians. Now tell me that something on cilicia.com should be forbidden here: London Times Correspondent Says He Wasted Energy of Zionists -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Special Cable to THE NEW YORK TIMES. LONDON, Friday, Oct. 8,--The Times published a long account from a correspondent, of the American massacres in which he says: "Attempts of the American Ambassador to procure some alleviation of the lot of the Armenians have thus far proved unsuccessful. Mr. Morgenthau, in the opinion of good observers, has wasted too much diplomatic energy on behalf of the Zionists of Palestine, who were in no danger of massacre, to have any force to spare. Talaat and Bedri simply own that persecuting Armenians amuses them and turn a death ear to American pleadings. "German and Austro-Hungarian residents in Turkey at first approved of the punishment of Armenian 'traitors' but the methods of the Turkish extremists have sickened even Prussian stomachs. True the Jewish Baron von Openheim, now in Syria, has been preaching massacre and German Consular officials at Aleppo and Alexandretta have followed suit perhaps with the idea of planting German colonists in the void left by the disappearance of the Armenians when the war is over. "But the German Government has grown nervous. On Aug. 31 the German and Austro-Hungarian Ambassadors protested to the Grand Vizier against the massacre of Armenians and demanded a written communication to the effect that neither of their Governments had any connection with these crimes. Turkey has so as far given her Allies a certificate of unblemished character and the bestowal of the order Pour le Merite on Enver ***** by the Kaiser is not likely to give the impression that Germany is in earnest." The correspondent also says: "The sale by Bedriss police of Armenian children of both sexes to the keepers of disorderly houses and Turks of bad moral character has provoked protests in Constantinople. "The object of the conversion of children reported from some districts and the very general sale of women and girls appear to be political. Foreigners believe Tallat has countenanced these crimes with the object of breaking up the strong social structure of the Armenian community in Turkey." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Retrieved from "http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Criticises_Mr._Morgenthau_-nyt19151008b"

The US is a "republic"?????? Not for very many years. It has been perverted into a liberal "democracy." There is quite a difference.

You're bad. You tried to rig the vote by placing inappropriate and misleading adjectives before the choices. What is "enlightened despotism"?????? Anyway, you forced me to vote for "tyrannical disctatorship" which is silly. Why would a dictatorship necessarily be tyrannical? I want an ultra nationalist patriotic leader who will whip the place into shape, but I necessarily expect that such a person will be just, honorable, honest and a servant to the people. But I don't want anyone to be able to put obstacles in the way, strong leadership is needed.

It goes way beyond politics.

Groong got it from Hurriyet, I tried to get to Hurriyet to see if I could get more information about the originator of the quotations, but no luck. Vava, you don't get the point? I was turning their LIES into truth.

I have a thing or two to say to them in response Vanetsi, this is what I meant about Elie Wiesel. It is wrong to look for similarities between the Armenian Genocide and the so-called jewish "holocaust." The Armenian Holocaust was a political decision made with the aim of wiping a nation of the face of the earth. I have no respect for the decision made by the German government and the German people regarding the jewish problem. We believe that the matter should be debated by revisionists and historians and not politicians or movie makers in order to expose the truth. It is time to stop persecuting those who dare to expose the lies and exaggerations. For example, why did Ellie Wiesel in his book reveal that the Germans gave him the option of going with them or staying behind when he was in an Auschwitz hospital? To quote: "The choice was in our hands. For once we could decide our fate for ourselves. We could both stay in the hospital, where I could, thanks to my doctor, get him (his father) entered as a patient or nurse. Or else we could follow the others. 'Well, what shall we do, father?' He was silent. 'Let's be evacuated with the others,' I told him." Why did 20,000 prisoners from the Auschwitz, most of whom were jews, choose to go with the "mass-murdering" Nazis rather than await Soviet liberation? This was reported by the Primo Levi in his book "Survival in Auschwitz," where he states that 800 prisoners choose to remain at Auschwitz, and 20,000 choose to evacuate (with the "mass-murdering Nazis").

