15levels Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 What is the connection (if any). Also any info on the Ethiopian alphabeth would be interesting. Thanks in advance for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 There are five Oriental Orthodox Churches, allied with neither Rome nor Constantinople (Istambul). They are the Armenian, Ethiopian/Eritrean, Coptic, Syrian and Malankara (Indian). They are loosely connected and meet annually, but are jurisdictionally individually seperate. some Ethiopian Armenians have intermarried with Ethiopians, and some Armenians were themselves already almost as sev as Sevs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 (edited) Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 What is the connection (if any). Also any info on the Ethiopian alphabeth would be interesting. Thanks in advance for sharing. Yes, there is a actually a connection with the both. Armenian and ethiopian alfhabet as the ethiopian based their alfhabet on the armenian alfhabet. We have had cultural exchange through centuries with the ethopians, with the bringing of christianity to ethiopia ( wich i think the armenians also contributed a lot with ) the exchange between the two countries increased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Vigil, Now I understand why I am no longer considered to be an Armenian. You consider it a priviledge, not a right. If a majority of Armenian elders deem one to be banished from the race, ZAP, they are no longer Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 It amazes me how a single sentence can inspire so much out of some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted May 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Thanks for the replies, everyone. Unfortunately nobody provided me with any factual information. I would really appreciate if someone would post a link or article with facts on how exactly Christianity reach Ethipia from Armenia and on the connection butween the alphabets (assuming such research has been conducted in the past) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 From the AGBU magazine - Armenians in Ethiopia http://www.agbu.org/agbunews/display.asp?A_ID=101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 (edited) Thanks Koko for the link. Well, I guess there are no documented accounts on the subjects, lets hope some day someone will take up this research. Edited May 20, 2004 by 15levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxxsqueen Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Right Vigil.... Armenians just fell out the air. YOU are RIDICULOUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxxsqueen Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Vigil, Have you ever heard about the Holocaust. Did those people dare to face what happened then?????????????????????? you are ridiculous. DO you live in North America?????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxxsqueen Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 15levels here are some sites you can read up on the subject. How do you ask the question,'how did Christianity get from Armenian to Ethiopia?" ... And dont tell me because we were the first nation to adopt Christianity... http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/acet/hd_acet.htm http://www.meridianmagazine.com/ideas/040126ethiopia.html http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encyclopedia/chr...ly/ethorth.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Loxy, Armenians are not the first Christians. Armenia as a nation is the first to officially recognize Christianity as a state (nation) religion. That is why our Church is National. If you look at the link provided by you here: http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encyclopedia/chr...arly/index.html you will notice that all pre-existing Christian denominations were just different Christian sects. Scroll down and you will see Church of Armenia 3/4c. AD. As to your previous post about the Holocaust - I fail to understand the relationship between preserving ones traditions and culture with Holocaust. Do you believe that by being Armenians we are unworthy of something, or do you believe that by being Armenians we are Nazis? Sorry, but I genetically belong to the White race, however I don't want to have anything in common with my "White brothers". Those that have massacred millions of Indians and those that started two devastating World Wars. Nor I want to have anything in common (culturally) with those who befriended our enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxxsqueen Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Um Vigil, I believe you had a comment about ' nobody has dared faced what Armenians have faced' YOu think WE are the only group of peoples who have encountered Genocide.... YOu are ridiculous. And for all of you who talk about 'race' you should do some research on that topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 (edited) to loxxsqueen Every tragic incident in the world history , be it an attemt for genocide or not , calls for recognition or else the victims of that crime can never go on with their lives, and that those who commit the crime cannot be put to justice. The armenian genocide is one case, and its very important to have it recognized at least for all who are armenians