Canadian Federal Election 2008

[AK-47]

It's that time again fellow Canucks!

 

While the Yankees below us bicker about a man on the verge of a heart attack allied with an Alaskan bimbo and an alleged Muslim allied with someone who thinks his running mate is a "clean African-American", all five leaders of our non-two-party system have been duking it out with two straight days of 5-way debates in two languages.

 

What's everyone's take?

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT NOTE: This new thread is a continuation of the older election thread

Edited October 8, 2008 by vava

[irlandahay]

I find it so sad to see that some peoples heads are so far up their a**es...

 

Domino, i sincerely wonder what communist magazine you are reading. its pathetic. I dont even know where to start...

 

"And then, the Conservative party should be abolished, a decision taken by the Suprem Court, on the basis that it's existance is against the Canadian Chart of liberty and Constitution"

 

I would sure like to see where you got that tid bit of information.

 

"The NPD should then be the official alternative for the liberals, and the Green party having the role that the NPD has now."

"And a new law in the Constitution should be added, which restricts any party of the Ouest degised or not, be ever capable of forming the government..., no better, making illegal, or criminal the existance of such parties."

 

Oh and what a red you are my dear domino...

 

Now that your done spewing out that pathetic garbage, how bout you sit down and look at some real facts.

 

The Conservative party has nothing radical about it. Harper, in his first year of power has: Recognised the Armenian genocide, spoken up against communist chinas human rights record (before this whole olympic boycotting business) and has kept EVERY SINGLE PRE-ELECTION PROMISE HE HAS MADE.

 

Wether you like him or not those facts are undenyable.

 

Now as Armenians, voting for Harper is the best thing you can do. In fact, the only Armenian running for federal is in the conservative party (Agop Ereveklian).

 

Now the liberals are run by a weak left wing rat. I have personally refused to shake Stephane Dion's hand. He is so full of cr*p and is so severly lacking charisma that he isnt even worth mentionning.

 

The bloc is completely irrelevant to Canadian politics that their mere existence is a joke.

 

The NDP is now run by the reds. Jack layton is a clown. My politics teacher at Dawson is one of the founding memebers of the NDP and has now stopped voting for them.

 

The thing about small parties like that is they can say whatever they want because they will never optain a position of true power.

 

Now the main issue in Canadian politics today is the economy and voting for the party best suited to handle it. And those my dear friends are the conservatives. All the left wing parties (which are sadly ALL the other parties) want to do is raise taxes, which will severely hurt business.

 

Also, for the genocide recognition. The senate passed it about ten years ago, then yes your right about one thing domino, it was a bloc lady from laval that started it in the house of commons and that passed as well. and then there was the bill to officially recognise it. The liberals resisted that and were even pressured to refuse to vote. But the conservative party made it pass.

 

The fact that the government makes it pass is the most important one because it means that it is the country's OFFICIAL position.

So lets see, the liberals have had 12 years to lift a finger and they didn't, in one year Harper challenged Turkey and didnt back down.

you should show a little bit of appreciation instead of acting so shamefully.

 

Also, quite funny in fact is that, Vava made a parallel between bush and Harper, obviously oblivious to the fact that the Democrat party in the united states is in fact more right wing then the Conservative party of Canada. Nice one Vava

 

SO I will kindly ask Domino and Vava to please come up with valuable arguments and proper evidence to support their childish accusations of one of the best prime ministers we have ever had.

 

Cheers

[DominO123]

I don't wish answering to someone who answer to someones joke as if it was an argument. I would have chosen the word 'idiot' but I decided not to.

 

I find it so sad to see that some peoples heads are so far up their a**es...

 

Domino, i sincerely wonder what communist magazine you are reading. its pathetic. I dont even know where to start...

 

"And then, the Conservative party should be abolished, a decision taken by the Suprem Court, on the basis that it's existance is against the Canadian Chart of liberty and Constitution"

 

I would sure like to see where you got that tid bit of information.

 

"The NPD should then be the official alternative for the liberals, and the Green party having the role that the NPD has now."

"And a new law in the Constitution should be added, which restricts any party of the Ouest degised or not, be ever capable of forming the government..., no better, making illegal, or criminal the existance of such parties."