Israel does not want Kurdish state in Iraq, Israeli envoy in Turkey says Hurriyet website, Istanbul 19 Aug 05 Excerpt from report by Ipek Arioglu and Selcuk Senyuz: "We do not want a Kurdish state" published by Turkish daily Hurriyet website on 19 August Stating that they would act jointly with Turkey in northern Iraq, Israel's Ambassador Pinhas Avivi said: "If a Kurdish state is formed in the north then a Shi'i state would be formed in the centre of Iraq, and that we are opposed to." Avivi also said that securing economic support from Turkey in the Gaza Strip was important. Stating they were definitely opposed to the formation of a Kurdish state in northern Iraq, Israel's Ambassador Pinhas Avivi said: "I promise that nothing we are not coordinating with Turkey will happen in the region. Israel will conduct all its activities in the region by acting jointly with Turkey." Talking to Hurriyet Avivi gave the message that Israel would do nothing in northern Iraq that went against Turkey's interests. Avivi also said allegations that Israel was backing the Kurds in the northern Iraq were completely baseless, and that they had been fabricated by the Iranian embassy. We are opposed to Kurdish state He continued: "I guarantee you that Israel is not acting against Turkey's interests in northern Iraq. If a Kurdish state is formed in northen Iraq then a Shi'i state would be formed in central Iraq, and that we are opposed to. Both Turkey and Israel are elements of the region, and we both want stability. We want Iraq to be a unified, Western and democratic country. Any development to the contrary would affect both Turkey and Israel adversely." Turkish support for Gaza "Israel's evacuation of the Jewish settlements in Gaza is a positive decision. It is important for ensuring that the economic gulf between the two people's living on that land is closed and for bringing about peace. If the withdrawal from Gaza is a success and I Turkey and the other regional countries provide economic support to the area and terrorist activities come to a halt then peace is possible. Failing that peace is not possible. We welcome Turkey's promise of support with the aim of contributing to the peace process. In this context the Ankara Forum, which aims to bring together Israeli, Palestinian and Turkish businessmen at the Turkish government's initiative is important." Armenian problem "It is wrong to look for similarities between the so-called Armenian genocide and the Jewish Holocaust. The Holocaust was a political decision made with the aim of wiping a nation of the face of the earth. I have great respect for the decision made by the Turkish government and the Turkish people regarding the Armenian problem. We believe that the matter should be debated by historians and not politicians in order to expose the truth. Turkey has opened its archives, and this is very important." Serving Turkey "Israel supports Turkey's EU bid. When my European friends ask, "What will become of Europe when Turkey and its 70-million population joins?" I ask them, "You should consider what might happen to the world if Turkey remains outside the EU." In every place where there is an Israeli Embassy there are two embassies supporting Turkey's EU bid: the Turkish embassy and the Israeli embassy." [Passage omitted]. http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg120864.html

NO ONE but no one gets funded by HRW or the US govt. unless they spread their lies.

Vava, did you check into WHO IS BEHIND your so-called neutral source? HRW - Soros Ford Foundation Euro Commission US AID Sam Rubin Foundation Reuters There's more, but I won't list all of them. Pfffffffffffffffttttt NOT NEUTRAL AT ALL.

How were Serbs the aggressors??? For preventing the illegal breakup of their country by outside forces? There was a constitutional procedure for leaving FRY, but it was NOT followed. As to albanians being the majority...you saying they ought to be rewarded for ethnically cleansing Kosovo since WWII with the aid of Hitler and Mussolini? In both cases, muslims who don't belong there were trying to get rid of the people the land belonged to.

In my experience, I have never seen the Serbs lie. I have seen them vindicated on every single occasion. I have watched this situation very closely since the very beginning. If you do not see a similarity between the situation with the Serbs and Armenians, then I can't help you. Talk about being blind. Careful, there.

I have no specific sympathies with any of the groups involved in the turk/azeri/Armenian conflict. The Armenians did some very bad things - as did the turks, as did the azeris etc... no one group was entirely 'in the right'. My problem lies with you taking what is obviously a pro-islamist 'manifesto' and project it as the ultimate objective of an entire ethnic group (perhaps even out of context). It's incorrect to generalise to that level - there are so many shades of grey between your black and white. The situation IS black and white, there are NO shades of grey. One side is clearly in the right and one side is clearly in the wrong. Bottom line...do these people LIE or don't they? This is serious because people are being killed due to LIES. Because of nato intervention, the wholesale murder of Serbs continues and their native lands are being ethnically cleansed of Serbs. It is the intention of islamic expansionists to ethnically cleanse the world of those not adhering to their sick religion. Of all people, you should realize that it was the intention of the turks, or maybe you don't think so??

