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Anyone know its schedule on PBS, I just checked the Boston one and looks like they are going to show a different one

I have an online business and I deal with cyberlaw everyday, for this I have a very strong legal team of experienced lawyers in various fields, I can certainly bring this issue with them, but first I will have to know on what grounds or how we can do this, any ideas?

AFP A private television station will broadcast a controversial movie on the massacres of Armenians during World War I for the first time in Turkey where the subject still arouses nationalist feelings, a spokesman for the channel said Wednesday. Kanalturk decided to show "Ararat" by Canadian director Atom Egoyan, an ethnic Armenian, after a survey of viewers revealed that 72 percent of the participants wanted to see the film, the spokesman said. "We will show the movie with no cuts or censoring," he added. The film's showing, at prime time on Thursday, will be followed by a roundtable discussion by Turkish and Armenian intellectuals and historians on the killings during the last years of the Ottoman Empire, the predecessor of Turkey. Even though the Turkish government gave the go-ahead for the showing of the film, which was released in 2002, an Istanbul company was forced in 2004 to drop plans to screen the movie because of potential protests that would have required police presence in theatres. Turks have only recently begun to discuss the Armenian massacres between 1915 and 1917, one of the most controversial episodes in Turkish history. Egoyan's film deals with the estranged members of a contemporary Armenian family, who are faced with both Turkey's denial of genocide and their own individual plight.

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HUNGARIAN COURT TO ISSUE VERDICT APRIL 13 ON AZERBAIJANI CHARGED WITH KILLING ARMENIAN Palma Benczenleitner AP Worldstream Apr 04, 2006 A verdict will be issued April 13 in the case of an Azerbaijani officer accused of murdering an Armenian classmate at a NATO training course in Hungary, a court said Tuesday. Lt. Ramil Safarov of Azerbaijan has confessed to using an ax in February 2004 to hack Lt. Gurgen Markarian of Armenia to death, authorities said, in a dormitory that was being used by participants of a NATO Partnership for Peace English language course in Budapest. At the time, police said the murder was committed with "unusual cruelty" and that Safarov had tried, unsuccessfully, to enter the room of another Armenian with the intention of killing him. Police said that Safarov confessed to the killing, claiming that the long-standing conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia was at the root of his act. The two neighboring, former Soviet republics remain at odds over the status of Nagorno-Karabakh, an ethnic Armenian enclave within Azerbaijan. At Tuesday's hearing, prosecutors asked that Safarov be sentenced to life in prison, with a 30-year minimum before any parole hearings. The Budapest City Court rejected a defense request for a new expert opinion to determine Safarov's mental health. Four earlier examinations already declared him mentally stable and accountable for his actions. "(Safarov's) actions were not guided by hatred, but by the trauma which remains," said his lawyer Gyorgy Magyar, referring to the feud between the two countries. The court said Safarov would make his final statement on April 13, the day of his sentencing. Armenian-backed forces drove Azerbaijan's army out of the ethnic Armenian enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh in the early 1990s. A 1994 cease-fire ended the six-year war that killed 30,000 people and left about 1 million homeless and the enclave is now under the control of ethnic Armenians.

