shiner Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 The upcoming election in the US boils down to a very simple fact: the only reason to vote for Kerry is hating Bush. Thus Kerry will not take a stand on anything and will be as vague as possible in order to not upset anyone. His only hope to get elected is Bush dislike. It's impossible to vote for Kerry because you agree with him. There is absolutely nothing to agree (or disagree) with, because he has no stand on anything. While the above might come back to haunt a candidate, in this case it might not because the masses (who the Democrats pander to) don't have a thought process complex enough to realize this. And as always the masses outnumber the nonmasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 the masses (who the Democrats pander to) don't have a thought process complex enough to realize this. And as always the masses outnumber the nonmasses. So if the masses here tell you that we are not at all interested in reading sad, juvenile and shitty little postings from a nonmass like yourself, will you take a hike and leave for good? I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted August 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 Steve, You bring up a very interesting question: Should the masses go uncontested? In other words should everyone give in to the masses automatically no matter what the cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 (edited) Shiner Kerry did a great job on Armenian issues even helping other Armenian politicians such as STATE REPRESENTATIVE RACHEL KAPRIELIAN get elected here in my home state Mass. This is a public record. You seem to read Republican rhetoric from news media. Kerry is clear on Iraq and domestic issues. I don’t consider myself mainstream whatever but realistically does voting Ralph Nadir would have any impact? None! In greater context. Choosing to vote for Kerry does not mean “brainwashed masses” choosing to keep the statue quote is the real brainwashing specially when Bush had no reason to invade Iraq other then neo con objectives that are inherently serve towards misguided principles. Worth reading his speech. http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeche..._2004_0729.html No deferance?Read closely. Edited August 15, 2004 by Armat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 sometime I wonder how much more rediculios those guys would get its somewhat funny also By BOBBY ROSS JR., Associated Press Writer AUSTIN, Texas - Just a few miles from George W. Bush's former office at the state Capitol, a panel of religious experts weighed a question with relevance to many people of faith: How would Jesus vote? It's a complex topic that can't be boiled down to simple political terms, said religious leaders who attended a Texas Faith Network conference in Austin on Tuesday. Many at the conference voiced concerns that the religious right dominates discussions of faith and morality in politics. They complained that issues such as abortion and gay marriage seem to take priority over hunger, corporate crime and even the war in Iraq (news - web sites). James C. Moore, co-author of "Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George Bush Presidential," drew laughter and applause when he offered his view to the moderate to left-leaning crowd of about 250 clergy and lay leaders. "If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat." Some research has found that white Christians who attend worship services at least once a week are far more likely to vote Republican, while less frequent worshippers and those who are not religious tend to lean Democratic. Many analysts have criticized Democrats for failing to more effectively reach religious voters. "The sound bites and the headlines have co-opted people of faith," said the Rev. Tom Heger, pastor of St. John's Presbyterian Church in Manchaca, south of Austin. "It would be a surprise to a lot of folks to discover that there are some very faithful, regular church attendees who aren't going to vote for Bush." Conservative pastors such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "would have us believe that morality is all about where you stand on abortion, how you treat homosexuals. I think that is simply wrong," said John D. Moyers, senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for American Progress. The presidential race pits President Bush (news - web sites), a Republican who openly professes his evangelical Christian beliefs, against Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) of Massachusetts, a Roman Catholic who is more hesitant to discuss his faith publicly. The Rev. Timothy Tutt, pastor of United Christian Church in Austin, declined to say whom he will support in November, but balked at the perception that Bush is the only choice for people of faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Amen!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 http://freetune.com/extras/BrainTenYrs.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Amen!!!! style_images/master/snapback.png I couldn't quite make out which fickle finger of fate that was. Is it the ptamat, tsutsamat or the ubiquitous mijnemat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph parikian Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 JOB APPLICATION NAME: John Kerry RESIDENCE: 7 mansions, including one in Washington DC, worth multi-millions. I served in Vietnam (four months). EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement. In my career as a U.S. Senator, I've voted to cut every law enforcement, CIA, and Defense bill. I ordered the city of Boston to remove a fire hydrant in front of my mansion, thereby endangering my neighbors in the event of fire. I served in Vietnam (four months). MILITARY: I served in Vietnam (four months). I used three minor injuries to get an early discharge from the military and service in Vietnam (as documented by the attending doctor). I served in Vietnam (four months). I then returned to the U.S., joined Jane Fonda in protesting the war, and insulted returning Vietnam vets, claiming they committed> atrocities and were baby killers. I served in Vietnam (four months). I threw my ribbons, or something away in protest. Or did I? (I kept the medals) My book "Vietnam Veterans Against the War: The New Soldier", shows how I truly feel about the military. I served in Vietnam (four months). COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.B.A PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: After College and Vietnam, I ran for the U.S. Congress and have been there ever since. I have no real world experience except marrying very rich women and running their companies vicariously through them. I served in Vietnam (four months). ACCOMPLISHMENTS: As a U.S. Senator I set the