MartyRoss Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 http://www.netarmenie.com/accueil/rassemblement.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 http://www.netarmenie.com/accueil/rassemblement.gif style_images/master/snapback.png merci... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Okay, so why do we care what Europe does to itself?? I say let them accept Turkey good or bad if that's their wet-dream come true. I don't care. Europe is merely a temporary resort for me. If things turn bad with Turkey in it, I can always move out. That simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Europe is merely a temporary resort for me. If things turn bad with Turkey in it, I can always move out. style_images/master/snapback.png Move where Nairi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Indonesia. She likes the food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 http://www.netarmenie.com/accueil/rassemblement.gif A little too late I presume. But we shouldn't worry as they will never be able to become a member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Move where Nairi? style_images/master/snapback.png Glenoaks Canyon in Glendale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 (edited) There's a big world out there. Armenians have succeeded in every corner of the globe (almost every backwater from Madagascar-to Manila-to Maracaibo), as long as they remove themselves from other Armenians. How sad that we have never learned to work together. We only succeed as free agents. Edited September 26, 2004 by America-Hye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Okay, so why do we care what Europe does to itself?? I say let them accept Turkey good or bad if that's their wet-dream come true. I don't care. Europe is merely a temporary resort for me. If things turn bad with Turkey in it, I can always move out. That simple. style_images/master/snapback.png What's up, Nairi? Such stormig-speak easy superficiality is unusual for you. Of course, recognition of the Armenian genocide is a complete non-issue regarding potentual Turkish membership. But there are plenty of very important real issues connected to it. And if you can "move out", there are plenty who cannot, or would not want to. You cannot simple do a Pilate-like washing of your hands on this subject and still retain your credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 It's a non-issue, but I wouldn't be surpised at all if the EU would use this as a last resort to keep the Turks out. You'd bet that we Armenians would jump at the opportunity when this is dished out. Thinking, like always, in our stupefying naiveté that they do it out of their sheer goodwill. <_< And not for once realizing that again we have become the willing dupes who would be put to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 What's up, Nairi? Such stormig-speak easy superficiality is unusual for you. Of course, recognition of the Armenian genocide is a complete non-issue regarding potentual Turkish membership. But there are plenty of very important real issues connected to it. And if you can "move out", there are plenty who cannot, or would not want to. You cannot simple do a Pilate-like washing of your hands on this subject and still retain your credibility. style_images/master/snapback.png Why not, Steve? Isn't non-recognition Pilate like washing of hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 What's up, Nairi? Such stormig-speak easy superficiality is unusual for you. style_images/master/snapback.png Surprise surprise, maybe you just need to re-assess your understanding of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Why not, Steve? Isn't non-recognition Pilate like washing of hands? style_images/master/snapback.png Yes, the washing of hands of a subject that has about the same amount of importance as worrying about whether to pick your nose before blowing it or after blowing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 I really don't understand why Europeans are such racists. Turkey was keeping your asses safe during the Cold War, and now half of Europe is against Turkey's entry into the Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Gamavor, It has NOTHING to do with race. The Greeks are NO problem for the EU. They would welcome Armenia with open arms if she made a few minor changes in internal policies. Present day Turks are primarily Anatolians who are not much different gentically form Greeks or Armenians. The problem is cultural and religious, besides Turkey is not a true democracy, the generals rule EVERYTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Since when Europe is a Christian club? Why you question the culture of the Turks? Don't you know that they brought the coffee to Europe? Don't you know that they invented the binoculars? Don't you know that Turks have been always tolerant of their Christian minorities? How can you question Turkish democracy when she was drafted after the American democracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 "Tongue in cheek," Gamavor? But you are still parroting the Turkish spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyRoss Posted September 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Are some of you still feeling Armenian deep inside your heart and soul ? Because if so...the answer to the question "THIS Turkey should enter European Union ?" is very simple NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Are some of you still feeling Armenian deep inside your heart and soul ? Because if so...the answer to the question "THIS Turkey should enter European Union ?" is very simple NO They are not going take our opinions into consideration when making this decision. So this demonstration is quite superfluous if you ask me. Don't worry Turkey won't enter the EU anyway if we want to or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyRoss Posted September 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 (edited) Fortunately that all Armenians do not think like you ! "Yete ampokhtchniss n'sstink yev tserkerniss dzallenk yev spassenk...g'gardzess aveli lav-e ?" "If the brook does not make any more noise... one knows that there is nothing to draw there" MartyRoss Edited September 27, 2004 by MartyRoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 I saw the light! Turkey needs to be part of Europe. Turkey is European country no matter her dark past. I think it is in Armenia's best interest if Turkey becomes part of EU and I don't think that this issue should be posponed for another 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyRoss Posted September 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 I saw the light! Turkey needs to be part of Europe. Turkey is European country no matter her dark past. I think it is in Armenia's best interest if Turkey becomes part of EU and I don't think that this issue should be posponed for another 15 years. style_images/master/snapback.png Recognition of the Genocide must be a precondition for Turkey's acceptance into the European Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Recognition of the Genocide must be a precondition for Turkey's acceptance into the European Union. style_images/master/snapback.png Says who? (Apart from yourself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyRoss Posted September 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 (edited) http://www.netarmenie.com/accueil/rassemblement.gif Edited September 28, 2004 by MartyRoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Martiros you dont have to demonstrate at all. The French are absolutely adamant in refusing to admit Turkey into the EU. If the opposite were the case then your demonstration would have made sense. The gods have cast their dice a long time ago and mortals like us won't make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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