By Garen Yegparian We haven't had this much Turkish fun in the LA basin for a while. I suppose the Turkish government had forgotten where the victims of its genocidal policies reside in large numbers. We of course demonstrated outside the Beverly Hills Hilton where Turkish Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul was addressing the Los Angeles World Affairs Council. But other than observing that participation seemed low, I can't speak to how well it went since I was inside being amused by the 'turkey-du-jour' Gonul. He is presumably intelligent and competent at what he does, but it was not in evidence that day. His English seemed reasonably solid, but slow in coming forth. His speech was prepared and he read it in a painfully obvious, tedious way, with an occasional live joke thrown in. He wasn't even able to get through the whole of it. Besides omitting portions of his comments about Iraq, he conveniently consumed the allotted time and left Caucasus and Artsakh issues out along with Central Asia. Nothing about Armenia of any substance was part of his presentation. You'd think we didn't exist (in his wishful thinking). So what did he say? Much of it seemed somewhat general, though he did cite statistics about Turkey's expenditures in the realm of defense, with specifics focusing on purchases from the US and Israel. He emphasized Turkey's "even-handedness" in dealing with Israel-Palestine issues. Turkey's role in NATO was trumpeted to such a degree that the casual listener might think it founded the defense pact and single-handedly kept it alive. He took cheap shots at Syria and other neighbors, pointing out that of 18 current conflicts 13 are in Turkey's neighborhood. This brings us to items of greater specific interest to Armenians. If so many conflicts are in its neighborhood, doesn't that suggest that Turkey is a cause of instability? Not according to good ole Vecdi. You see Turkey is a net "exporter" of security since 6149 personnel from 58 countries have participated in programs at the NATO Partnership for Peace Center established 1998 in Ankara. Translation: Turkey gets to wine and dine these folks in an attempt to win itself friends--and much of it at others' expense. Isn't that a great deal? In addition, "peace at home, peace in the world" is paradigmatic in Turkey (and for Gonul personally--sniffle, I am so touched) as stated by Ataturk, the magnificent peacemaker. Terrorism, the catchall word for the Bush regime and its cohort of cronies and fawners, was prominently on display. Turkey (imagine violins playing) really understands what the US is going through after the September 11 attacks since it's been at war with terrorists (sic: Kurds justly seeking statehood) for 20 years at the cost of 32,000 lives. Gonul ended his presentation with inane niceties and remarks clearly intended to kiss-up to American powers that be, an overabundance of the standard, fatuous fluff that attends such presentations by representatives of countries groveling to be in Washington's good graces. It only got more ridiculous during the question and answer session, but more revealing. In the context of a response to a question about Iran, Gonul referred to Iraq as having been "part of our country." The only time that applied was during the Ottoman Empire (OE). So he clearly admits that the OE and Turkey are integral from the perspective of statehood, in this case successively. So much for arguments that the Genocide was committed by a "different" country. Two questions of direct Armenian interest were posed. An elderly woman asked, in the kindest, most non-aggressive way imaginable, why Turkey refused to simply acknowledge the history of 1915. His response, "We are thinking there is nothing to acknowledge." Then he told of being from "Eastern Turkey" and half his father's family being massacred by Armenians. He also tried without ever making a clear point, to play divide-and-conquer by claiming there exist three types of Armenians: "our Armenians, Armenians in Ermenistan, and Armenians living all over the world." He then proceeded to describe how Armenians and Turks lived happily side-by-side until 1878 when part of the OE was lost to the Russian Empire. In this remark, he built on an earlier theme about how Turkey, continuing the policies of the OE, practiced multiculturalism, just as in the US (please hold your laughter 'til later). Then, the Russians trained young Armenians to hate Turks. When WWI commenced, these 'Turk-hating' Armenians returned to the OE and starting killing Turks. In response, the Turkish Army killed Armenians. Again, it's interesting that the Defense Minister confesses it was the army, an organ of the state, which did the killing. I told you it got more ridiculous. Can you picture a bunch of 50-60 year old Armenians running around in Turkish occupied Armenia, during WWI, mass-murdering Turks? This guy and his ilk ought to try their hand at stand-up comedy! Here, a fed-up outburst from the audience pointed out Gonul's lies. The participant was even threatened with removal. The second Armenian question asked the minister what happened, in 1915, to the Armenian part of the mosaic of cultures and religions he'd claimed during his presentation constituted the OE. Here, the dangers of reading a speech prepared by someone else manifested. Gonul was clueless as to what "mosaic" meant. The question was repeated. Then the MC repeated it as he did with all the questions. Yet Gonul continued his fumbling. He asked what a "museum" had to do with the discussion. Finally, a man approached and clarified it for him, presumably in Turkish. He looked like a complete fool. It was pleasing. When he finally did respond, he claimed 152 nationalities and religious groups lived happily together until the West attacked and awoke the Christian population. Not that he claimed there were no killings, you see. Then he described having an Armenian "aunt"--I guess it's all the rage these days in Turkey to claim an Armenian relative, which in straight talk would be known as a Genocide survivor. And many Armenian boys were orphaned, and went to military schools and now live happily in the mosaic. Yup, believe it or not, his response was as disjointed as the last few sentences. Throughout Minister Gonul's presentation, I was taking notes. One of the Turks at my table kept eyeing me nervously, wondering why. It was a great pleasure to observe his uneasiness. Meanwhile, his friend was busy regaling the woman sitting beside him with the glories of Turkish tourism. Isn't it great to usurp others' legacies, use it to make money and cover up your crimes against those very same people? When all is taken into account, we can only say "Thank you Mr. Gonul, thank you Turkey. Please send him to visit us more often." He's one of the best things for Armenians and others with grievances against Turkey, reminiscent of former Ambassador Sukru Elekdag, the boxer turned diplomat and his "masterful" mouthings. All subscription inquiries and changes must be made through the proper carrier and not Asbarez Online. ASBAREZ ONLINE does not transmit address changes and subscription requests. © 2006 ASBAREZ ONLINE. All Rights Reserved. ASBAREZ provides this news service to ARMENIAN NEWS NETWORK members for academic research or personal use only and may not be reproduced in or through mass media outlets.

