Boghos Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 A peculiar study... "The symbol of the swastika, most commonly associated with the WWII era and the Nazi regime, has a much deeper history and has fascinated people throughout history by its complex, mystical meanings and codes. The understanding of these codes has been thought to be expressed through its symbol. The swastika has been widely used in various cultural symbolisms of religious and astronomical nature throughout the Armenian Highland, Mesopotamia, Africa, China, India and Mesoamerica. After careful examination of the Armenian alphabet, one would find that half a dozen of its letters are nothing more than modified versions of the famous swastika symbol. Armenian letters such as: Ke, Kea, Xe, Pe, Fe, and Ea have their origins in the ancient proto-Armenian petroglyph writings found in the Armenian Highland. The earliest depictions of the swastika found in Armenia, date back to the Neolithic Period of human cultural evolution (aprox. 7000-5000 B.C.E.) Very often, the swastika is symbolized in the form of the solar disk, commonly found in the stone carvings of the Armenian Plateau, Iranian Plateau and ancient civilizations of Anatolia and Mesoamerica. Looking back through history the meaning of the word swastika is found in several languages. The Sanskrit root of the word swastika is svar, which means brilliance, illumination or shining. The closest contemporary equivalent to the word is found in the Russian language, where the word svet means light. In the Armenian language, the second portion of the word swastika--the ast, also referred as asd--means power. This is also the root of the Armenian word Astvats, which means God. Thus, the word Astvats is translated as "all powerful" or "giver of power/s." In this context would refer to physical and spiritual health, clarity of mind or perhaps even salvation. Thus our examination of the Sanskrit roots of the word brings us to the two archaic meanings of the words svar, (meaning brilliant or shinning) and asti meaning powerful or god. And so we get the meaning of the word swastika, which is: all powerful/shining God. In ancient times, References such as, "all powerful" or "brilliant" were assigned to the many gods of polytheistic religions. Later these descriptions moved into the context of many current, established, monotheistic religions. In the past when kings acquired their royal throne, they were also referred to as the 'shinning one.' This also allowed them to claim their divine right to rule over their dominions acquired "from the god's themselves." The sun, our only source of light, has been symbolized by the swastika because in ancient times, many people, seeing the sun as a life giver considered a God itself. As many other peoples world wide, the Armenids of the Armenian Highland and Mesopotamia had been referred to as: "the children of the light". This concept is found within the essence of the word "Ar-men,” where "Ar" is the name of the ancient Armenian sun god known as (referred to as Ra or Ra-Amon by ancient Egyptians). In addition, the word "men" theoretically would stand for the people or worshippers of the sun god, thus we get "Ar-men" and "Ar-men-ia." The ending of the word Armenia, the 'ia' is said to theoretically stand for the location, thus we get Armenia, meaning "the land of the sun-worshippers" or "the land of the children of light". For more information about this topic: ”The Book of Stars” by Dr. Edward Sargsyan ”The Evolution of the Armenian and World Alphabets” by Dr. Melkon Khandjian Or visit the Hayk Institute at www.arminco.com/Armenia/haik.html" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 7, 2002 Report Share Posted April 7, 2002 i remember, back in hight school, a dibate broke up among india students and iranian teacher and students. each "group" was claiming that swastika has originated in their country. and i was standing by and thinking myself, "hm, maybe it is of Armenian origin after all?". now i can see that it may as well be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted April 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Of course. When I visited the historical museum of Karabagh I learnt that the three colour television was invented by an Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Boghos:Of course. When I visited the historical museum of Karabagh I learnt that the three colour television was invented by an Armenian.are you being serious or joking?lately i heard so many diverse opinions and "facts" about this, that now i don't know when people joke when they are serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted April 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 This is very serious. It is there. His name was Adamian. Now if this is true or not, the fact that he invented the colour TV, I cannot tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Hovhannes Adamian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Harut:Hovhannes Adamian=======Correct!!!Go to Famous Armenians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Dear Arpa, I am not sure if that is accurate or not. John Baird of UK is the inventor if I am not mistaken. http://www.digitalcentury.com/encyclo/upda...date/baird.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Boghos - great post - to start the thread. As I understand it the swatisca has been in use by many peoples throughout the world as a symbol of life/abundance - sun/earth and such all rolled into one. I had some amount of information on this at one time (most on those paper things, you know, that collect dust up on shelves.....ah yes - books! - I'll see what else I can find if any are interested). Don't remember the origine per se (so we Armenians might as well claim it - as with everything else...and there is something to the color TV thing - saw it in Time magazine or such 1-2 years ago...I think when Adamian died [though I could be mistaken about the name]) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 quote: John Baird of UK is the inventor if I am not mistaken. But I have read somewhere that the Brits trace their root from Armenian orgine... so him or Adamian, it still is an Armenian. [ April 11, 2002, 08:09 AM: Message edited by: Domino ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anoush. Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Did YOU vote Domino???? NO jews allowed! Don't make me laugh, you're not gonna get a bunch of jews and a chink to vote for what Armenians want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 At least I am honest... so be quite, I am still sure your bodies are registering and voting... but what can we expect from facists right ? Now don<t destroy that poll please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Domino, Anoush!!! don't even try to start that in this topic!!! guys, it's becoming really annoying!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 you see, i had almost forgotten what i was going to post here. ==== ok, here.does this anyhow resemble swastika? http://www.cilicia.com/pico/eter-sm.gif this is the Armenian sign of ethernity so much mentioned in the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 But...but...but... O.K you are right... I tough that answer from Anoush was in my Poll thread... I know, I know... you will say, I don't give a ... Sorry. I will shut like a baby after drinking his milk. http://images.animfactory.com/animations/people_a_l/baby/baby_suck_on_pacifier_md_wht.gif [ April 11, 2002, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Domino ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 BTW. http://www.cilicia.com/pico/eter-sm.gif It sound like the Ying and Yang. Another thing that was copied from the Armenians ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nvard Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 I don't see any connection between the Ying/Yang and our Eternaty sign.BTW, they simbolize things that are totally different.The fields of Ying/Yang show the Male(light)/Female(dark)essences.The Armenian sign shows the neverending, repeting circle of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 quote: I don't see any connection between the Ying/Yang and our Eternaty sign.BTW, they simbolize things that are totally different.The fields of Ying/Yang show the Male(light)/Female(dark)essences.The Armenian sign shows the neverending, repeting circle of life. Not exaclly, the Ying and Yang do not only symbolise the Male and Femal, it represent a kind of unended cicle of opposition, the Night the day, the male and femal, everything that is opposite and the ideology behind it, the equilibratum, the unended cicle of the World... so I see here a kind of similarity. [ April 12, 2002, 05:47 AM: Message edited by: Domino ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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