The ANCA does good work. I have supported them in the past and I will continue to do so as I am able. They are at the forefront in doing everything for Armenia and Armenians. That's not to say there aren't many other worthy progarms to support.

Why are you so quick to say obviously it's fanatics? There's nothing obvious about it. It was printed in a muslim magazine. What do you think those murderous muslims fighting the Serbs were, pacifist innocents or something? Give me a break. They were engaged in a most brutal war against the Serbs. So, tell me is every ethnicity like turks??? I don't think so. I don't see any Armenian in his/her right mind ever supporting islamic expansionsits which those people most defnitely were/are. Even the Croats, who also fought against the Serbs, know that these muslims were fanatic islamic extremists. It is very odd that your sympathies seem to lie with them. Is it this "ameriKKKan" thing, you think because your stinking government supported them that they were in the right? Pfffffffffffffffftttt. I have some rather disgusting pictures of their handiwork if you don't believe me and I don't mind telling you they'd remind you very much of the AG.

You make many excellent points. Additionally, the muslims didn't hide what they planned on doing with Serbian Christians and they had already started. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The text below was published in October 1991 in the Bosnian * * magazine Vox. With permission from the book "The Eradication of * * of Serbs" that provided evidence that led to indictments at The * * Hague. Authenticity can be confirmed by writing to P.O. Box 163, * * CDN, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3S 2S5. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO SERBS IN THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF BOSNIA - HERZEGOVINA The day is nearing when the announced Islamic Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina will be proclaimed. The date which every Moslem in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Sandzak is ardently waiting for has been known for a long time to be the 31st December. There are some indications that Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina might oppose this historic event. In this connection, certain measures have been taken which will be applied if the Serb population of Bosnia-Herzegovina does not agree to this idea. 1. Every individual Serb must be aware of the responsibility of the entire nation for his uncontrolled actions; the penalty for crimes committed will be collective - for one demolished Moslem house, ten Serb houses will be demolished - for one dead Moslem, one hundred Serbs will be liquidated - for one wounded Moslem (depending on the severity of the wound) 10-15 Serbs. 2. All Serbs will have a 12-hour working day. Their wages will be proportionate to the loyalty of all the employees and as a rule they will be paid 30% less than the wages of Moslems who occupy the same post. 3. Serbs will have priority in the dismissal of redundant workers. 4. Serbs cannot enter public institutions without special passes. 5. Serbs will receive rations for food which they will obtain in special shops. 6. Serbs do not have national parties and if they do not abide by the rules of political life, they will not be entitled to political Organization or to vote. 7. In the Islamic Republic, the right of Serbs to produce alcohol will not be withdrawn, but Moslems are entitled to apply the Sheriat to all inhabitants of the state. 8. Serbs are equal to Moslems if, of their own will, they are received into the Islamic faith of their forefathers. No one has the right to refer to their previous life because they are not guilty for being Serbs. No generation is accountable for the actions of the previous one, or some other that preceded it. 9. A good Serb is a living and obedient Serb; or a dead, disobedient Serb.

BRAVO, an excellent post showing intelligence and great knowledge of the geopolitical situation, the history of the area and its geography. Pathetic to see people that should recognize the situation that Armenians are in in the situation the Serbs are in. The only reason Armenia didn't get the Serbia treatment is its close relationhip/alliance and position geographically close to Russia.

Very amusing Zareh, but an entirely invalid comparison. Especially coming from the number one defender of the jews/israel. Do tell us why the Hague is taking a major beating because ALL of their evidence against Milosevic and the Serbs is being handily shown for the total garbage and lies that it is and always will be? If you are so knowledgeable about the situation, do tell us what you know about the Ruder Finn fiasco. Only then will I accept that you have examined all of the evidence. I also expect to hear what you know about what is going on in the Hague.

Excuse me, but I tend to think that albanians belong in albania. That land the albanians are trying to steal is ancient ancestral Serbian land. It's albanians who have indulged in constant terrorism, anti-Serbian pogroms and wanton destruction, especially of Christian churches. The Serbs are just trying to survive and defend themselves. Obviously you need a history and geography lesson. You shouldn't be commenting on things you are unfamiliar with. So, no the Serbs did not act like israelis, israelis are on someone else's land and you might more appropriately call what the albanians are doing exactly like what the israelis are doing, ejecting the aborginal population. So when are these albanians going to face some consequences? Also, the albanians are acting exactly like the azerbaboons did on Armenian land, NK, and like the turks. In fact, albanians are turkic people. But you go right ahead and take their side, that seems to be where you belong. croats, albanians and bosian muslism are infected with genocidal turkish genes. Not the Serbs. And/or they are infected with the mental aberration known as islam. In the case of croats, it's false Catholicism.