didn't they get massacred by them too?

lets hope this money reaches where it should

very well said, I totally support you Fasthye, probably most of the Armenians do not even participate in any events during April 24, so any action to make our voices heard is good.

I got it from ANN/Groong, there are several articles about this on their website

British Military Museum Presents Exhibits on Armenian Genocide PanARMENIAN.Net 18.03.2006 20:55 GMT+04:00 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Crimes against Humanity section of the London Military Museum shows exhibits, which tell about atrocities during the Armenian Genocide in 1915. The Museum also presents documents on violence in the USSR during the Stalin period, Anadolu information agency reports, adding visitors can get additional information on the materials in the Museum via the Internet.

French and Turkish protesters clash in demo crash Reuters AlertNet, UK March 18 2006 Source: Reuters LYON, France, March 18 (Reuters) - French youths protesting against a new employment law ended up in an unexpected clash with Turks demonstrating against an Armenian memorial when their separate marches crossed paths in this eastern city on Saturday. Riot police used water cannon to separate the two groups after about 2,500 Turks opposed to the construction of a memorial in the city centre to Armenian victims of a 1915 massacre attacked the demonstrating youths, police said. The Turks, waving Turkish flags and holding up posters saying "There was no Armenian genocide," reacted after youths denounced them as "fascists" and yelled "go home!", police said. Both sides pelted each other with missiles and engaged in fist fights, they said, adding that some youths protesting the employment law were apparently of Armenian origin. Turkey rejects charges that it massacred 1.5 million Armenians living in the then Ottoman Empire in 1915. Many of the survivors fled to France, which now has an influential Armenian minority of about 300,000. After a long campaign by them, the French parliament passed a bill in 1998 officially recognising the killing as genocide. The protest against the new employment law was one of many marches across France on Saturday aimed at putting pressure on the Paris government to withdraw the measure that allows employers to fire workers under 26 more easily. The conservative government introduced the law to encourage reluctant employers to take on new staff and help combat unemployment, which among young people is double the national average of 9.6 percent.

it's from an anti-Azeri demonstration on February 28 in Yerevan

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They bring up Sam Weems (who is a retired "industrial development specialist" working in a small Arkansas town, a disbarred lawyer and a convicted felon and had a Turkish wife) as their source? What other real historians support their thesis? http://www.aaainc.org/press/release.php?pressID=142

COURT RECOGNIZES RAMIL SAFAROV AS SANE Noyan Tapan Armenians Today Mar 07 2006 BUDAPEST, MARCH 7, NOYAN TAPAN - ARMENIANS TODAY. Azerbaijani officer Ramil Safarov, who is charged with murder of Armenian officer Gurgen Margarian, was recogniized as sane at the regular court sitting in Budapest, Radio Liberty reported. Lawyer Nazeli Vardanian who defends the interests of the Margarian family told during an interview to Radio Liberty that after hearing the testimonies of two Hungarian witnesses and the conclusion of the fourth expert, the court dismissed all the petitions of Safarov's defence to call new witnesses to court, and based on the first expert's conclusion about Safarov's being sane at the moment of committing the crime, court decided that there is enough information for the final conclusion of the prosecution and defence sides. The prosecution and defence speeches, as well as the final word of the accused will be heard at the next sitting to be held on April 4. The court ruling will be made public on April 13. According to Nazeli Vardanian, since no changes were made in charges brought against the accused during the trial, in accordance with the Criminal Code of Hungary and based on the charges, Ramil Safarov may be sentenced to 8-15 years' or life imprisonment.