 

Oh and what a red you are my dear domino...

 

Now that your done spewing out that pathetic garbage, how bout you sit down and look at some real facts.

 

The Conservative party has nothing radical about it. Harper, in his first year of power has: Recognised the Armenian genocide, spoken up against communist chinas human rights record (before this whole olympic boycotting business) and has kept EVERY SINGLE PRE-ELECTION PROMISE HE HAS MADE.

 

Wether you like him or not those facts are undenyable.

 

Now as Armenians, voting for Harper is the best thing you can do. In fact, the only Armenian running for federal is in the conservative party (Agop Ereveklian).

 

Now the liberals are run by a weak left wing rat. I have personally refused to shake Stephane Dion's hand. He is so full of cr*p and is so severly lacking charisma that he isnt even worth mentionning.

 

The bloc is completely irrelevant to Canadian politics that their mere existence is a joke.

 

The NDP is now run by the reds. Jack layton is a clown. My politics teacher at Dawson is one of the founding memebers of the NDP and has now stopped voting for them.

 

The thing about small parties like that is they can say whatever they want because they will never optain a position of true power.

 

Now the main issue in Canadian politics today is the economy and voting for the party best suited to handle it. And those my dear friends are the conservatives. All the left wing parties (which are sadly ALL the other parties) want to do is raise taxes, which will severely hurt business.

 

Also, for the genocide recognition. The senate passed it about ten years ago, then yes your right about one thing domino, it was a bloc lady from laval that started it in the house of commons and that passed as well. and then there was the bill to officially recognise it. The liberals resisted that and were even pressured to refuse to vote. But the conservative party made it pass.

 

The fact that the government makes it pass is the most important one because it means that it is the country's OFFICIAL position.

So lets see, the liberals have had 12 years to lift a finger and they didn't, in one year Harper challenged Turkey and didnt back down.

you should show a little bit of appreciation instead of acting so shamefully.

 

Also, quite funny in fact is that, Vava made a parallel between bush and Harper, obviously oblivious to the fact that the Democrat party in the united states is in fact more right wing then the Conservative party of Canada. Nice one Vava

 

SO I will kindly ask Domino and Vava to please come up with valuable arguments and proper evidence to support their childish accusations of one of the best prime ministers we have ever had.

 

Cheers

 

[irlandahay]

I don't wish answering to someone who answer to someones joke as if it was an argument. I would have chosen the word 'idiot' but I decided not to.

 

 

I understood the humor but im trying to understand whats leading you to make a joke like that.

 

read properly

[garmag]

Trudoism,then came the jockers Clark, followed briefly by a lady judge from B.C. to be followed by "Bullroney" that gave corruption a new definition.

 

Since we are the side kicks of big USA, and when US sneezes we catch pneumonia.....Harper had caugth bushmania. WILL DEFINITELY "PUSHMAN LINI VERJUM".

I wish my question will be answered. Why Harper decided to commit our youth to war in Afghanistan?

Do you think any power can have any effect on Afghanistan? BTW was'nt that war over and done with according to bushites?

 

Funny thing they even show cased democratic elections LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and Karzai is nothing but a puppet on a string!

 

Harperism is fear mongering and inducing the population into thinking that unless we fight terrorism in Afghanistan/Iraq/West bank/or take your pick... WE ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER OF BEING ATTACKED BY DEMENTED TALIBS ANY MINUTE! Oh I forgot, the Iraqi Weapons of mass destruction (never were found) will be used in Toronto, Montreal, and maybe by mistake, in Kagnawaka, (an Indian Reservation i,n south shores of Montreal.

 

Here is my prediction, the next few elections are meaningless, THE WEST WILL SEPARATE AHEAD OF ANY OTHER PROVINCE! Tereby forcing Quebec a de facto independence. The only problem with this scenario is the risk of being invaded by USA for Quebec's vast reserves of vital resources... WATER!

THE CAUSE OF THE 3RD WORLD WAR TO COME. Da Astvats ch@ lini!

The wasp will never want to share the tar sands of Alberta (Harper domain) with the frogies!

 

What gumption to proclaim that Quebequers are a nation...some Quebequoi conservatives were gullible enough to swallow this insult and make as though they had won the war against the big brother the Anglos...