Zionists, Turkey and Armenians: a story of taboos, distorted truth and unholy alliances Hagop Kassardjian The Daily Star, 7/2/03 The history of the Armenian genocide committed by the Turks (1894-1922) is taboo in official Israeli discourse. Evidence of this taboo is that in 1982 at the end of an international conference held in Tel Aviv on the theme of “collective genocide,” Israeli representatives withdrew from the conference as they disapproved of discussing the Armenian genocide. This shows the limits of Zionist thought and the extent to which the Israeli government will go to satisfy the Jewish lobby and its strategic ally, Turkey. However, other factors highlight the defensive nature of Israeli policy and the denial practised by the Israeli administration toward the Armenian genocide. After the Cold War, Armenians, ignored by Turkish and Jewish politicians, made common cause with Arab and Iranian interests. The Karabach conflict in South Caucasia between Armenia and Azerbaijan became an Azeri-Israeli issue. However, the Jewish community refuses any comparison between the Holocaust and other genocides, and denies the existence of the Armenian genocide. The Jewish-Turkish historic alliance is based on three main historical factors: l The weight of Jewish moral debts toward the Ottomans. Since 1461, after the fall of Andalusia, the Ottoman Empire introduced a policy of admission reserved for foreigners living in its territory. Jews fleeing Andalusia were absorbed into the Ottoman Empire and officially recognized under the Millet system. Other peoples were organized under the same system. The Millet system separated subjects into ethnic and religious groups, which enjoyed religious freedom and a certain amount of autonomy. The Armenians were part of this system. The Ottoman Jews were pioneers in the establishment of the Zionist entity in Palestine. They were the mediators between Zionism and the Ottoman Empire until the Balfour Declaration was signed in 1917. Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, was born in the multi-ethnic Austro-Hungarian Empire. Herzl’s time in France and the lessons he drew from the Dreyfus affair led him to propose a national territorial solution to the Jewish issue. In 1897, the World Zionist Organization was created at a congress in Basel, Switzerland, to represent the national aspirations of the Jews. l The roots of Zionist denial toward the Armenian cause date back to Article 61 of the 1878 Berlin Treaty. In Article 61, the Armenian issue was raised to international level (improving the situation of Armenians in Eastern Anatolia). It is true that international, regional and local powers supported reforms demanded by the Armenians. However, the apparent success of the internationalization of the Armenian cause had negative repercussions. It generated a feeling of malevolence and jealousy from other groups, mainly the Jews. The Jews insisted on reforms identical to those of Armenians. Jewish hostility toward the Armenians appeared between 1894 and 1896 during the Hamidiam Massacres when the Jews of Istanbul and other provinces betrayed Armenian rebels and fugitives. Herzl also dealt with Sultan Abdel-Hamid. Jewish colonization of Palestine was proposed in exchange for support against Armenian national aspirations. The Sultan refused to let foreign Jews colonize Palestine, but permitted Ottoman Jews to do so. l It was not until the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the Balfour Declaration of 1917 that Zionist political achievements started taking shape. Palestine was recognized as a “national home” for the Jews. Later, the Jewish-Turkish alliance was strengthened when Mustafa Kemal Ataturk came to power in Turkey. The close relationship between the Jews and the Turks was unaffected by the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Turkey was the first Muslim state to recognize the state of Israel after it was declared in 1948, and the Arab-Armenian-Iranian axis was formed to confront the Turkish-Zionist axis. The Turkish-Zionist partnership seeks the erosion of Arab nationalism, the denial of the Armenian cause and the weakening of Iranian zeal. In February 2002, Rebecca Cohen, an Israeli diplomat, said that “the Armenian people have been the victims of a terrible tragedy, not a collective genocide.” Such words distort the truth and were refuted by the Armenians, who reminded the Israelis that Armenians gave refuge to thousands of Jews who fled Nazi Germany. After the foundation of the Zionist state and the Turkish-Jewish alliance, the Armenian cause was used to the advantage of Zionists. “Turkification” is an ideology that mobilizes hatred against others (Arabs, Armenians) that stand in the way of their expansionist projects. The Zionist-Turkish alliance, embodied in military, economic, strategic and financial ties, bears proof of the two countries’ shared objectives. This alliance can only exist in conditions that are perceived as unjust by other groups, like the Palestinians, the innocent victims of this alliance. Hagop Kassardjian is a Beirut MP and a member of Prime Minister Rafik Hariri’s parliamentary Beirut Decision Bloc. He wrote this commentary for The Daily Star http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%...Kassardjian.htm

