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Armavia said 26 Russians, one Ukrainian and one Georgian were among the passengers. The rest were Armenian citizens.

I knew something like this is bound to happen with those old planes that are never maintained properly, everyone is looking out of their pockets

now they say 114 passengers were on board http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060503/ap_on_...sia_plane_crash

on the night of May 3 a Yerevan-Sochi flight of Armavia national carrier crashed in the Black Sea 6 km away from Adler airport killing all of 113 people aboard, including 6 children and 8 crewmembers. Among them were 26 Russian citizens, one Ukrainian and one Georgian citizen, while the rest of the passengers were Armenian citizens.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush, Turkish writer Orhan Pamuk, Chinese environmentalist Ma Jun, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and hip hop renaissance man Sean "Puffy" Combs have made Time magazine's list of the year's 100 most influential people. In a series of essays, some written by celebrities, Time lauded a few people for the second time in the three years since the list began. The repeats were Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former President Bill Clinton, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates and NBC morning news anchor Katie Couric, who will soon jump to the CBS evening news. Bush, despite high disapproval ratings and an unpopular war, is "already assured a large place in history," Time wrote. Sean Combs, whom designer Vivienne Tam described in her essay as "a force of nature," is a product of Harlem who began as a rapper and grew into a producer, clothing designer and philanthropist. East German physicist Angela Merkel, Germany's first woman chancellor, "now boasts stratospheric approval ratings, and the improvement in the German economy is commonly put down to the 'Merkel effect,"' Time wrote. Time also praised writer Orhan Pamuk, who was forced to leave Turkey for a while in 2005 because of his book "My Name is Red." In the novel, he "pointedly criticized his country's all-too-willful historical blind spots," genocide of Armenians in 1915 and suppression of Turkey's Kurdish minority. Former journalist Ma Jun wrote "China's Water Crisis" (1999), which "may be for China what Rachel Carson's 'Silent Spring' was for the U.S., the country's first great environmental call to arms." The list also dipped into popular culture. Wildly popular U.S. cooking show host Rachael Ray has inspired working people to "eschew the trap of fast-food facility and truly cook -- even the easy fast stuff -- at home." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060430/people_nm/life_time_dc

exactly vava, very well said, The sooner we all realize this the closer we will be to victory.

listen, all I am saying is that the energy and time you spend blaming Jews for all our problems you can spend to go forward. You are saying just because of two days the Jewish jewelry stores were open, all the other ones went out of business? That is ridiculous, the reason we went out of business because we never help eacht other, we are always jelous of each other and never can unite. Jews however are the total opposite, so when the time comes and we learn to do all those things, then maybe we can achieve the success and power that Jews have here in this country.

Take a look at how McCarthy and his friend got owned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlwTc3r1Tcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH8JJvNfRPI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaQdT7Ehxr8

so why are you blaming Jews, blame us for not being as smart as them lol

President Bush himself called it as a "Genocide", doesn't this automatically mean that U.S. should intervene? It is amazing it has been 91 years since the Armenian Genocide, and governments still hesitate to do something about it.

I was there and I even posted a few videos in another thread. Overall, I did not see any of those things that the article mentioned, Chuck Schumer even referred to the AG as the Armenian Holocaust. I agree Israel Charny's speech went a little off topic, but still he made very valid points, actually he is the president of the International Association of Genocide Scholars and they all affirm the AG, isn't this enough, do we still need to bad mouth him? Anyways, this Jew-hating bs needs to stop, we have to face it, they have a powerful lobby, powerful friends in Washington and have a big say in the media, so instead of showing anti-Semitic sentiments, we should show friendship, when will Armenians understand this? The minute they do, we will start winning! Here are the videos: Chuck Schumer's speech Frank Pallone's speech

sorry then

I don't think it is wise to make anti-Semitic comments on a Jewish message board, especially when Turks are there, you don't want Turks to come out as the good guys

