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I just explained the reason why, hagarag. Or did my point miss your attention about how the jews are the main enemy and the main obstacle to the Armenian cause and Armenian Genocide recognition? They were also the main agitators perpetrators of the Genocide Proof has been posted and much of it later deleted by moderators. That is why attention must be fixed on the jews. Again, KNOW YOUR ENEMY!

hagarag just admitted to being a jew. "Many others whom I know personally (family and friends)"

Better question to you, Harut, is didn't your grandfather or grandmother tell you that jews did indeed point out hiding places of Armenians to the turks? Or if you have family in Artsakh, they were at it again, pointing out the Armenians to the azeris?? Did you know that this is TRUE???? Now you are going to tell me that tellig the truth about REAL events is anti-Semitism? What kind of nonsense is that???

In reality, there is NO such thing as a half jew because products of such unions become jews. Period.

I also find it intriguing that after 87 years of failure to bring the perpetrators to justice in "Nuremberg" trials for those responsible and failure to have Armenian land returned or compensation, anyone would be foolish enough to say we have to keep on with our failed policies. Diplomacy and being nice and not saying anything has NOT worked!

Again, as was said before, why is it that you are worried about how Armenians "look"???? Do you think for one minute the jews worry about how they look when they make nice with turks and azeris and help the turks deny the Armenian Genocide? If you're tired of a subject, then why are you here posting and discussing on it if not just to be the jewish defense league of the "Hye" forum????? Extensive and considerable proof has been presented and then deleted that the main, primary obstacle to the Armenian cause and Armenian Genocide recognition is jews. Now why would we be silent about that and why would any Armenian in his or her right mind continue in the face of this massive evidence to say "what's it gonna look like?" True it's disgusting what the jews are doing, but they ARE doing it! Do NOT blame the messenger rather than the perpetrator! What kind of "logic" is that?

Winston, BTW read AR's post. Is that from Mein Kampf? Or a white supremacist site? Answer honestly please IF that's possible for you.

Sorry Winston, your backward talk translations do not work for LIES. That's retarded and you know it. I say what I say up front and clearly, unlike you who has to resort to pretense and LIES, deflection and sidestepping.

Domino, We all know you continually and shamelessly lie! You lied about not making posts anymore to me, now you conduct some stoopid poll, trying to call in and rally all your "friends" to your defense since you are hopeless against us and the truth. Do you seriously expect that votes by jews and chinese count for what Armenians want??? Your worst lie was saying that ISA wants to kill you. He doesn't want to kill you, but he does want to hurt you!

The one who calls yourself ASALA, real ASALA would spit on you! Domino - excellent post. Anoush> Domino, stooopid post, deflecting and sidestepping as always. Additionally, I told you that if you can't say it to my face on April 24, then don't say it on the Net! We also must not forget Moganthau, Charney, Wielsel, Werful, and the very many more (remember the 200+ signatures form Academics 2 years ago? - a very many were Jewish). And the list could go on and on. Anoush> We give credit where credit is due and it is the TRUTH that the vast majority of jews support turks and azeris and Armenian Genocide denial, they sit and let israel officially deny the Armenian Genocide and let their organizations work for the turks, azeris and Armenian Genocide denial. Fact, not prejudice or anything else! Some of us have the maturity of perspective to understand that you cannot just whitewash an entire group/race/religion etc with such negative stereotypes and attribute nastyness to the entire group (this goes for Jews, Turks, Armenians or whoever). We have the maturity to call a spade a spade and admit what is really happening. Others choose to make excuses, excuses, excuses. Obviously Israel and certain Jewish groups and some - perhaps even many (though I doubt it) Jews have aligned themselves with the Turkish government effort to deny the Genocide - for various reasons - real-politic, exclusivisity of the Holocaust - or whatever. It is not SOME jewish groups, but ALL major jewish groups and jews just allow these organizations to continue and they support their dirty work. FACT! Again, you are making excuses for them. Those excuses are unacceptable! But this is not the whole story - obviously. And when it gets to the level of denying the Holocaust ("they" call it "holohoax" and the like) and blaming the Jews for their own destruction (and who/what does that sound like - as Armenians we have heard such before) - and blame Jews for everying else wrong in the world and in history etc and constantly attribute to this one race behaviors and such that are just purely evil (synagog of Satan and filfth/trash etc etc) - well then it should be clear where such people are comming from - and it is an inditement against those who make such absurd claims - not one against the people they are making these claims against. Anoush> We give credit where credit is due and the truth of the matter is that jews are rarely victims, but rather victimizers and it's obvious to anyone with any degree of mental clarity. I know that excludes YOU! And it is clear that these types are also of the same mentality of those who would deny the Genocide and hate a particualr race and be racist against them - as we Armenians often hear from braionwashed Turks - atttributing to Armenians as a race all sorts of ills and responsibilities for acts and behaviors to justify acts againsts us and to dehumanize us. As Armenians we shoulld be particualrly sensitive and rejecting of such ugly attitudes - IMO. Anoush> Telling the truth is NOT racism, no matter how hard you try to twist the facts. And if Jews cannot see the same - based on their similar experiences - well then I say it is our role to show them what we have learned - tolerance and understanding for people who are different and compassion for suffering. And in fact - from my exposure - most Jews understand this well - and are highly sympathetic of our plight and of our experience with the Genocide and its denial. Anoush> jews are gonna do what jews are gonna do. Unless you make things uncomfortable for them, they will continue what they are doing and you'd like to make it comfortable for them. Your failed tactics have failed for 87 years. Enough is enough! Obviously we must not be blinded to politics and the actions of groups who would wish us ill - but there is no need to generalize against an entire race of people etc (I don't know how many times I have made such a post as this to these people - and to them it makes me a "Jew lover" [as if that is necesirily a bad thing) or worse - "traitor", "JDL member" etc etc is what I hear. Anoush> We do not generalize, we give credit where credit is due! Obviously anyone with any brains can see who is lacking of understanding of things and who works against our people. Anoush> Yep, that's you once again! So again I say - we must not just sit by and be silent - we must actively reject these people and their twisted ideas. To not do so is tantamount to "saying nothing" when they singled out and shipped off the Jews and when they marched the Armenians away. Anoush> You're the one with twisted ideas, who defends jews no matter how wrong they are. Don't pretend to be on some high moral ground, you don't deserve it, neither do jews deserve to be protected from their wrongdoing, your denials of their wrongdoing notwithstanding. turkey and azerbaijan gain from YOUR foolish defense of their best allies, not from our exposing them! More LIES, more backward talk. Sorry, no sale!

Did YOU vote Domino???? NO jews allowed! Don't make me laugh, you're not gonna get a bunch of jews and a chink to vote for what Armenians want.

Where did A.R. say that hagarag? I think Arabs are the remedy for jews! Can't wait for them to get really, really pissed!

Again, how many times do I have to tell you, say it to my face. Not on the Net KKKoward!

What are you soooooooo amused about? It is obvious you are projecting your own inadequacies and failures onto Armenians. While a very, very, very small amount of Armenians acted badly mixing with jews, most did NOT and remain without the taint of genocidal genes.

You're funny hagarag. I had NO feeling one way or the other about jews until I learned what they were doing against the Armenian cause and against the Serbian Christians...I need NO exucuses for NOTHING and you can keep your BS nonsense! In fact, I once thought they were entitled to their state of israel until I learned what they had done to obtain it.