Thats a very pessimistic view QueBeceR I agree somewhat with you that recognition by Turkey will not happen soon, but I am confident United States will soon recognize it, coming from the fact that our lobby in Washington is growing stronger every year.

by Christian Henderson in Yerevan, Armenia Aljazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FCD...44DBAA1DF18.htm Saturday 04 March 2006 11:55 PM GMT What Armenia lacks in size and diplomatic muscle it makes up for in the strength of its four million Diaspora. Coming from often prosperous communities in Europe, the US and the Middle East, the Armenian Diaspora have started to visit their homeland in increasing numbers since the country declared independence from the Soviet Union in 1991. Many holiday in the country and explore their roots, but increasing numbers are buying property and investing in Armenian markets. Some Armenians have moved permanently to the country. This year the Armenian government says it will push through a constitutional amendment that will allow its citizens to hold dual citizenship, paving the way for the Diaspora to start applying for Armenian citizenship. Armenia is a landlocked country with scant natural resources and closed borders with two of its neighbours, Turkey and Azerbaijan. Armenia fought a bloody war with Azerbaijan between 1991 and 1994 over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh territory, which lies to the south east of the country and extends into Azerbaijan. Armenia's biggest assets In light of the country's vulnerable position bordering several conflict areas, Armenians know that the Diaspora is one of the country's biggest assets. "I think the Diaspora has always played a big role in Armenia," said an American-Armenian who lives in Yerevan and works as an adviser to companies investing in the country. "A lot of people really do want to help build the country so they come here with a little more than the typical tourist. That's one of the leading edges of the economy," he said on condition of anonymity. But as the numbers of returning Armenians increase there are questions over how Armenia's political elite will react to the prospect of granting a well organised Diaspora voting rights in a country still recovering from Soviet one-party rule. "We have only 15 years of experience of this multi-party system and our parties are mainly based around single issues or single personalities," said Anush Begoyan, a researcher who works with local NGOs. "Well Dashnaktsutyun (the largest Diaspora political party) have big ideas and they have a certain political platform. They know how to influence people. So in terms of political capacity they are very strong," she added. Diaspora influence While Armenians lived under communism followed by a period of conflict with neighbouring Azerbaijan, the Diaspora community prospered and organised itself abroad. For local Armenians, this raises concerns that the influence of the Diaspora on domestic politics could push the country to take militant stances it cannot sustain. Central to both Diaspora and domestic politics are the events of 1915 in which Armenians say there was genocide of more than a million of their kin in modern-day Turkey. Turkey, however, denies the genocide and describes the events of 1915 as a civil war between Turks and Armenians. "I think we should be careful about allowing the diasporas to have too much of a say in the running of the country when they will not really be affected by the policies they decide on," said Levon Zourabian, a political analyst. "Many of them come from Western Armenia which is now in Turkey and would like to see their historic motherland restored. However, if they impose their demands for redrawing the borders with Turkey as state policy then I think this would be very dangerous for Armenia," he said. Dual citizenship risks Others say the dual citizenship laws could allow other countries to manipulate Armenian politics. There are 2.5 million Armenians living in Russia and there are fears they would advance Moscow's agenda if they were allowed to vote in Armenia. Armenian economists are also wary of the influence the Diaspora will have on the local markets. Most of the investments coming from outside the country are injected into real estate markets, which could raise prices beyond the means of many locals. A visitor to the centre of the Armenian capital, Yerevan, is met by all the signs of a nascent economic boom. Cranes erect a brand new street of luxury apartments and offices, well-heeled youngsters shop for pricey brands and Range Rovers and the occasional Hummer cruise by. However, this affluence does not extend further than the boundaries of the city centre. But despite the potential problems many Armenians see the return of the Diaspora as an exciting opportunity to piece together different elements of Armenian culture that have been fragmented over the years. "I think the Armenian nation is going through a period of healing," said the American-Armenian investment adviser living in Yerevan said. He believes such a period will take on a new pace once the international community recognises the 1915 genocide and the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is resolved. "I think there is going to be a new enthusiasm people are going to look for a new way of being able to define being Armenian," he said.

what about after the U.S. does, don't you think they will follow?

