MosJan Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 can we get a kit for our cars to use CNG or Propane ?? i know in LA Taxi or bus's du use cng or propane have seen some in Armenia ( home made Kits ) to make Niva and Volgas to run on Propane, nice staf 60 L tank on a Carb car ~ $15 can get you up to 425Kl on a volga / if it's a EFI up to ~500kl now since our gas prices are up $2.45 ~ to ~ 2.65 in LA - can i get a kit to work on my car ??? do any of you know the legal staf for this ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted July 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Propane is a by-product of the refining process of natural gas and crude oil. About 3% of a barrel of oil becomes propane. Propane boils at -44 degrees Fahrenheit; when it is vaporized, it becomes a gas again. Because it vaporizes at such a low temperature, it mixes easily with air. Therefore, it doesn't require a high temperature (over 400 degrees Fahrenheit for gasoline) for it to atomize. This improves cold starts, emissions, and driveability. Propane is a stable fuel; it doesn't go bad if you don't use it! Since propane has such a low carbon content, motor oil never gets dirty which increases engine life. The oil does still need to be changed, though not as often. Spark plug life is dramatically extended. Also, you cannot "flood" a propane engine. When a gasoline engine "floods," raw fuel enters the cylinders, washing past the rings and into the oil, also wetting the plugs. Propane carburetion automatically compensates for altitude changes, saving carb re-jetting and computer re-learn. Since propane is under pressure, there are no fuel pumps, no float bowl, or needle and seat. Another plus is the high octane rating of propane between 100 and 110. This means that if you are turbocharging or supercharging, it is the ideal fuel. Propane: Will not go bad Burns clean Requires no maintenance Is easy to install Is very safe Rates at 100-110 octane Automatically compensates for altitude Prolongs engine life Is affordable No wiring except the on/off solenoid. Propane is not harmful to soil or water This is the most reliable fuel system on the market, and all of our kits are made in the good ole U.S.A.! http://www.gotpropane.com/p3.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Propane is a by-product of the refining process of natural gas and crude oil. About 3% of a barrel of oil becomes propane. Propane boils at -44 degrees Fahrenheit; when it is vaporized, it becomes a gas again. Because it vaporizes at such a low temperature, it mixes easily with air. Therefore, it doesn't require a high temperature (over 400 degrees Fahrenheit for gasoline) for it to atomize. This improves cold starts, emissions, and driveability. Propane is a stable fuel; it doesn't go bad if you don't use it! Since propane has such a low carbon content, motor oil never gets dirty which increases engine life. The oil does still need to be changed, though not as often. Spark plug life is dramatically extended. Also, you cannot "flood" a propane engine. When a gasoline engine "floods," raw fuel enters the cylinders, washing past the rings and into the oil, also wetting the plugs. Propane carburetion automatically compensates for altitude changes, saving carb re-jetting and computer re-learn. Since propane is under pressure, there are no fuel pumps, no float bowl, or needle and seat. Another plus is the high octane rating of propane between 100 and 110. This means that if you are turbocharging or supercharging, it is the ideal fuel. Propane: Will not go bad Burns clean Requires no maintenance Is easy to install Is very safe Rates at 100-110 octane Automatically compensates for altitude Prolongs engine life Is affordable No wiring except the on/off solenoid. Propane is not harmful to soil or water This is the most reliable fuel system on the market, and all of our kits are made in the good ole U.S.A.! http://www.gotpropane.com/p3.html I don't think the usage of propane as car fuel is going to save any money. Propane being a by-product of the refining process of natural gas and crude oil, has prices highly correlated to the prices of the latter two. Both crude oil and natural gas prices are rather high, currently. Wholesale propane prices (retail would be much higher) can be checked on a daily basis at www.nymex.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 I knew this guy who lived in San Diego who had converted his truck to run on propane (don't know if it was normally a diesel or gas - but I think the latter). He had a tank in the back...and would cross over into Mexico and fill up. The propane he got was for heating and such and not for auto fuel - so he avoided many taxes and such and it was substansialy cheaper then US prices at the pump (this was in the mid-late 80s)....yeah - memories of some good times...he was a beach life guard in San Diego and always seemed to have the (wild beach) babes hangng around/tagging along etc...some memorable trips to Ensenada and down Baja..yeah baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Mosjan - some list of positives for propane eh? ...I also remember my bud was very concerned to not get rear ended/in an accident...any guesses why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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