24avril1915 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) National Geographic August 1919 http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=33647 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) Les Chromos De La Chocolaterie D’aiguebelle Another scan : http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=32882 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Awesome file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) You can see the another post : http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=16676 This is picture ( + pdf ) about the Armenians massacre. Edited August 23, 2007 by 24avril1915 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) Genocide In Turkey 1975 , The Union Of Armenian Students In Manchester http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=24293 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 (edited) Deir-ez-zor http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=34131 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 (edited) National Geographic November 1919 http://armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=34033 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) Abdul Hamid http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=31648 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 The Red Sultan is one of the most caricatured statesmen of his era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 (edited) 1915 : Le Génocide Arménien - Brochure éditée Par Le Comité De Soutien In French : http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=34640 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) National Geographic - June 1978 http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=34741 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted October 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) List Of Orphan 1925 . http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=35220 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted October 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) Why Does A Close U.s. Ally Deny Its Genocide http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?id=1384987 http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?id=1385001 http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?id=1385035 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted October 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 (edited) The Conslusion Of The Historians http://www.armenianweb.info/index.php?cat=90 Edited April 7, 2008 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 En Francais ( In French ) Journal J’ai vu 30 octobre 1915 http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=35907 Journal J’ai vu 16 octobre 1915 http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=35906 Journal J’ai vu 2 octobre 1915 http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=35905 Journal Excelsior 18 fevrier 1916 ( Erzeroum est prise ) http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=35867 Journal Excelsior 30 juin 1916 http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=35868 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 The Excelsior was a good pick, not that easy to find that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Domino Too bad I can't read French Do you know anything about French population count of Armenians in Anatolia at 1914? Here take a look Graph Thanks.Looks like revisionist like this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Domino Too bad I can't read French Do you know anything about French population count of Armenians in Anatolia at 1914? Here take a look Graph Thanks.Looks like revisionist like this one. Those are not the French population count, the only late Ottoman French figures were drawn by Cuinet, those are the Ottoman statistics of 1912 which were published in 1914. I have written several pages on this. I have it in one of my harddrives, maybe some part of it are here at hyeforum. I'll ask Stormig if she kept a copy of the thing about McCarthy I wrote which contains this. I also translated Frédéeric Paulin work about this into English, let me see if I find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Also, the Armenian count in the Empire in 1913 was of 1,914,620 according to Armenian archival records, in some regions in the West McCarthy corrected statistics gave higher figures than those, which shows that they are the most serious figures to date and did also suffer from undercounting. The most interesting with those figures are provided for the Eastern region (where the Ottoman statistics were the weaker), when replacing the corrected figures for the West (replaced by McCarthy), we find even a higher number, (tens of thousands more). When I told you that the Armenian population was probably about 2 million, it was based on various figures, McCarthy claims about 1.7 or the entire Ottoman Empire, Toynbee, about 1.8 million for Anatolia. (which makes over 2 million for the Empire). I'll post the 1913 figures for each regions and compare them with McCarrthy if I have time. Also another interesting point, as I mentioned when the Ottoman statistic bureau became more centralised and improved the counting of Muslim population, is some region the Muslim population doubled as a result while the Armenian population didn't much modify. When replacing with 1913 statistic and compare, we realise a jump of population back the the expcted value which is observed with the Muslims (and even lower, which suggest they are not exaggerated figures). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 One other thing, when counting population loss, it is a mistake to calculate it according to the Ottoman Armenian population and only that population. the purge in ''Alexandropol'', or what went in Kars for exemple. A couple of more tens of thousands of victims could be counted from those invasions during the so-called war of independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) When you say, "1,914,620 according to Armenian archival records," is there info on this available? just wondering. Edited November 14, 2007 by HyeFedayis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Domino Too bad I can't read French Do you know anything about French population count of Armenians in Anatolia at 1914? Here take a look Graph Thanks.Looks like revisionist like this one. Bonjour, Pouvez-vous me donner les sources du lien : Graph merci ---------------- can you give me the source of link Graph tanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24avril1915 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Statistiques : http://www.webaram.com/stat_teotig.html#Anchor-Vilayet-23240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Bonjour, Pouvez-vous me donner les sources du lien : Graph merci ---------------- can you give me the source of link Graph tanks . Unfortunately I don't have it either.This fanatic Turk from Turkish forum posted this graph and claimed based on that Armenians were mere 350k before AG! Absurd right? At 1st I just dismissed it as another bogus crap (It is still crap) but upon closer look I added all the numbers and got over 1 million Armenians!Now this jackass claimed 350k! So I just used his bogus material against him. I would like to know where this graph comes from myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Also, the Armenian count in the Empire in 1913 was of 1,914,620 according to Armenian archival records, in some regions in the West McCarthy corrected statistics gave higher figures than those, which shows that they are the most serious figures to date and did also suffer from undercounting. The most interesting with those figures are provided for the Eastern region (where the Ottoman statistics were the weaker), when replacing the corrected figures for the West (replaced by McCarthy), we find even a higher number, (tens of thousands more). When I told you that the Armenian population was probably about 2 million, it was based on various figures, McCarthy claims about 1.7 or the entire Ottoman Empire, Toynbee, about 1.8 million for Anatolia. (which makes over 2 million for the Empire). I'll post the 1913 figures for each regions and compare them with McCarrthy if I have time. Also another interesting point, as I mentioned when the Ottoman statistic bureau became more centralised and improved the counting of Muslim population, is some region the Muslim population doubled as a result while the Armenian population didn't much modify. When replacing with 1913 statistic and compare, we realise a jump of population back the the expcted value which is observed with the Muslims (and even lower, which suggest they are not exaggerated figures). Thanks for the Post. It is interesting that even McCarthy dares not go extreme here...1.7 seems pretty generous coming from a revisionist. Love you man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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