So we have UK and USA left, after that the show begins

debating about the Genocide is by all means wrong, it opens the doors for denialists. Look what happens to the Holocaust denialists, they go to jail, no questions asked.

U.S. PUBLIC TELEVISION AFFILIATE DECIDES NOT TO AIR PANEL ON DISPUTED ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AP Worldstream Mar 01, 2006 A public broadcasting station has decided not to air a panel discussion that includes speakers who say that the killing of more than 1 million Armenians in the 20th century was genocide. The taped discussion, which was scheduled to run April 17 on WNET-TV in New York, was criticized by elected officials and Armenian-American community leaders, who called it an insult. But a spokeswoman for the PBS affiliate said Tuesday's decision had nothing to do with politics. "It was an editorial decision," said Stella Giammasi, vice president and director of communications at WNET, Channel 13. The program was to follow a new documentary, "Armenian Genocide," which features interviews with Kurdish and Turkish citizens speaking about their families' experiences during the period and will air as scheduled. After screening the discussion, Giammasi said, WNET officials determined it "did not add anything to the documentary." A PBS spokeswoman said it was up to its 348 affiliates to decide whether to carry a show. Armenians say that Ottoman Turks killed 1.5 million Armenians in a planned genocide around the time of World War I, while Turkey denies the claim. The panel included Omer Turan, who teaches history at Middle East Technical University in Ankara, Turkey, and said he believed many innocent people on both sides died. "However, I cannot accept to name it as Armenian genocide," he said in an e-mail.