Who is this politician Goble? What do you know about him?

They should ignore it because all it is is muslim and jewish LIES. Never happened and there's tons of evidence it never happened. It's just like the turks who committed Genocide on Armenians, then accused Armenians of killing turks. These people NEVER change, always the same MO. I wanted to tell those idiots open up those coffins, I bet they're all empty. Most of those so-called victims are fighting in Iraq. Evidence that the Supposed Srebrenica Execution Video is a Lie Part 1 - What I'll prove and how I'll prove it. by Jared Israel EmperorТs Clothes [24 June 2005] ======================================================== [ www.tenc.net ] This month quite a few people have written or called concerning EmperorТs Clothes articles refuting the official line on Bosnia. They want to know if weТve changed our stance based on a video shown June 1st by prosecutor Jeffrey Nice during the Milosevic trial at The Hague. This video was introduced virtually unchallenged at The Hague and was subsequently accepted by almost all media as proof that Serbian forces did indeed massacre thousands of Muslims after re-capturing the Bosnian town of Srebrenica in 1995. One caller was shocked when I told him I thought the videoТs execution scene was staged. How could I believe that an official UN body (the Hague Tribunal) would condone fraud? I argued that, rather than assuming the video was credible because it was screened by a UN organization, we would do better to assess the TribunalТs credibility by examining the video and evaluating how the Tribunal handled it. Anyway, even if the Tribunal were legitimate, the video would constitute no more than the alleged evidence of one party in a dispute. It would need to be evaluated for authenticity, just like any other supposed evidence. And, said I, if the caller examined the footage he would see why I believe it is fraudulent... The caller answered that he had read all about the contents of the video in media reports, and anyway, he saw the thing on TV. But the callerТs trust had been abused. This is the first of a series of articles on the supposed Hague execution video. In the series I will explain how you may access the video, giving you the location of key pieces of footage. As you will see, the execution scene, as broadcast on leading TV networks, was not the same as what was shown at The Hague. The footage was altered (or further altered) to hide evidence that it is phony. We will examine the media reports about the video, contrasting them to what is actually seen in the Hague footage. I believe you will agree that the media has put out propaganda, not news, and you will understand more about how the public has been led to believe the Srebrenica massacre story despite the contradictory and absurd nature of the supposed evidence ========================================================= Contradictions and absurdities ========================================================= Here are a few examples to whet your appetite. In a story datelined June 2, (a day after The Hague screening) the Washington Post reported: УThe video begins with a Serb Orthodox priest blessing the camouflaged paramilitary troops in a boot camp in Bosnia...The video was shot by a member of the Scorpions.Ф [1] But, as you will see when we study the footage, there is no way of knowing where this first sequence was filmed or the identity of the people who appear in it or of the person or persons who did the filming. The Post neglects to mention this fact.Е In the final sequence, it seems that six men get shot. The Post describes them as Уscared Muslims.Ф But nothing indicates the menТs religion or state of mind. Indeed, they seem entirely unemotional. The LA Times informs us that the video appeared, УAs the 10th anniversary of the massacre of more than 7,000 Bosnian Muslims in Srebrenica approaches...Ф [2] Meaning that before the video was shown, the existence of a huge massacre at Srebrenica was a proven fact. But later in the same article, the Times tells us that УThe video has been greeted with a mixture of pain and relief by Bosnian Muslims, who see it as long-awaited proof of the [srebrenica] atrocities.Ф Meaning that, before the video was shown, the alleged massacre was NOT a proven fact. Indeed, this video is what supposedly provided Уthe long-awaited proof!Ф The pretzel-like character of this logic recalls Walter ScottТs wise warning, УOh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!