The smoke screen Harper is selling to Quebequers is to put them to sleep, in order to flush them later down the drain...

 

I reluctantly added my two cents worth to this saga...

The war between Anglos/Francos is continuing even though appearences are put forward to show everything is hunky dory? NOT!

Edited October 6, 2008 by garmag

[irlandahay]

Trudoism,then came the jockers Clark, followed briefly by a lady judge from B.C. to be followed by "Bullroney" that gave corruption a new definition.

 

Since we are the side kicks of big USA, and when US sneezes we catch pneumonia.....Harper had caugth bushmania. WILL DEFINITELY "PUSHMAN LINI VERJUM".

I wish my question will be answered. Why Harper decided to commit our youth to war in Afghanistan?

Do you think any power can have any effect on Afghanistan? BTW was'nt that war over and done with according to bushites?

 

Funny thing they even show cased democratic elections LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and Karzai is nothing but a puppet on a string!

 

Harperism is fear mongering and inducing the population into thinking that unless we fight terrorism in Afghanistan/Iraq/West bank/or take your pick... WE ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER OF BEING ATTACKED BY DEMENTED TALIBS ANY MINUTE! Oh I forgot, the Iraqi Weapons of mass destruction (never were found) will be used in Toronto, Montreal, and maybe by mistake, in Kagnawaka, (an Indian Reservation i,n south shores of Montreal.

 

Here is my prediction, the next few elections are meaningless, THE WEST WILL SEPARATE AHEAD OF ANY OTHER PROVINCE! Tereby forcing Quebec a de facto independence. The only problem with this scenario is the risk of being invaded by USA for Quebec's vast reserves of vital resources... WATER!

THE CAUSE OF THE 3RD WORLD WAR TO COME. Da Astvats ch@ lini!

The wasp will never want to share the tar sands of Alberta (Harper domain) with the frogies!

 

What gumption to proclaim that Quebequers are a nation...some Quebequoi conservatives were gullible enough to swallow this insult and make as though they had won the war against the big brother the Anglos...

The smoke screen Harper is selling to Quebequers is to put them to sleep, in order to flush them later down the drain...

 

I reluctantly added my two cents worth to this saga...

The war between Anglos/Francos is continuing even though appearences are put forward to show everything is hunky dory? NOT!

 

Wow...and another paranoid maniac...

 

And how did Mulorney gave corruption a new definition? please, enlighten me as to how this prime minister was corrupt?

 

Why Harper decided to send Canadian youth to Afghanista? simple answer... he didnt. it was the liberals

 

the rest of your post is just pointless paranoid blabber.

the war between the Anglos and the french? you clearly dont live in Quebec...

 

 

Edited October 6, 2008 by irlandahay

[garmag]

Wow...and another paranoid maniac...

 

And how did Mulorney gave corruption a new definition? please, enlighten me as to how this prime minister was corrupt?

 

Why Harper decided to send Canadian youth to Afghanista? simple answer... he didnt. it was the liberals

 

the rest of your post is just pointless paranoid blabber.

the war between the Anglos and the french? you clearly dont live in Quebec...

 

Are Irlandahais, or is it hay? as fast in their insulting modes as you?

I happen to have three grand children who have an Irishman as father!

Contrary to you I was never agressed by any Irish so far... You beat them to the tape. Cograts!

 

I do live in Quebec, and has been living here for the past 37 years... You can have the rest of Canaya.

You, where do you display your flag?

I wonder if you are in Canada, if so, have you not seen the Schreiber /Mulroney fiasco?

If not, google it to find out how Bullroney received cash in hotel rooms on three seperate occasions...envelopes stuffed with cash for services to be rendered to Schreiber, in Canadian made tanks to be sold to UN Europe...

 

As for Harper, could he not stop Canadian youth being killed in Afghanistan in sheer futility. What ties his dirty hands in doing so?

 

Your conservative tunnel vision is of the taliban type...need I say more!

As for Anglo/French continuing war, are you blind or are you pretending to be?

Has Harper bamboozeled you by his hypocritical friendly approach to Quebec?

 

If your avatar is an indicator about you, you need a few more years of life to comment the way you comment!

Insults are the weapons of the weak debators...LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

To yours with a pint of the best of Guiness.