VP of PBS Should Be Dismissed For Insulting Armenians P of PBS Should Be Dismissed For Insulting Armenians By Harut Sassounian Publisher, The California Courier March 3, 2006 Up until now, I had refrained from blaming any one individual at PBS for the unwise decision to air a debate with deniers of the Armenian Genocide, immediately after the broadcast of Andrew Goldberg's documentary, The Armenian Genocide, on April 17. Regrettably, I must now single out Jacoba Atlas, the Senior Vice President of PBS programming, not only for being responsible for this misguided decision, but also for insulting Armenians worldwide by stating that the Armenian Genocide "is not entirely analogous" to the Jewish Holocaust. In response to a letter from Steve Dadaian, the Chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America, Western Region, Atlas wrote: "You and others have likened our decision to following a documentary on the genocide of Jews during WW II with a panel of Holocaust deniers. With all due respect, the comparison is not entirely analogous. Germany has fully accepted responsibility for the Holocaust, paid reparations, made apologies, met with survivors and teaches about it in its schools. As you know, this is not the case with the Armenian genocide. Turkey’s official position on this chapter of history is a key part of the controversy that the documentary and the panel discussion seek to examine." Since when does PBS take its programming cues from oppressive governments? In terms of Turkish acknowledgement, Ms. Atlas is probably not aware that in an interview published in the August 1, 1926 issue of the Los Angeles Examiner, Kemal Ataturk admitted that the Young Turks had massacred "millions of [their] Christian subjects." She may not also know that the Turkish Military Tribunal in 1919 sentenced to death in absentia the masterminds of the Armenian Genocide. How many times Turkish leaders and Turkish courts must acknowledge the Armenian Genocide before Ms. Atlas is satisfied that the Armenian Genocide and the Jewish Holocaust are "analogous?" Ms. Atlas owes an apology to the Armenian American community for providing a national platform to genocide deniers and stating that the Armenian Genocide is not "analogous" to the Holocaust. Should she fail to apologize and cancel the offensive panel questioning the Armenian Genocide, PBS management should then dismiss her from her position. American taxpayers should not pay the salary of someone who besmirches the memory of the victims of genocide and insults their descendants. Notably, while Ms. Atlas is stubbornly clinging to her anti-Armenian Genocide stance, another Jewish American, Cong. Anthony Weiner (D-NY), was joining Armenian demonstrators outside the studios of WNET/13 (the PBS affiliate in New York City) last Saturday to protest the station’s planned airing of the genocide debate. The Associated Press and Newsday (NY) quoted Cong. Weiner as saying that the inclusion of genocide-deniers on the panel "is an insult to the history of that time." This is the first such demonstration held against a PBS station on this issue. In other major developments on the PBS controversy since last week: -- The New York Times published on Feb. 25 a lengthy article titled: "Armenian Furor over PBS Plan for Debate." The article referred to this writer as the "first [to] spread word of the petitions and protests against the panel." -- Congressmen Adam Schiff (D-CA), George Radanovich (R-CA), Armenian Caucus Co-Chairmen Frank Pallone (D-NJ) and Joe Knollenberg (R-MI) asked all members of the House of Representatives to sign a joint letter expressing their opposition to the PBS panel discussion. It is expected that many of the 150 members of the Congressional Caucus on Armenian Issues would sign this letter. The Caucus makes up more than one-third of the entire House, a significant number when the time comes to allocate funding to PBS. "A commitment to balance does not mandate the inclusion of opinions that are objectively false," the congressional letter said. "Doing so only promotes the propagation of false and misleading views and undermines the credibility of PBS." -- The Glendale News Press published an article on Feb. 22 titled: "Armenian Genocide Panel Protested." -- Two Turkish newspapers (Turkish Daily News and Zaman) and an Azeri newspaper (Echo) published articles on this controversy last week. -- During the daily press briefing at the State Department on Feb. 24, a journalist asked Adam Ereli, the Deputy Spokesman of the State Department, about "the position of the U.S. Government" on the PBS controversy. Mr. Ereli’s response was: "You can watch whatever you want to watch." -- Several PBS stations announced last week that they would not air the offensive panel discussion, following the broadcast of the Goldberg documentary. -- The world famous rock band System of a Down supported the campaign against the PBS panel by posting a link to the ANCA’s online Webmail on its website, www.systemofadown.com and placed a link to the online petition on a second website: http://www.axisofjustice.org/feature_022106.htm. -- KCET, the PBS station in the Los Angeles area, decided to air in April two genocide documentaries: The U.S. premiere of French filmmaker Laurence Jourdan’s "Le Genocide Armenien" and Canadian-Armenian Hagop Goudsouzian’s "My Son Shall be Armenian." KCET designated the month of April as "Armenian Remembrance Month." -- Nearly 15,000 individuals have so far signed the online petition asking PBS not to broadcast the panel discussion. Meanwhile, the copycat Turkish petition is full of thousands of anti-Armenian hate messages, profanities, fake and unauthorized names, including those of people long dead, such as Ataturk and Talaat. -- More than 3,500 protest e-mails have been sent to Ms. Atlas through the ANCA’s online Webmail. -- Several Armenian organizations and web groups have placed the link to the online petition on their websites and have sent e-mails to their members urging them to sign the petition. I suggest the following actions in order to continue the pressure on PBS to do the right thing: 1. Sign the online petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/pbspanel and forward the link to others. 2. Send an e-mail to Jacoba Atlas at Jatlas@pbs.org urging her not to provide airtime to genocide deniers. Forward her e-mail address to others asking them to write to her also. 3. Ask Armenian organizations post the link to the online petition on their websites and to send an e-mail to their members urging them to sign the petition and to e-mail Ms. Atlas. 4. Ask your Member of Congress to sign the joint congressional letter to PBS. 5. Contact your local PBS station and urge them not to broadcast the panel discussion. Go to www.pbs.org/stationfinder, enter your zip code and click next. When you see the logo of your local station, click next again. 6. Contact the PBS stations in Chicago and New York City (WNET) urging them to cancel their decision to air the panel discussion.