Ф But thatТs not all. As we shall see, there is nothing in the Hague footage suggesting it was filmed in or near Srebrenica or that it was filmed in July of 1995, when, we are told, the alleged massacre took place. It could have been filmed in the mountains of Iowa. There are no mountains in Iowa? No problem; edit them in. You can do anything with film footage. And as for the time period when the supposed execution footage was filmed, there is nothing in it that answers that question. It could have been filmed whenever. So we have a video, which is hyped as an example of what happened during a massacre, which we are told definitely occurred, but whose existence was only proven by the appearance of this video, which however contains no indication of when or where it was filmed. Got it? On June 3rd, CNN broadcast what they claimed was The Hague footage. (Actually, it had been doctored, which is a case of gilding a lily...) CNN began their broadcast with a written warning, while a voice cautioned, УThis report contains graphic content and viewer discretion is advised.Ф Reuters called the video Уgruesome.Ф Agence France Presse called it Уsickening.Ф But as you will see, if the execution sequence were in fact believable, it would be far less gruesome than what we routinely watch on TV news. (For example, there is no blood; no screaming; no evidence that the alleged victims are actually hurt when shot with powerful automatic rifles at close range.) In any case, the execution footage is not believable. It is obviously staged, defying normal logic as well as the laws of physics and biology. We will look at a major Television broadcast of what is purported to be the Hague footage and you will see that the media has edited out the parts of the Hague original that show the video is a fake. In similar fashion, we will see that some news reports supposedly describing the video mention incidents that are not portrayed in the Hague footage! In other words, the media has made stuff up. We will examine the scene, mentioned in the New York Times and other media, in which we see what appears to be a Serbian Orthodox priest blessing the supposed villains. When the video was shown at The Hague, prosecutor Nice explained that his office put together the ten minute video from two hours of raw footage. We will ask: if Nice is telling the truth, and only 8 percent of the raw footage was used to make the final product, why did his office include this religious scene? What is the intended message? The mediaТs so-called УinformationФ about when and where the video footage was filmed and the identities of people we see in it, comes from a semi-coherent running commentary delivered by Prosecutor Jeffrey Nice while the footage was being shown at The Hague. Mr. NiceТs comments could have legal standing only if he were an eye witness to what is supposedly depicted in the video. But he is not. He is a prosecutor in the super-controversial Milosevic trial, and he is trying in that trial to prove the very things that he casually asserts during his commentary on the video, which however provides no evidence to support his assertions. So, more pretzel logic. We will examine the manner in which Mr. Nice introduced the video, during his cross examination of a defense witness on an issue totally unrelated to the content of the video. We will contrast what Nice did, and how the Hague judges responded, with the judicial rules governing the introduction of video evidence in court cases in the US and Canada. These rules are not petty technicalities; they are meant to guarantee the authenticity of raw video footage, and to prevent doctoring of this footage, precisely because it is so easy to do. The entire film industry is based on the creation of deceptive images, is it not? For example, in the recently released Star Wars sequel, the two lead characters seem to fight with lava flowing around them. In fact the scene is a carefully staged illusion; the actors probably never left the film studio. As we shall see, The HagueТs handling of the supposed execution video has been a travesty. We will take a short look at the past actions of Natasa Kandic, credited in the media with providing Mr. Nice with the footage supposedly used to create the video. We will see that Ms. Kandic has made her living producing fraudulent evidence of supposed Serbian crimes. What does this track record suggest concerning the critical rule that, in handling supposed video evidence, the prosecution in a criminal proceeding must keep the strictest records to prove that the footage has not fallen into the hands of anyone who might falsify it? I think you will see that the facts concerning this video and how it was introduced during the Milosevic proceedings support my charge that The Hague Tribunal is not a court at all. Rather it is part of a machine which has targeted the Serbs because, in the words, of former German foreign minister Klaus Kinkel, УSerbia must be forced to its knees!Ф [3] I think after studying this material, you will agree that The Hague has, as part of its raison raison dТкtre, the task of providing the media with anti-Serb propaganda, enhanced with the stamp of UN credibility. - To be continued in Part 2 - Jared Israel Editor, EmperorТs Clothes

You may or may not know that Wiesel's book was a BIG LIE. Just like the jewish adventures of WWII. He is one of the vast majority of his tribe trying to maintain shoa business despite all the lies and they sure don't want any competition. Do we know you from elsewhere? Welcome.