Edited October 7, 2008 by garmag

[irlandahay]

Are Irlandahais, or is it hay? as fast in their insulting modes as you?

I happen to have three grand children who have an Irishman as father!

Contrary to you I was never agressed by any Irish so far... You beat them to the tape. Cograts!

 

I do live in Quebec, and has been living here for the past 37 years... You can have the rest of Canaya.

You, where do you display your flag?

I wonder if you are in Canada, if so, have you not seen the Schreiber /Mulroney fiasco?

If not, google it to find out how Bullroney received cash in hotel rooms on three seperate occasions...envelopes stuffed with cash for services to be rendered to Schreiber, in Canadian made tanks to be sold to UN Europe...

 

As for Harper, could he not stop Canadian youth being killed in Afghanistan in sheer futility. What ties his dirty hands in doing so?

 

Your conservative tunnel vision is of the taliban type...need I say more!

As for Anglo/French continuing war, are you blind or are you pretending to be?

Has Harper bamboozeled you by his hypocritical friendly approach to Quebec?

 

If your avatar is an indicator about you, you need a few more years of life to comment the way you comment!

Insults are the weapons of the weak debators...LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

To yours with a pint of the best of Guiness.

 

Ahaha oh please.

well then Im very happy that you ahve 3 irish grandchildren.

agressed? wow calm it down a bit there, i guess you actually are paranoid.

 

My Irish family, on the MULRONEY SIDE has been living in Baie Comeau for 7 generations. The O'shea side in Donnacona.

so I guess u can say Im pretty Quebecois.

 

You wanna know what flag I display? The Armenian and the Irish one. I am ashamed of Canada for personnal reasons.

lol and yes my dear friend I am in Canada and have seen the Mulroney Schreiber "fiasco" as you put it.

There really was nothing wrong with it at all. Its just left-wing ignorant people like you that are so desperate to find a fault that you would jump at just about anything. its quite sad really, the liberals trying to turn attention away from the sponsorship scandal.

 

Omg. Do you know the first thing about war? I mean jesus. You dont go in, bomb a country to the ground and then ditch. You know why? Because you ahve left-wing liberal ignorant people like you, that only enjoy complaining. They complain when the soldiers go in, and when they come back they complain that they didnt do the job right.

 

So on behalf of the Taliban my dear friend THANK YOU. Thank you for making their job easyer. Thank you for promoting Islamio-facism, for denying a womans right to education and medicine, for denying a child the right to grow up properly and have a futur. Thank you you selfish selfish man.

 

Wouldnt you have loved it if Canadian soldiers liberated Armenian lands during the genocide? FINALLY put an end tu turkish tyranny? Or should the brave men who fought in world war two have stayed home and leave the jews to their fate yeh?

 

Anglo/french war? LOL wake up and smell the coffee, the parti Quebecois last election was at its lowest since its creation.

 

My avatar? its just a picture of me jumping lol what does that say about anything.

insults? actually discrediting someone on the basis of their AGE is the tool of the weak

 

and so I would also like to say that i did not intend to insult you but merely point out just how left wing your thinking is.

I am after all an Armenian and I respect my elders

 

Have a great day Garmag jan

 

[garmag]

Ahaha oh please.

well then Im very happy that you ahve 3 irish grandchildren.

agressed? wow calm it down a bit there, i guess you actually are paranoid.

 

My Irish family, on the MULRONEY SIDE has been living in Baie Comeau for 7 generations. The O'shea side in Donnacona.

so I guess u can say Im pretty Quebecois.

 

You wanna know what flag I display? The Armenian and the Irish one. I am ashamed of Canada for personnal reasons.

lol and yes my dear friend I am in Canada and have seen the Mulroney Schreiber "fiasco" as you put it.

There really was nothing wrong with it at all. Its just left-wing ignorant people like you that are so desperate to find a fault that you would jump at just about anything. its quite sad really, the liberals trying to turn attention away from the sponsorship scandal.

 

Omg. Do you know the first thing about war? I mean jesus. You dont go in, bomb a country to the ground and then ditch. You know why? Because you ahve left-wing liberal ignorant people like you, that only enjoy complaining. They complain when the soldiers go in, and when they come back they complain that they didnt do the job right.