BAKU RUBBISHES TURKISH WEBSITE REPORT AzerNews Weekly, Azerbaijan April 27 2006 Azerbaijan will launch an attack on Armenia in the coming days, a Turkish report has said. Azerbaijani officials have dismissed it as groundless. Turkish hurhaber.com website quoted diplomatic sources as saying that the Azeri government has made serious preparations for liberating Upper (Nagorno) Garabagh from occupation and that Baku has passed a decision to restart hostilities. Armenia has occupied 20% of Azeri territory in defiance of international law since the war broke out in the early 1990s which has claimed thousands of lives and displaced 700,000 of Azeris from their homes. The report linked the expanding US-Azeri relations to the military action to be waged in Garabagh, saying that US President George Bush welcomes the idea of launching military action. The website also indicated that the operations would affect the oil price. Armenian Foreign Minister Vardan Oskanian said the Garabagh conflict could not be settled through war, which is confirmed by EU representatives. "Military action by Azerbaijan may become its last mistake," he said when commenting on the Turkish site's report in a news conference held jointly with Austrian Foreign Ministry Secretary of State Hans Vinkler. "Azerbaijan may restart war only when all hope for peace is gone. However, the Azeri leadership can't make this decision on its own," Oskanian said. Oskanian added that Armenia would closely follow the talks on the Garabagh conflict to be held during President Ilham Aliyev's upcoming visit to Washington. Armenian Defense Minister Serzh Sarkisian could not help voicing his concerns over Azerbaijan's warnings about the resumption of military action and the country's growing military expenditure. "We are not afraid of war but don't want it to flare up. An agreement [ceasefire] on ending hostilities was reached in 1994 with Russia's mediation. Our troops have already taken preeminent defense positions and we have been invigorating our positions with engineering facilities over the past 12 years," he said. He said the Caucasus is a very small area, which makes regional countries dependent on each other. "For this reason, a resumption of military action could bring about negative consequences for us," the Armenian defense chief said. Sarkisian claimed that Azerbaijan's statements that its military spending has doubled are nothing but "blackmail". Former Armenian foreign minister Alexander Arzumanian said he does not expect any drastic changes in the conflict resolution. "However, considering Azerbaijan's statements made following the two presidents' meeting in the French town of Rambouillet, it is not ruled out that this country may resume military operations." Azerbaijan threatened to use force to free its territories from Armenian occupation after the latest unsuccessful round of talks between the two countries' leaders. The Azeri Defense Ministry spokesman, Ilgar Verdiyev, said the report contradicts reality and peace talks are underway. The Foreign Ministry official, Tahir Taghizada, declined to comment on such "rubbish" published by the Turkish site. He said Azerbaijan is still adhering to a peaceful option to resolve the dispute, but warned that the Azeri people's patience was not boundless and the country "won't negotiate for the sake of negotiating". If the talks yield no fruit, Azerbaijan reserves the right to regain its lands no matter what it takes, Taghizada said. The outgoing US ambassador to Azerbaijan, Reno Harnish, said on Friday it was necessary to get rid of the military rhetoric to resolve the long-standing dispute. "A resumption of hostilities in the Caucasus could completely destroy the region." The diplomat said the negotiations to settle the conflict had intensified over the past two years. "Tangible results have been achieved in agreeing the principles of a fair and lasting peace," Harnish said, adding that Washington would continue to do its utmost to accomplish the goal

For monthly income up to 80,000 drams, the rate is 10 per cent; for monthly income greater than 80,000 drams, the rate is 8,000 drams plus 20 per cent of the amount exceeding 80,000 drams You are right, but this is absurd, one tax rate for people making over 80k drams, which is roughly $180. This is so messed up, so a person can make $200k a month and pay 20% and make $180/month and pay the same percentage.

Dodi Gago's first-quarter contribution to the state treasury stood at just 350 million drams ($790,000) He makes millions, thats it???

It is just this whole conflict with Iran is making Armenia look bad and Azerbaijan good. Armenia has good relations with Iran, America might single out Armenia or put pressure on us. Azerbaijan on the other hand has more of an advantage, they are more pro-U.S.A. and there are about 25 million Azeris living in Iran, which the U.S. can use to its advantage.

Check it out, this Turk, "Khazar" does not stop with his hate towards Armenia and Armenians in general http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthrea...?t=10055&page=7

how do you think the Iran-U.S. conflict will be resolved then?

What do you think will happen to Armenia?

Every Turks I spoke to about the Genocide, all quote McCarthy and Lewy, like they are gods to them. The thing I do not understand they are not even genocide scholars, why would anyone take their biased opinion seriously, it was also shown that they received grants from various Turkish organizations

I was at the NYC Genocide rally, which unfortunately was held at St. Vartan's church because of the rain. A lot of influential people spoke, Senator Chuck Schumer, Frank Pallone, John Corzine, Israel Charny (president of the International Association of Genocide Scholars), Andrew Goldberg and many others. Here are two videos from the rally: Chuck Schumer's speach Frank Pallone's speech