record for the most liberal voting record, exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. I have consistently failed to support our military and CIA by voting against their budgets, thus gutting our country's ability to defend itself. Although I voted for the Iraq War, now I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every liberal piece of legislation. I have no plan to help this country but I intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected. I served in Vietnam (four months). My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will never catch up. I make little or no charitable contributions and have never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in Massachusetts, despite family wealth in excess of $ 700 million. I served in Vietnam (four months). I (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the U.S. in places like Asia, Mexico and Europe. We can make more profit from the cheaper cost of labor in those Countries, although I blame George Bush for sending all of the other jobs out of Country. I served in Vietnam (four months). Although I claim to be in favor of alternative energy sources, Ted Kennedy and I oppose windmills off Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard as it might spoil our view of the ocean as we cruise on our yachts. I served in Vietnam (four months). RECORDS AND REFERENCES: None. However, I served in Vietnam (four months). PERSONAL: I practice my Catholic faith whenever cameras are present. I ride a Serotta Bike. I love to ski/snowboard. I call my Gulfstream V Jet the "Flying Squirrel". I call my $850,000 42-foot Hinckley twin diesel yacht the "Scarmouche". I am fascinated by rap and hip-hop and feel it reflects our real culture. I own several "Large" SUVs including one parked at my Nantucket summer mansion, though I am against large, polluting, inefficient vehicles and blame George Bush for our energy problems. I served in Vietnam (four months). PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) So what if he married money and never had a decent job? I can think of others such as Republican John Warner, another carpetbagger who married a very rich woman Catherine Mellon, daughter of Paul Mellon, of the famed Pittsburg Mellons. After he divorced her, his very generous father-in-law gave him a fortune, which was what he needed to launch his political career. His second wife Liz Taylor got him the job. Edited November 1, 2004 by Nakharar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 The upcoming election in the US boils down to a very simple fact: the only reason to vote for Kerry is hating Bush. style_images/master/snapback.png Doesn't matter what kind of resume Kerry has, it's still Better then bush's. I am very uncomfortable with having a president who can't speak English, and who's a dumb as a dook knob. PLEASE PLEASE VOTE FOR KERRY. We need to get bush out of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Doesn't matter what kind of resume Kerry has, it's still Better then bush's.style_images/master/snapback.png faulty logic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 did not knwo that bush even had a resume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 faulty logic... style_images/master/snapback.png Please explain.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 yes HArout please do explain and MAnramasn aper please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 did not knwo that bush even had a resume. style_images/master/snapback.png http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10137 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Even a street bum can have a resume. Oh sorry, shouldn't be so hard on Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10137 style_images/master/snapback.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) Doesn't matter what kind of resume Kerry has, it's still Better then bush's. style_images/master/snapback.png faulty logic... style_images/master/snapback.png Please explain.... style_images/master/snapback.png i won't go into philosophical details... will just point out that it DOES matter. if i was john kerry, my resume wouldn't be better than bush's, for example... Edited November 1, 2004 by Harut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 i won't go into philosophical details... will just point out that it DOES matter. if i was john kerry, my resume wouldn't be better than bush's, for example... style_images/master/snapback.png Kerry's resume might not be an impressive resume by many standards. However, I think that we need to go back and review the first post. The only reason to vote for Kerry is hating Bush. Unfortunatelly, we're picking the lesser of two evils in this election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 does anyone know of any sites which simple state the different propostions we are voting on? I know who I'm voting for Pres. and I have chosen my local election choices,all I need are the propositions spelle dout for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted November 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Maral, Usually if you are a registered voter they send you a sample ballot that has all the races, and all propositions with arguments for and against each. Try to get one from someone else in your district, cause it's probably too late to get your own (or maybe you have it and did not realize it cause I'm pretty sure they send them to everyone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) Shiner,they have sent me literature,but I tossed them,only thing I've kept is the little blue and red book...I'll look in that,but I heard on the news that there are webites ,I'll find them later...oh I kept that book and also a recorded message from The Governator on my answering machine! Edited November 1, 2004 by Maral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.B.A I saw an (American, ABC I think) documentary last week on the two candidates. They claimed Kerry was in fact a good student in Harvard (though they didnt mention any specific marks). He also got a degree in Law after he returned from Vietnam. Kerry inlisted in the Navy before major involvement of US troops in Vietnam and the documentary claimed that he VOLUNTEERED to do a second tour-of-duty and also asked to be transferred 'closer-to-the-action': thats how he became a speed-boat captain. Edited November 1, 2004 by Accelerated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 i won't go into philosophical details... will just point out that it DOES matter. if i was john kerry, my resume wouldn't be better than bush's, for example... style_images/master/snapback.png HArout we need more details... !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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