 

So on behalf of the Taliban my dear friend THANK YOU. Thank you for making their job easyer. Thank you for promoting Islamio-facism, for denying a womans right to education and medicine, for denying a child the right to grow up properly and have a futur. Thank you you selfish selfish man.

 

Wouldnt you have loved it if Canadian soldiers liberated Armenian lands during the genocide? FINALLY put an end tu turkish tyranny? Or should the brave men who fought in world war two have stayed home and leave the jews to their fate yeh?

 

Anglo/french war? LOL wake up and smell the coffee, the parti Quebecois last election was at its lowest since its creation.

 

My avatar? its just a picture of me jumping lol what does that say about anything.

insults? actually discrediting someone on the basis of their AGE is the tool of the weak

 

and so I would also like to say that i did not intend to insult you but merely point out just how left wing your thinking is.

I am after all an Armenian and I respect my elders

 

Have a great day Garmag jan

 

 

Let me see now...

I am, according to you; paranoid-left wing ignorent person-I enjoy complaining-did you also mean I am a liberal?-left wing ignorent person once again-

I made talibs job easier?-Islamo facist promoter-denier of women's education/medicine?-deniying a child to grow up PROPERLY and have a future-double selfish man-

a bit of anti-semitism nuanced accusation-I use weak tools to critisize-left wing thinker-you also respect me for my age...for which I am greatful...

(by the way, I did not know that only Armenians respect their elders...) are there any other nations that do so as well? Chinese come to mind... as I have seen in their homes upon the mantle-piece urns containing ashes of ancestry...also elders living with their offspring instead of being ditched in glorified prisons called retirement homes?????

 

Did Bulroney share some of the moolah with you that you find it justyfied Him accepting graft, whilst acting as the leader of Canaia ?

I always have a great day, and wish the top of the mornin to ya!

 

I was in a war my young enthuisastic brain washed friend! Do you know anything about war that is NOT paint ball action or games on the little screens where the dead arise again to have another go. In the war that I was unfortunatly involved, did have real bombs and real shreded human forms strewn about...lots of innocents died but were called collateral damage...collateral damage! as though they were parts of inanimate things and were accidentally damaged by (as you say, bomb a coutry and not ditch it afterwards) civilzed cluster bombs...

 

I will not ask about your personal vendetta against Canaia...but to hold a grudge against Harpers coutry, assuredly is SINFUL!

May you live long and revisit your posts at a later stage of your life...

I wish you the best of everything you aspire for or to!!!

Irlandahay is meaningless as you also profess to be Qwebequois! Which is it?

If you know the game of chess the rivalery of French and English goes back a few centuries...an election loss in this cintext is just another day!

Stay well young man!

sirov,

Garo-mag

Edited October 8, 2008 by garmag

[garmag]

Ahaha oh please.

well then Im very happy that you ahve 3 irish grandchildren.

agressed? wow calm it down a bit there, i guess you actually are paranoid.

 

My Irish family, on the MULRONEY SIDE has been living in Baie Comeau for 7 generations. The O'shea side in Donnacona.

so I guess u can say Im pretty Quebecois.

 

You wanna know what flag I display? The Armenian and the Irish one. I am ashamed of Canada for personnal reasons.

lol and yes my dear friend I am in Canada and have seen the Mulroney Schreiber "fiasco" as you put it.

There really was nothing wrong with it at all. Its just left-wing ignorant people like you that are so desperate to find a fault that you would jump at just about anything. its quite sad really, the liberals trying to turn attention away from the sponsorship scandal.

 

Omg. Do you know the first thing about war? I mean jesus. You dont go in, bomb a country to the ground and then ditch. You know why? Because you ahve left-wing liberal ignorant people like you, that only enjoy complaining. They complain when the soldiers go in, and when they come back they complain that they didnt do the job right.

 

So on behalf of the Taliban my dear friend THANK YOU. Thank you for making their job easyer. Thank you for promoting Islamio-facism, for denying a womans right to education and medicine, for denying a child the right to grow up properly and have a futur. Thank you you selfish selfish man.