at least he aknowledges the 1.5 million number

Armenian Assembly of America 1140 19th Street, NW, Suite 600 Washington, DC 20036 Phone: 202-393-3434 Fax: 202-638-4904 Email: info@aaainc.org Web: www.armenianassembly.org PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 24, 2006 CONTACT: Christine Kojoian E-mail: ckojoian@aaainc.org BUSH SAYS WORLD MUST NOT FORGET AVOIDS USING PROPER TERM OF GENOCIDE IN ANNUAL APRIL 24 STATEMENT WASHINGTON, DC - In his annual April 24th commemoration statement, President Bush described the "mass killings" and "exile" of 1.5 million Armenians noting that this was a "tragedy for all humanity and one that we and the world must never forget." The statement was delivered following strongly worded letters from more than 200 House and Senate leaders last week, asking the President to properly acknowledge the genocide in his annual statement. "While the President once again employed the dictionary definition of Genocide, we are deeply disappointed that he did not properly characterize the attempted annihilation of our people as genocide," said Assembly Board of Trustees Chairman Hirair Hovnanian. "The President had an opportunity to build on his 2000 campaign statement as well as the words of President Ronald Reagan who properly acknowledged the Armenian Genocide," Hovnanian continued. During the Assembly's pan-Armenian advocacy conference last month, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Daniel Fried laid out the Administration's position on the Armenian Genocide, noting that the Administration has "a policy which many of you disagree with," but also stated that "the United States government has never denied the events of 1915." Fried also called on "Turkey to reflect more seriously about subjects which have been taboo for generations in that country." He added: "We do not support...export of denialist literature or positions. We do support efforts by Turkey to deal with its history more seriously." "Today, as we mark the 91st anniversary of these crimes, genocide deniers continue their morally bankrupt campaign against the truth as evidenced by the recent federal lawsuit initiated in the state of Massachusetts," said Executive Director Bryan Ardouny. "In the face of this ongoing denial, the United States must make a firm stand for the truth," Ardouny continued. Bush's statement, as in years past, encourages dialogue between Turks and Armenians and states that "The analysis by the International Center for Transitional Justice (ICTJ), while not the final word, has made a significant contribution toward deepening our understanding of these Events." The ICTJ report, issued in 2003, reached the conclusion that: "The Events, viewed collectively, can thus be said to include all of the elements of the crime of genocide as defined in the Convention, and legal scholars as well as historians, politicians, journalists and other people would be justified in continuing to so describe them." The President's reference to ICTJ serves as an implicit acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide. The Administration has clarified its policy on the crime of genocide and recently stated its views on the need to prevent its repetition. The President's National Security Strategy (NSS), which was released last month, notes that "the world needs to start honoring a principle that many believe has lost its force in parts of the international community in recent years: genocide must not be tolerated. It is a moral imperative that states take action to prevent and punish genocide. History teaches that sometimes other states will not act unless America does it part." "America did act in response to the first genocide of the twentieth century and Armenian-Americans are forever grateful for the leading role of the United States in attempting to stop the Armenian Genocide and for aiding those who survived," Hovnanian added. "It is now time for the U.S. to continue this proud chapter of American history and formally and irrevocably reaffirm the Armenian Genocide," he continued. "By so doing, the U.S. will articulate the same message it has already sent to the public - that genocide must not be tolerated." In his statement, the President also says that the U.S. applauds Armenia's democratic reforms and seeks to help bolster Armenia's security and deepen its inclusion in the Euro-Atlantic community. The President also encouraged a peaceful settlement of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, adding "We remain committed to securing a peaceful and lasting settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and hope the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan will take bold steps to achieve this goal."

PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT ON ARMENIAN REMEMBRANCE DAY Today, we remember one of the horrible tragedies of the 20th century -- the mass killings and forced exile of as many as 1.5 million Armenians in the final days of the Ottoman Empire in 1915. This was a tragedy for all humanity and one that we and the world must never forget. We mourn this terrible chapter of history and recognize that it remains a source of pain for people in Armenia and for all those who believe in freedom, tolerance, and the dignity and value of every human life. It is a credit to the human spirit and generations of Armenians who live in Armenia, America, and around the globe that they have overcome this suffering and proudly preserved their centuries-old culture, traditions, and religion. We praise the individuals in Armenia and Turkey who have sought to examine the historical events of this time with honesty and sensitivity. The analysis by the International Center for Transitional Justice, while not the final word, has made a significant contribution toward deepening our understanding of these events. We encourage dialogues, including through joint commissions, that strive for a shared understanding of these tragic events and move Armenia and Turkey towards normalized relations. Today, we look with hope to a bright future for Armenia. Armenia's Millennium Challenge Compact reflects our confidence and the importance we place in Armenia making progress on democratic reform and advancement of free markets. We seek to help Armenia bolster its security and deepen its inclusion in the Euro-Atlantic family. We remain committed to securing a peaceful and lasting settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and hope the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan will take bold steps to achieve this goal. On this solemn day of remembrance, Laura and I express our deepest condolences to the Armenian people. Our nations stand together, determined to create a future of peace, prosperity, and freedom for the citizens of our countries and the world. GEORGE W. BUSH