or have grandparents who came from "turkey". If we let it go unpunished the same thing will happen over and over again as we see! -Till this day Turkey commits crimes against humanity , and also their close neighbours Azerbadjian.Who is doing anything to stop it? The already ethinically cleansed Naktivjevan. And the world media DARE to say armenians are terrorists. ? In our case a hole nation was almost wiped out and they are tring to do the same with the denial of the armenian genocide today with denying all knowleadge our rich history and culture in anatolia, turkey. Edited May 22, 2004 by koko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 (edited) http://www.livius.org/arl-arz/armenia/armenia_capta.jpg This is the coin that Vigil mentioned. "In short, the Armenians were a primitive nation, and it comes as no surprise that Xenophon mentions that their warriors fought with simple weapons, such as slings and arrows. " This is a quote from the website below. I laugh hard and long after reading this. Just one paragraph above, the author states that Armenia was a rich country and that Armenians were producing beer and wine - all of this 1000 years before Christ. The most laughable part is the name of the author - Jona Lendering. These same Western "Civilized" Europeans, who up until the second half of the 11 c. AD had no Idea to what tribe or nation belong. All they new were the name of their Feudal. http://www.livius.org/arl-arz/armenia/armenia.html Edited May 23, 2004 by gamavor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxxsqueen Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 KOKO, I VERY WELL KNOW OUR HISTORY, I AM AFTER ALL FULL-BLOODED ARMENIAN (FOR VIGIL'S INFORMATION) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 (edited) Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxxsqueen Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 First of all, I WAS TALKING TO KOKO , regarding the opening of your comment, not you. WHen did I say 'there is only one human race. And, you keep proving your ignorance over and over.... have you heard of the holocaust, what happen in the former Yugoslavia, in Rwanda, ... I mean the list goes on. YOu think the Jews are controlling the world do you... And that's why people should think the Armenians are the only one's to have suffered genocide You sound like a paranoid soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 (edited) Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I AM AFTER ALL FULL-BLOODED ARMENIAN Yeah Right! And I'm Robinson Crusoe have you heard of the holocaust, what happen in the former Yugoslavia, in Rwanda, ... I mean the list goes on. YOu think the Jews are controlling the world do you... And that's why people should think the Armenians are the only one's to have suffered genocide Informed opinions are always welcomed Sarcasm Off! Loxy, you sound as a pathetic turk, or Southern Baptist, maybe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 And, you keep proving your ignorance over and over.... have you heard of the holocaust, what happen in the former Yugoslavia, in Rwanda, ... I mean the list goes on. YOu think the Jews are controlling the world do you... And that's why people should think the Armenians are the only one's to have suffered genocide Must we always precipitate to the Genocide? Can we talk about anything otherwise? Ws not the topic of this trhread about the Ethiopian and the Armenian church? How the hell does Genocide fit here? As to Serbs, Rwandans and the Holocaust, THE HELL WITH THEM. Do they talk about us? Are we, by invokking all those other atrocities in a way justifying the Turk? That is if others have and are still doing so can we? In so doing we are falling flat in the Turk's lap. If Spain can persecute and massacre her own citizens, if the Spaniards can masscre and annihilate the Incas..... on and on, blah, blah... so can we? Yugoslavs, Rwandans and those of Holocaust can take care of their own problems, thank you. Let's worry about our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Well said Arpa. Thank you. Everyone - let's stay on topic and cool it with the insults. Discussion is welcome, personal insults are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxxsqueen Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Arpa this discussion is not about us taking care of our problems. IT's about an individual on this post who believes that Armenians have no connection with the rest of civilization, who thinks we are such a UNIQUE "race", (and I laugh when he uses this word), that perhaps Armenians just fell out of the air and came to be. Its about someone who completely dismisses humanity out of his self serving natioanlism; Someone who has the nerve to say how Armenian one is and is not, who has the ABSOLUTE nerve to dictate to others that they have lost the "privelage", (i laugh again at his word usage) to be Armenian. The reason the topic seems diverted is due to this individuals inability to accept that we as Armenians have ties to other parts of the world, that our culture is attributed to the development of others and vica versa. and YES, this includes parts of the world where so called 'sevs' are populated, hence the opening topic of this dicussion... Remeber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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