 

Wouldnt you have loved it if Canadian soldiers liberated Armenian lands during the genocide? FINALLY put an end tu turkish tyranny? Or should the brave men who fought in world war two have stayed home and leave the jews to their fate yeh?

 

Anglo/french war? LOL wake up and smell the coffee, the parti Quebecois last election was at its lowest since its creation.

 

My avatar? its just a picture of me jumping lol what does that say about anything.

insults? actually discrediting someone on the basis of their AGE is the tool of the weak

 

and so I would also like to say that i did not intend to insult you but merely point out just how left wing your thinking is.

I am after all an Armenian and I respect my elders

 

Have a great day Garmag jan

 

[irlandahay]

Let me see now...

I am, according to you; paranoid-left wing ignorent person-I enjoy complaining-did you also mean I am a liberal?-left wing ignorent person once again-

I made talibs job easier?-Islamo facist promoter-denier of women's education/medicine?-deniying a child to grow up PROPERLY and have a future-double selfish man-

a bit of anti-semitism nuanced accusation-I use weak tools to critisize-left wing thinker-you also respect me for my age...for which I am greatful...

(by the way, I did not know that only Armenians respect their elders...) are there any other nations that do so as well? Chinese come to mind... as I have seen in their homes upon the mantle-piece urns containing ashes of ancestry...also elders living with their offspring instead of being ditched in glorified prisons called retirement homes?????

 

Did Bulroney share some of the moolah with you that you find it justyfied Him accepting graft, whilst acting as the leader of Canaia ?

I always have a great day, and wish the top of the mornin to ya!

 

I was in a war my young enthuisastic brain washed friend! Do you know anything about war that is NOT paint ball action or games on the little screens where the dead arise again to have another go. In the war that I was unfortunatly involved, did have real bombs and real shreded human forms strewn about...lots of innocents died but were called collateral damage...collateral damage! as though they were parts of inanimate things and were accidentally damaged by (as you say, bomb a coutry and not ditch it afterwards) civilzed cluster bombs...

 

I will not ask about your personal vendetta against Canaia...but to hold a grudge against Harpers coutry, assuredly is SINFUL!

May you live long and revisit your posts at a later stage of your life...

I wish you the best of everything you aspire for or to!!!

Irlandahay is meaningless as you also profess to be Qwebequois! Which is it?

If you know the game of chess the rivalery of French and English goes back a few centuries...an election loss in this cintext is just another day!

Stay well young man!

sirov,

Garo-mag

 

I said I was raised as an armenian and thus respect my elders. Am I wrong? or do Armenians teach their children to ignore the old and shove them into death-boxes called retirement homes? if so then I must be doing something wrong because my 86 year old grandmother still lives with us

Now let me clarify, I disrespect your political ideas but respect you as a person. Get it? I dont agree with you but dont necessarily dislike you as a person.

 

Again, prove me wrong or dont come up with baseless accusations. Oh and he took the money AFTER he got out of office

 

Well I am truly happy that you came out in one piece. But that doesnt change the fact that war is an everyday part of life and that we are doing something good in that country.

 

Have a great day

lol I am Quebecois by birth but am terribly ashamed of it. As I have previously said, In my room hangs an Armenian flag and an Irish one.

[vava]

Garmag jan, you seem to have infinitely more patience than I do - the way Irlandahay started his responses in the thread indicates that he clearly doesn't wish to discuss anything at all. He just wants to flame and bash and maybe create some shock-value rated entertainment. Not worth my time really.

 

In any case, I'll move the 2008 posts in this thread to a new thread devoted to the new election. I'll also post my thoughts a little later this week.

 

[vava]

In any case, I'll move the 2008 posts in this thread to a new thread devoted to the new election. I'll also post my thoughts a little later this week.

 

Done - new posts can continue here

[irlandahay]

Garmag jan, you seem to have infinitely more patience than I do - the way Irlandahay started his responses in the thread indicates that he clearly doesn't wish to discuss anything at all. He just wants to flame and bash and maybe create some shock-value rated entertainment. Not worth my time really.

 

In any case, I'll move the 2008 posts in this thread to a new thread devoted to the new election. I'll also post my thoughts a little later this week.

 

Actually Im trying to figure out what lead people like you to make such distorted comments about the only properly functionning political party currently in parliament.

 

please...enlighten me.